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My Madden 11 Roster Rating Reactions/NFC West Comparison.


I play Madden obsessively. It's my favorite thing to do in my Birthday month leading up to the NFL season in September (and the beginning of my fall semester). It's kind of a last ditch exercise of freedom. The last 2-3 years, I have been owning noobs online with a team consistently rated in the bottom 3-5 teams in the league, and last place last year. It's safe to say, I'm pretty damn good at the game considering people online use the Colts/Chargers/Saints/Vikings, etc.

 

That said, who wouldn't want a little help in the form of a new Rams' roster? Madden 11, despite rating us lower than anyone once again, is providing exactly that. Some help at last. It still has some issues, but I am generally pleased with the ratings. Here are my thoughts on why people will once again fear me in the virtual pigskin arena, as well as a breakdown on how we compare to the rest of the NFC West.

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  • Worst part: There is no way in hell Chris Long is a 75. He's closer to an 85 in my opinion, because he is at worst our 3rd best defensive player (behind Laurinaitis and Atogwe).   C-longdisappoint_medium

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  • Atogwe's contract situation was up in the air when they formed these. He will be there by the time the game launches in August, and at worst, he'd be there in one of the regular updates/patches EA does. Also, expect him to be rated in the low 90s/high 80s, because Madden is one of the few places OJ gets respect. (ZING!)

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  • VERY pleased with Mardy Gilyard's rating at 70 overall. Many 2nd and 3rd rounders didn't get to sniff the 70 area. Gilyard's catch rating (86!) will make him a very useful slot weapon for me. :D I actually agree with Robinson rated as faster, because Gilyard's strength is acceleration. I do believe Robinson should have been rated higher in catching (75), especially since "catch it with my body" Avery got a 78 in that department.                                                      

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  • I am deeply saddened by the fact that our best receiver is a 75 overall and I might actually think that's too high.
  • How the hell is Brooks Foster rated above Amendola/Burton? Does he have friends at EA? Sorry, but if you sit out a year as an unproven rookie, you do not deserve a rating above people who played and produced. Also, how the hell is Burton faster than Amendola?
  • The Offensive Line ratings are solid. With these ratings, my personal depth chart will have:Jason Smith (83 OVR) at LT, Jacob Bell (85) at LG, Jason Brown (89) at C, Adam Goldberg (76) at RG, and Rodger Saffold (71) at RT. Only bummer? I think Jason Brown deserves a much higher rating. Like, 92-95 range. He is a rock. The only explanation I have for this is that the Offensive Line's overall play last year in the passing game (8th Worst in Sacks Allowed, 3rd Worst in QB Hits) hurt Jason Brown, but 89 isn't the end of the world.
  • Laurinaitis gets love! 85 overall is actually about 3 points better than I thought they'd give him. Not because he doesn't deserve it, but because Madden tends to overlook people. I think he's closer to the 87-90 range, but considering that he plays on the Rams, I'll take 85 in fear of the 80-83 I thought they'd screw him with. Not to mention the very solid 86 Block Shedding rating, 95! in Pursuit, 96! in Play Recognition, 94! in Tackling. YES! (Does fist pump)

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  • As for the rest of the linebackers, I can't remember the last time I had my Sam/Will both rated at or over 70. Thank you Diggs/Carpenter. May your ratings increase as the year moves on. Definitely the best linebacking corps in Madden we've had in a while.
  • Donnie Jones gets his due (94!), Josh Brown gets somewhat of snub (87 when he should be in the low 90s). Can't complain much though, this is still one of the better kicking tandems.
  • If Fred Robbins can play at or above his 80 rating, we're going to be ok. Cliff Ryan is a guy that might make that leap into the 80 range this year. Darrell Scott makes a huge 11 point lift from last year's 53 rating, so we've got some depth going.
  • I like that we don't have any lineman below 60 on either side of the ball for once. I think the Madden team is unintentionally illustrating the toughness that Spags in instilling in this team. I know it isn't the greatest thing, but given how many scrubs we tend to have, it's progress. 
  • Looking at the roster from last year, Bartell and Butler didn't improve or decrease. I think that's the perfect definition of how they played last year. At B- range. Good job on that one Madden.
  • Jerome Murphy(70) is rated almost as high as Tye Hill(71) was at this point last year. Impressive for Jerome, but it brings a bit of sadness to me that I see Hill's name on last year's roster.

