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Tevin's Roster Review: Bobby Carpenter

Bobby Carpenter, Recently traded to the Rams can he bring back these glory days?

 

May 10th Bobby Carpenter Former 2006 1st round pick out of Ohio State drafted by the Dallas Cowboys was traded to the Rams for their former 1st round selection Alex Barron which was an interesting trade on both sides with both teams getting criticism, Both of these players were considered disappointments by their teams.

Many fans didn't like this trade on the Ram side, because the Rams traded a starter who played in all but 2 games for a linebacker nicknamed Barbie. I won't say I was happy about the trade because I was hoping that the Rams would also get Tashard Choice because I have a feeling that he will be great, But sadly it wasn't to be and we just ended up with Bobby Carpenter. But anyway it's been a month since this trade now that the shock value has subsided let's get to why this was a good trade.

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First of all he was a horrible fit for the 3-4 system, As I was doing research he was in the top 5 OLBs in his draft class and many scouts thought that he would be a good fit for the 3-4. Bobby Carpenter was fast but he just wasn't physical enough to play unguarded outside linebacker. Let it be know that I got this stuff from watching film listening to what most of the Cowboy fans were saying about Bobby Carpenter and what I read online from "so called scouts" Also the 2 or so games I watched of the Cowboys.

Bobby Carpenter is a finesse player at times which lead to him getting the nick name "Barbie" by Jerry Jones and others in the Cowboy organization. There were times where he could have made the tackle but instead he arm wrapped them and they broke for more yards. Bobby Carpenter also fails to shed blockers and isn't a big hitter, More than likely he lost confidence in  his abilities (I mean your owner calls you soft hard to get over that). He often looked lost on the field and looks like he's a couple steps behind everyone else.

 

 

 

 

I mean I'm sure everyone is thinking Tevin why should I be happy that the Rams have Barbie Carpenter we could have kept Alex Barron for another year, The thinking behind that is solid but lets think about it for a second Alex Barron didn't even sign his one year tender until it was reported that the Cowboys would trade Bobby Carpenter for us. After the season everyone wanted Alex Barron out of St. Louis but when we get solid value for him and a rookie who supposedly has upside fans don't like the deal. I swear if  Rodger Saffold had move to guard and Alex Barron left after this year fans would say why we didn't start Rodger Staffold at right tackle instead of right guard, Since we all know Alex Barron wasn't in our long term plans.

Now  Bobby Carpnter was a great pick up  he fits within the 4 pillars he is a real class and Bobby Carpenter didn't talk about the Cowboys like Alex Barron did to the Rams on the sly. I had to put that because I know most of the fans are tired of hearing about the 4 pillars. It's true though and I would rather have players who don't go to strip clubs to make it rain.

On the football side of things Bobby Carpenter  He does have speed he isn't the quickest but he can get from sideline to sideline in a hurry. In my opinion I think what helped him out in Ohio State is because he had great talent around him so he could make plays I mean we have players who will take pressure from Bobby Carpenter on all levels of the game. First Chris Long then James L, Then our good friend OJ. Although he isn't good at shedding blocks he is a good blitzer and pass rusher in college in the 4-3 I am sure he can be effective back in it.. I think the main reason he was brought to the Rams is the fact that he is good in coverage which is something thst the Rams struggled with last year especially against tight ends. Also it's not like he just stopped playing last season he had good stats for a player who just played special teams and nickel line backer.

Now lets look at his 2009 stats and compare them to everyone on our team thats not James Laurinaitis

 

 Bobby Carpenter        

Season Team
Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G   
GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 Dallas Cowboys 16 2 46 37 9 2.0 -- 1 -- -- 0.0 -- --

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Season Team
Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 Carolina Panthers 14 11 39 33 6 0.0 -- 1 -- -- 0.0 -- --

 


David Vobora

 

Season Team Tackles Interceptions Fumbles
G GS Comb Total Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FF
2009 St. Louis Rams 12 10 46 36 10 0.0 -- 2 -- -- 0.0 -- -- 1

 

 

The two players under Bobby Carpenter were the two starting linebackers before he joined the Rams, As you can see from the chart the stats between those two and Bobby Carpenter are pretty identical besides one stat, Games started is the most telling statistic. Now I will make a bold prediction that Bobby Carpenter will be the 2nd best linebacker on our team this upcoming season barring injury. I mean the facts are right there and then the fact that he will be playing on a 4-3 team with the opportunity to make plays on a defense that didn't make many in the 2009 season, I say that this year we will see a brand new Bobby Carpenter. He may not be an every down linebacker he may be on the sideline for short yardage run plays but we won't know that until training camp and the beginning of the season. At worst we will have a special team player who can be put into the game on passing plays either way if the Rams didn't win this trade then it was at least 50/50. If you read this article and still don't believe in Bobby Carpenter and that's understandable just look at the last few trades our front office has made recently and see how those turned out. This year Bobby Carpenter will become Ken Carpenter and we will never wonder who won the trade ever again.

