Preseason polling: what unit disappointed most?
Well, game 1 certainly wasn't all sparkles and fairy dust. There was a lot of ugly and fail out there. I mean really ugly and really fail-y. But what unit stood out as the most disappointing? What facet of the Rams' game are you most worried about after what you saw? What unit needs a complete reversal of course to keep 2010 respectable? As always, the comment section is begging for your explanation.
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3k
I haven’t voted yet (as of this comment).
Why? I just looked over the list, and everything on that list I am concerned with equally. I even tried to look at it from the, “If I had to pick one that could help us be more competitive” standpoint, and still couldn’t pick one.
That is one of the most accurate, depressing lists I have ever seen.
I know it’s early, but spot on.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
For me, it's easily the OTs.
Bradford’s first couple series showed us that if we give him time, he can do a pretty good job of finding receivers and picking the defense apart. However, as we approached half time, the speed rushers had their way with our tackles. We have no hope if we can’t give king Sam some time.
We have talked about taking the best receiver with our #1 pick next draft. What are the chances we find ourselves drafting another OT?
by TransplantedRamsFan on Aug 15, 2010 8:45 AM CDT reply actions
Offensive line
I will give Saffold a pass because it was his first NFL game but the play of Smith was brutal. He has had 2 NFL camps and OTA’s as well 5 starts. You would think that if this line can’t pass block they could at least run block but they could do neither. With the money and high draft choices on this line, I see no sign that they are even close to being average. Bradford took a real pounding and this cannot continue. With high hopes for Ogbonnaya I must say he was a real disappointment as a runner but mainly as a pass blocker. Our wr’s got no separation and were never open. This offense is just a mess.
OT's
First off the line for Bradford (at least in the 2nd quarter, I didn’t get to watch the 3rd but will tonight) was Saffold, Goldberg, Brown, Fraley, Smith (from left to right) the starting line will be Saffold, Bell, Brown, Goldberg, Smith. Bell wasn’t playing due to injury, although i thought the interior 3 didn’t do nearly as bad as the OT’s, but as 2cents said Saffold is a rookie and just got his first taste of NFL game speed, and the only time I saw him get beat was on the speed rush, but after some practice with that and 3 more preseason games he should be able to handle the speed rush. So he can get a pass from the fans, but the coaches should still grill him at practice this week. But, Smith should get that same pass, I know he’s in his 2nd year and was supposed to be our LT and is now playing RT, and got beat the worst, but most of you seem to forget that he broke his toe in mini-camp and just starting taking reps with the team and getting into physical drills in the middle of this past week. I think by next week he’ll be much improved, if he still looks the same then I’ll get worried a little. Right now I’m more disappointed than anything that I didn’t get to see Bradford do work because our O-Line couldn’t protect him, hopefully we’ll get to see more next week.
On a QB note I think Feeley still gets the start at QB in the next game, but if he looks as he did this game (staring down WR’s, 2 passes that should have been pick 6’s) it should be Bradfords team from week 3 of the pre-season on. I think with the poise he showed it will be his team by Week 1 regardless though.
I agree
with 3K. I’ve become tired of saying Sam shouldn’t play a regular season game until th OL can show it can remain healthy. By healthy I also mean that they need to perform like they’re healthy. The other dead horse I can’t stop beating is the lack of back. Why are we still carrying Darby around to fill in for SJ? Somebody please tell me.
I hope this dose of reality wakes somebody up.
Definitely the starting tackles. I'm just glad they still have 4 weeks to improve.
"I turn around and I’ve got Cueto kicking me in the back with his spikes. It’s super unprofessional. I don’t know where he learned how to fight."
-Chris Carpenter commenting on a bench-clearing fight with the Reds, 8/10/10
mixed emotions from this game.
I am going to start with the positives because that is what I do. Long was a stud. He is really coming into his own and I am excited to see him have his breakout season. Laurianatis is holding solid. Larry Grant has come out of nowhere this year and stepped up his game ten fold over last season. Bradford looked good. When he had time he used it well, when he didn’t he played smart, and when he got hit he bounced right back up. I also liked his overall personality through it. He didn’t curl up in a ball close his eyes and wait for a hit like i have become used to seeing. He either ran out of pressure or he tried to run through it before getting rid of the ball in the smartest way possible. He looked like he had some fight in him. Amendola has some rabbit fast moves even though he fumbled. I will give him a pass on that because those are the mistakes I expect to see getting worked out in preseason. AND we took alot less penalties that the vikings… ALOT…. that was a major problem the last few years and I am glad to see us reigning it in.