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  • Justin King shoots up 10 points from last year's 53 rating. Impressive.
  • We shouldn't complain about Bradley Fletcher's rating. He shot up 5 points despite missing over half of the season. I'll take that given what could have happened (a decrease). Fletcher is probably better than his 68 rating, but it's fair I'd say.
  • S-Jax got screwed. If the ratings for the Vikings show Peterson has a better rating, I will choke someone. I think S-Jax is a 96-97. We'll see. That extra point or two means a lot at the top.

 

So there you have it. Overall, this team is MUCH better this year compared to last year(Madden Wise). Here's a comparison to the rest of the NFC West:

The Overall Rankings have:

 

  1. Arizona Cardinals- 79 Overall
  2. San Fransisco 49ers- 79 Overall
  3. Seattle Seahawks- 75 Overall
  4. St. Louis Rams- 66 Overall

 

We're worst again (thanks a lot, 1-15), but the 13 point gap between the Rams and ARZ/SF is the smallest gap between the top team in a division and the bottom team in a division (tied with the 13 point gap the Cowboys have over the Redskins in the NFC East). Considering the units in this division, it's actually a wide open race if you ask me. Hmm...:D

 

Best QB in the Division....drumroll....:

 

SAM BRADFORD!

His 80 Overall rating puts our 50 Million dollar rookie at #1 in the NFC West before he's played a snap. I like it!

Matt Hasselbeck comes in 2nd with a 79 Overall rating.

Alex Smith is 3rd at 77 Overall.

Matt Leinart comes in a #4 with his 75 rating.

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Well well well. :D This might be Madden only, but I don't think it'll take too long for this to be true on the real turf. Plus, this whole article is on Madden Terms.

 

Runningback Rankings:

  1. Steven Jackson- 95 (DUH)
  2. Frank Gore- 93
  3. Chris Wells- 82
  4. Leon Washington- 80

Another big category win for us. Pretty obvious however.

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Best WR/TE corps by average rating(calculated using top 5 players on each corps):

  1. Arizona- 80.2 AVG
  2. San Fransisco- 78.8 AVG
  3. Seattle- 78.4 AVG
  4. Rams- 71.0 AVG

This one was obvious for the wrong reasons. Damn it all. Arizona drops a little closer to the pack with the loss of Boldin, but Fitzgerald keeps them on top. Crabtree(83) and Davis (96) help the Niners tremendously. Houshmandzadeh(87) and Carlson (84) are the backbone in Seattle, and we've got Donnie Avery and Mardy Gilyard. It could be worse right?

Best Offensive Line By Average Rating (Using Projected Starters):

SF- 82.0, ARZ- 79.2, STL- 80.8, SEA- 79.8

  1. San Fransisco- 82.0
  2. Rams- 80.8
  3. Seattle- 79.8
  4. Arizona- 79.2

The Niners invested heavily in the O-Line with the Iupati and Davis picks, and it shows. Last year we won this category, and Saffold's addition should ensure that we win it in the future. However, Jason Smith didn't make the leap that we would have wanted, and this is why his rating decreased from 84 to 83 this year instead of increasing. An injury free year should ensure that he helps us win again. Okung helped Seattle overcome Arizona, which added Alan Faneca and his 91 rating.

 

Best Defensive Line Unit By Average Rating (Using Projected Starters):

  1. ARZ-85.3
  2. SF-83.3
  3. SEA- 78.3
  4. Rams-77

Arizona's Dockett is the kind of football animal that puts teams over the top. Smith and Franklin anchor San Fran. Both the Cards/Niner's ratings were based on the 3-4 defense they use primarily. Seattle is a little more down to Earth, powered by Mebane and former Trojan Lawrence Jackson (affectionately called Lo-jack). We bring up the rear, but Fred Robbins and Chris Long's sure-to-change-via-update rating will likely improve our ranking at some point.