Lets get em Buckeyes........... oops I mean Rams.


Poll
2010 Bobby Carpenter will be called an?
Pro Bowler
21 votes
Backup linebacker
56 votes
Good starter
225 votes
Barbie Carpenter
32 votes
Solid linebacker
247 votes

581 votes | Poll has closed

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He'll be okay at best.

Hopefully he’ll be good, but I don’t think he’s going to be anything special.

by StopSpe on Jul 1, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

this is my favorite addition of the offseason

i totally believe he was playing out of position and he will have a great comeback season

by Danteslion on Jul 1, 2010 3:53 PM CDT reply actions  

If he plays like Barbie then...

Ken (Flajole) will probably not ask him/her for any more dates ;-)

by RBramfan on Jul 1, 2010 4:07 PM CDT reply actions  

What about OLBs Chris Chamberlain and Larry Grant?

You failed to mention them in your article or do you feel they will not be an active part of our Linebackers corps?

Go Rams!

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on Jul 1, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I was just going by the stats

On the chart I don’t think either had 30 tackles or 30 tackles combined

by Tevin T. Broner on Jul 1, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

vorba

was good last yr. like to see him compete for the job this yr

by strike77 on Jul 1, 2010 7:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Spaggs is a great teacher and motivator

And will upgrade Carpenter`s game.I voted solid line-backer in the poll.

by Thomas W on Jul 1, 2010 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Biggest question mark on the entire team?

I think it’s fair to say we have no idea what Carpenter will provide this year. Sure, we can hope a system change, a change of scenery, a change of damn near everything can reinvigorate his career, but that’s a lot of uncertainty. Still, I’m as eager as anyone to see him in the preseason and start second guessing the Barron deal…

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Jul 1, 2010 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

im nitpicking here but how do you consider this bashing the rams on the sly?
“It’s a different start,” Barron told ESPNDallas.com on Monday after the trade was announced. “I get to see what the other side of the grass looks like.”

come on, seriousy? There is nothing wrong with this statement, I wouldn’t say he bashed the Rams here. Its pretty much a fact that the Rams aren’t going to the playoffs and he was simply saying I get to see what its like to make the playoffs.

no idea how this affects four pillars argument here

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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 2, 2010 2:07 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm so sick of hearing about pillars that I wish Samson or Hercules was around to knowck them down.

I’d rather hear about hard-nosed, badass NFL players myself. Dick Butkus, Conrad Dobbler, Jack Tatum, and Ray Lewis would’ve never met Spag’s 4-pillar criteria.

by RamChop on Jul 2, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carpenter

This kid started for Ohio State so you know he can play. I think he was in the wrong systyem for his skills. We are gonna have a good if not great linebacking crew this year. I am really excited about this upcoming season. At least we are making some good choices and building towards a great future.

Chris

by chrisrmsfn on Jul 2, 2010 1:04 PM CDT reply actions  

2010 Bobby Carpenter will be called an... Barbie Carpenter.

Yep. Sound like proper English to me, but I won’t mention that NONE of your poll options begin with a vowel.

As for Bobby, hopefully the coaching staff saw something they can use and he just needed a change of scenery to get over that three-year-old sophomore slump.

by Boofer on Jul 2, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

The Cowboys would've cut Carpenter long ago if he wasn't miles ahead of our previous starters; Vobora and Lenon.

My guess is he will play better than 1/2 our starters and that’s a big improvement for us at OLB.

by RamChop on Jul 2, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

When I look at his stats for last year

compared with Vobora, they are almost identical. Since this whole article was based on those stats, I don’t see where he is clearly going to be better than Vobora. Maybe he will, I hope he will, but I sure don’t see any facts or data that prove it right now.

by andyrose on Jul 3, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

He only started 2 games, compared to Voboras 12. Then you throw in the fact that Bobby was only put into the games on passing downs and speical teams mostly.

by Tevin T. Broner on Jul 5, 2010 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

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