NOW THE BAD SIDE
The offensive line might as well not have come out and played at all! I have had it up to my limits with excuses for Smith. First it was his rookie season, then concussion, then (and still whining about it ) his toe, now maybe it will be moping about still being right tackle. You were #2 overall last year… .put up or shut up…. the time is now. Saffold stuggled but overall did fine for his first ever NFL debut. However, he and Laurianatis need to sit down and talk because we need him to act like a veteran this year, just like we did James last year. The cornerbacks were horrible. Every big play the Vikings made was from our teams mental errors. I know our corners are injured and this was the lower part of the depth chart but that is not an excuse. If you are being paid to play a game you better get your mental aspects tight…. period. Now my biggest gripe of all. The coaching. The plays were yawnable and predictable. However, my biggest complaint is that they switched out Brown at center while Bradford was in. I don’t care if it is a preseason game and you want someone else well versed at center in case of an injury to Brown. It was Bradfords debut and he already has bookends who are young and raw to worry about. The last thing he needed was pressure coming up the center at well. Part of grooming up a rookie is confidence building and he should have had Brown as a stable he could count on. These are just my opinions but it does feel good to air them after last nights atrocities.
Every thing you mention about the offense is on Shurmur that his job to make it work right
And he failed again in the worst way,cant even shufle the line with out frigging every thing up left Bradford exposed in his first NFL game there is no excuse for that the man is brainless
The OTs are easily my biggest concern. Pass coverage against Sage was terrible (particularly against TE Mills), but unlike the OTs, it wasn’t the Rams’ startering unit, and after a while, not even the second stringers. Same deal with the running backs. More than the WRs, what concerns me in the passing game is the offensive playcalling, but we’ll see, since they could’ve just stuck to vanilla playcalling due to being the first preseason game, and Bradford’s debut.
I said OT's without watching the game yet (have to wait til tonight) but what about the coaching?
I can’t understand why Jason Brown was playing guard. Protecting Bradford and setting him up to succeed has to be the top priority, not trying out players in different spots.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
I voted other, so to meet my moral obligation -
the offensive play calling was horrible. We really didn’t try to throw the ball down the field at all. It was the same old short slants and passes to the flat. You can’t expect your receivers to get open when the defensive backs know they don’t have to worry about deep patterns. They all played up short and had all the short routes blanketed.
My concern with the offensive line was the interior guys. Yes, Smith and Saffold missed a couple of times each, but the Vikings were coming up the middle on almost every play. Our QB would take the snap, start his drop and be smothered by a defensive lineman coming right up the middle almost untouched. There was just no excuse for letting a DT go free up the middle like they did time after time – and this was Minnesota’s 2nd team.
And it’s true the running backs didn’t look good. However, it’s also true that most of the time when they took the handoff there was alreadcy a defensive guy in the backfield waiting for them. They were constantly having to change direction almost before they got started. Our offensive line not only couldn’t pass block, they couldn’t run block either.
I have been trying to maintain a positive outlook for this season, but last night pretty well changed my mind. Without a decent offensive line and good playcalling, we may score fewer points than last year – no matter who plays QB.
Bad line play
Discouraging and to watch. They must improve
If you love something, set it free. If it doesn't come back, find it and kill it.
by gomer7 on Aug 15, 2010 1:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Voted "other" because there was no "all of the above."
And even then you left out idiotic coaching. Save Jackson, JL, Jason Brown and hopefully Sam, this team is rotten to the core. There’s great gulf between our talent level and the rest of the NFL. Those of us that didn’t want Jason Smith are sure getting the last laugh now. Bust!!! Double bust!!! He and Saffold stink up the field. And antique Hank Fraley just makes things worse. That’s some defensive improvement; a Viking team without Favre and Peterson rack up over 400 yards against us. When in Hades are people gonna wake up to the fact that we can’t compete with a team comprised of 80% castoffs, 6-7 rounders, and general underperformers (Chris Long, Avery, Smith, Hall, etc.). Take yourself, Shurmur, and the 80% guys to the UFL Spags ol’ buddy.
Yea
A bad preseason game coming off injury means he’s a bust. I know he did awful last night, but it is too early to call him a bust. And since you seem to be basing everything off of yesterday’s game how come you don’t give any credit to Chris Long. He played great yesterday.
Onubon > Gates
I am sure RamChop places Chris Long in the 20% of good players we have
Carneros look I saw some good players yesterday but so many bad players and plays that the good gets over shadowed ,our 80% are not just bad they are awful to watch ,and you are still defending Smith lol yeah as off now he is a bust one year on the team and has done nothing for us,that’s #2 over all wasted on Smith who was really a tight end,we got rid of Barron and now we get soft head Smith with a bad toe ,this is just too much for any team to over come ,so many bad decisions
Are you saying "still defending Smith"
As is, still defending Smith after that performance yesterday?
Onubon > Gates
I voted other
because I didn’t watch the game. Based on my feelings towards the importance of line play, and the comments from the game, I’m thinking O-line. I do expect improvement from all though. It is 1 game.
picked o-line
because all i kept hearing was that it was supposed to be one of our strengths. i know there are some injuries, but i hope our depth isn’t that bad and that they’ll get it together.
Unleash King Sam #8
Offensive Line
The Rams have been trying to straighten out their problems on the OL for years. If the OL can’t get their act together soon, that means no running game, no passing game and NO WINS. More than likely, their star QB and the top RB won’t make it through the season.
Shurmer has got to go period !!!!! It will be the same ol Rams again if he is in control of the O
If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

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