 

Best Linebacker corps by Average Raing (UPS):

  1. SF- 85
  2. SEA- 84
  3. ARZ-79.5
  4. Rams-76.3

SF wins by virtue of Willis and his ungodly 99 Rating. Seattle might be a little more well rounded with Tatupu and Curry in their 4-3 scheme. Arizona's loss of Dansby (90) hurts, but the wound is assuaged by Joey Porter's 86 rating. We bring up the rear again, but Laurnaitis' sophore 85 beats #4 Overall in 2009's Aaron Curry (83, suck it Hawks!), and this rating is sure to go up. If Bobby Carpenter can find his fit in the 4-3, this unit may be better than its rating.

 

 

Best Defensive Back corps by Average Rating (including Atogwe estimated Rating):

  1. ARZ- 87.3
  2. SEA- 81.8
  3. SF- 81.3
  4. Rams- 80.3

Arizona's got DRC and Adrian Wilson. It's hard to find a better safety/CB tandem. Seattle's Earl Thomas was considered one of the best overall players in the draft, and along with Trufant's 87 rating, he makes the Hawks' solid. San Fran has a group of players in the low 80s, but none under, and they're headed by Nate Clements. We bring up the rear using Atogwe's projected 90 Rating (based on last year's rating). He went as high as 94 in the updates throughout the season after starting the year at 90. I predict they'll give him the same base rating despite the injury. Bartell and Jerome Murphy head the corner spots at 81 and 70 respectively, while James Butler is a solid 80.

 

Best Kicking Unit (Kicker/Punter ratings):

  1. Rams- 90.5
  2. SF- 88
  3. ARZ- 84.5
  4. SEA- 81

 

This one was pretty obvious. Brown and Jones are two of the best in each category. San Fran's got Nedney, and he makes them solid. Arizona added Jay Feely, Seattle is a little lacking. Note to the Rams: KEEP GAMES CLOSE!

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Summary:

Having the best QB/RB in the division, as well as the 2nd Rated O-line makes me happy as a Madden Gamer. It gives me a chance to win against more skilled players when my only disadvantage is roster power. I don't lose often, and when I do it is by a very small margin (3-7 points). It isn't unreasonable to think that the roster might have changed those outcomes. I'm thrilled for this. The biggest addition may very be the addition of Mardy Gilyard. He will be invaluable in the slot, which is one of many go-to plays I need to run when using the Rams. I hope the ratings are updated to fix the Chris Long snub, as well as a few other minor improvements.

 

Madden 11 can't come soon enough, because it means the real deal is right around the corner and I've got a virtual appetizer to hold me down till September. Thanks EA.


GO RAMS!!!

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Three things about the Cardinals ratings I don't like

1. Paris Lennon was either a 62 or a 66 or something in the 60s last year and now that he’s on the Cardinals he is a 72? That’s just stupid. He didn’t improve.
2. Early Doucet is better than all of our receivers? I don’t know about that.
3. Our best TE is tied with their worst TE, and our best TE is Darcy Johnson. That will change rather quickly I think once Hoomanawanui starts playing, and then hopefully it will change more when Fendi starts playing.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 18, 2010 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

my problem is bradfords deep accuracy

he has a 72 like bulger. worse than tebow and kyle orton. same as keith null. everyone knows how pretty his deep ball is, i just dont get it. other than that im pleased with our ratings.

by mh39 on Jul 18, 2010 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

kyle orton

has a better deep ball then big ben apparently… hahaha so don’t feel bad about that. (i saw a steelers fan ranting about that one).

by douchiedude on Jul 19, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

And Fendi Onobun of course.
If you want a pass rushing threat, you can use Hall Davis. He has better physical attributes (at least his ratings do) than Mathais Kiwanuka. Its just his super low awareness and play recognition that makes him almost 20 OVR lower. But speed and strength is all that matter in Madden when you’re playing.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 18, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fendi isn't in our roster :/

He hopefully will be included in the release day update

a good bit of news too, is how good Gilyard’s catch is and how good Amendola’s catch in traffic is

I am a big fan of Burton but he may get cut in my online franchise or be the last placed wr on the roster.

4th down and you go to a 5 wide set Amendola is getting the ball, 80 catch and 82 catch in traffic.
Gibson and Gilyard both have 80+ CIT too.

does anyone have any footage of Sam Bradford throwing the ball in a rams uniform on Madden 11 because I really do hope he has his real throwing style, it’ll make a huge difference online in terms of getting the ball out fast.

by Infemous on Jul 19, 2010 6:19 AM CDT reply actions  

sweeeeeeet

thanks man, i am gonna rip my franchise up. they said their tactic is to kill bradford but i will beat that blitz nicely.
when i made sam on m10 i gave him bulgers or hasselbecks, they were quite close to his style i found :)

this will do though :D

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 19, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

what system you play with

I rock my online franchises with the rams. so excited to use bradford and gilyard. that acceleration is lethal. Madden 11 put way more emphasis into the acceleration stat than before, a 96 acceleration is gonna kill defenses. I still believe they need to up sjax’s speed tho. an 87 is not good for madden. He isnt slow by any means. a 90 speed would be justice in my mind. gore has a 93 and he isnt that much faster.

by mh39 on Jul 22, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually Jackson has a faster 40 time

Gore ran a 4.66, and Jackson ran a 4.45.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 22, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

i play on ps3

and yeah, I am VERY excited about using Mardy, it’ll be nice to have some KR speed aswell.

SJ’s speed is shocking, it was like 89 last year? what a joke… Gore looks faster because he’s smaller, shows how stupid Donny Moore is lol the self proclaimed ‘ratings guru’

i can’t wait to play madden 11 online franchise, last year i was stuck with the broncos and only just got to the superbowl in the league (the final one) while for m11 i got the rams so i don’t have to entirely rebuild just add to the foundations already there :)

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

airshowboat is my psn. we need to get in a franchise together. im gonna start one the day madden comes out but i always go with the rams. sj really needs a speed boost. I didnt even know gore ran such a slow speed at the combine. thats crazy to me..

by mh39 on Jul 22, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

mine is trulyinfemous

thing is, is i want to be rams too lol
can cause an issue, how do you play?

i’m shocked too, SJ is horribly underrated in the speed department, Michael Turner got like 85 too which is a joke he’s called the burner for a reason…

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 22, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

i play a very realistic west coast offense. and a 46 defense. and we may have to join each others franchise so we both could use the rams.

by mh39 on Jul 23, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

ahh you're a straight sim player?

i used to run the bears playbook, but for m11 i will use the rams wco…
i use spags defensive playbook.

well i am in a franchise called afsl right now, and there is like 1 vacancy being the bucs? if you search it and sign up?
and i’d gladly join your franchise if the Lions or Bears are available?

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 23, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

cool, well the site is

http://afslps3.forumotion.com/

just sign up and you can be on the waiting list for a good team

if you link me to your chise i’ll see if i can join?

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 27, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

also avery

i understand he got hurt alot last year. a 67 injury rating is gonna kill me at times when he gets hurt 2 and 3 times a game. and i doubt fendi will make the rams roster at all this year. probably on the practice squad. He has great potential but with 5 tight ends someone has to go probably 2, seeing how fendi has yet to play a snap of football he is def going imo. If i had to pick it would be fendi and bajema.

by mh39 on Jul 19, 2010 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I think we keep Hoomanawanui for sure

Fells most likely
Bajema, Johnson, and Onobun are all up in the air.
I hope Onobun makes it.
August 14th needs to get here. A lot of preseason position battles to watch.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 19, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

why do we think bajema's up in the air?

he was signed for blocking and was suprisingly effective in his limited offensive contributions

Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 21, 2010 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

dont think hell make the team

with fells, and the two draft picks for TE

by strike77 on Jul 21, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

For me I like a TE who can actually play offense and not just block. But if that’s what the coaches want, he’ll make it. Unless Onobun and/or Hoomanawanui prove they can do just as good a job, which I think Hoomanawanui might be able to. So if we can find a guy who can block just as good or even just a tick below Bajema, and play offense, I don’t see a need for Bajema.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 21, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We could carry four

In my roster prediction before I had us carrying all four of those receivers. I guess we’ll have to watch some preseason before we can really decide.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 21, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't see Onobun making roster right away

since he’s the project…. im pretty sure he’s a given for the practice roster, but we’ll see….

Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 21, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

He should be safe too. Who’s going to pick him up and cut somebody else? Nobody.

He’ll safely make the practice squad and maybe he’ll make the roster next year.

I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.

by Midasknight on Jul 21, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i saw someone talking about

the rams ratings in bleacher report. i don’t know how he got it, but atogwe’s rating is 92.

by douchiedude on Jul 19, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

You don't know how he got it?

He ranks #1 in Fumbles forced by safeties in the last 3 years, and #2 in Interceptions.

  1. Overall in Turnovers forced.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Darren Sharper thinks so too. Start at the 3:55 mark. There is no recognition like that of your peers.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d81917ab2/Best-in-the-Biz-safeties

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

" 'So what if I hit the wall?"
(Reporter): 'Why?'
'Because I'll run right through it."

-Kobe Bryant

by TrojanRam on Jul 19, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i saw his 92 on pastapadre.com

on his position rating, something like 4th best safety in the game?

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 19, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

" 'So what if I hit the wall?"
(Reporter): 'Why?'
'Because I'll run right through it."

-Kobe Bryant

by TrojanRam on Jul 19, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

not on madden

fendi will be a game breaker

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 19, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I pray you're right.

In the meantime, Sam better be ready to fit the ball into coke bottle top size openings.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

" 'So what if I hit the wall?"
(Reporter): 'Why?'
'Because I'll run right through it."

-Kobe Bryant

by TrojanRam on Jul 19, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously, fendi will have to have 88+ speed

and his jump will be ridiculous, on madden he will be better than someone like witten lol

thats why the raiders do well in madden, all that speed and size gets you a long way in madden lol

and sam will :D you just have to make sure the wr is open enough to hold onto the ball :D

Bradford to Onobun!

by Infemous on Jul 19, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

He'll probably have to have like a 12 catch rating

to balance out his measurables and make him a 60 overall. So he’ll always be open but he won’t be able to catch the ball.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 19, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

12? That is horrible!

We might as make him a linebacker. I’d say they might hurt his rating in strength/blocking.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

" 'So what if I hit the wall?"
(Reporter): 'Why?'
'Because I'll run right through it."

-Kobe Bryant

by TrojanRam on Jul 20, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

12 was a bit of an exaggeration

I created him in Madden 10 and it wasn’t as hard as I thought it would be. Like 50 in most blocking categories a 70 in all catch ratings and a low awareness and he turned out to be like a 65 overall. They’ll probably try to make him lower than that too, since he’s a 6th round pick who’s played very little football.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 20, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lol, understood.

Yeah, there’s no way they’ll give him a 12 in catch rating. Awareness/route running, blocking, all that stuff is common rating subtraction.

At the same time, in Madden it’s just picking the open guy all the time. Throwing to a guy with a 50 rating that’s wide open is better than throwing a double covered Larry Fitzgerald.

:D

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

" 'So what if I hit the wall?"
(Reporter): 'Why?'
'Because I'll run right through it."

-Kobe Bryant

by TrojanRam on Jul 21, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Totally Agree

I must say this is a well written post my friend for I too am a Madden player. Although I must admit back in the day I sworn off Madden when 2K5 came out then took 3-4 years off since Madden pulled the whole I’m taking the NFL license away from everyone.

Either way I’m pumped about the new Madden especially since they hired 2K developer over a year ago. It’s been enough time now to where he can make some major changes. I’m also excited about the whole coop play that is looking intriguing as well.

by BurnoutJoeB. on Jul 20, 2010 8:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Swagger

You can’t forget the Swagger ratings! The latest and possibly most ridiculous addition to the game. The Swagger ratings, sponsored by Old Spice, determine how much a player celebrates. Now we all know we have a small sample to choose from for them to analyze this “stat” but Donnie Avery is not afraid to do a dance no matter how many points we are down. His swagger rating of 74, way too low.

I’ll be interested to see the Madden roster updates and see the young rookies and other guys not listed like Atogwe and Dockery, and if by some chance we do end up with Owens, what our overall team rating will become. We will see.

by JimmyP55 on Jul 26, 2010 2:46 AM CDT reply actions  

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