Hidden Gems
by Midasknight on Jun 22, 2010 12:48 PM CDT
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PrintEvery year, somebody ends up being less relevant than we thought. Be it an injury or being outplayed by a backup and losing their starting job, or maybe they just aren't as good as we thought. Laurent Robinson, Donnie Avery, Jason Smith, Marc Bulger (to a degree, he was already on the slide), Adam Carriker (same) ... Someone always disappoints.
On the other hand, someone else always surprises ... that is to say, they surpass expectations. Maybe they were a rookie without high expectations, maybe they've been a bench warmer their whole career and finally 'got it.' James Laurinaitis, Gary Gibson, Danny Amendola ... they surpassed my expectations. Did I think Animal Jr. would start and play reasonably well? Yes. Did I think he'd play THAT well? No.
So, who's going to be our hidden gem this year? Anyone is fair game, but you have to compare against what's expected. For example, a 1400 yard 8 TD season wouldn't count as a surprise from Steven Jackson. We expect him (body willing) to be our beast.
A 1000 yard season with 6 TD's for Brandon Gibson would qualify. Starting all 16 games with 2500 yards and 20 TD for Bradford would not.
That being said, a 2000 yard 20 TD season from SJax would qualify. Phil Trautwein making the pro bowl at right tackle would qualify. Those are extreme, but hopefully you get my drift.
I'll post some options for a poll but feel free to add someone I missed. I'll leave out the obvious stars for now.
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CJ Ah You
With Brooks Foster, Hall Davis, George Selvie and Bobby Carpenter as honorable mentions in addition to Scott & Uh Oh.
I actually expect Gilyard to perform well so I guess I cannot count him as “hidden gem”.
Bobby Carpenter
Closely followed by Uh Oh & Toston
I voted other
Because I believe Onobun could really do something special if utilized properly. Hooman is my second. I think one of them will be good this year if not both. I’m also hoping that Trautwein never sees the field (unless he’s outperforming others) because that means Smith/Saffold is injured.
John Greco is another.
And I think Bradford starting every game and throwing 20 TD passes would be a pretty big surprise.
And I’ll go Dominique Curry as a big surprise. If he gets 20 receptions that would be a surprise, but he could be important if injuries strike.
Onubon > Gates
Definitely Scott
He’s had flashes in preseason and in games as a DT with good lateral quickness and upfield pressure. Let’s hope he continues to grow in this defense.
Agreed
I have a feeling he is going to find his way to being a solid part of that rotation. The kid has talent and with a year of the defense under his belt, he could be in store to grow significantly.
Is it necessary to bash every individual opinion?
Couldn’t you just make a blanket "Ram’s suck and always will suck unless they hire me to ‘help’ " statement. And if Carriker was still a Ram you would be just as negative about him, but now that he’s gone, he’s a hidden gem.
Onubon > Gates
Just ignore him. He's not interested in the Rams improving. He just wants to hate.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
Dang, you nailed me. I'm a Ram hating, Baptist, KKK, NRA, Nazi Skinhead, Panther, gay-bashing, member of the VFW (very few whites).
Now don’t mistake any of that for sarcasm, Frack! I’ve hated the Rams since I started following the team in 1969 while guys like Gabe, Deacon and Merlin were wearing the horns. I hate them so much that I pay for Direct TV just to watch ’em lose every week. I especially hate Dick Vermeil, Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk and Stephen Jackson. The only Rams I ever liked were Alex Barron, Tye Hill, and my hero Adam Carriker. I love Bill Belichick! You finally got me to break under pressure. @#$% Wherez the Tylenol????
sorry, im def the last to agree with anything ramchop says
but u bashing him just cause he said he disagrees, and he made a good point. just isn’t necessary
Hey guy it was Scott's 1st year in the trenches...
Thus his projection is based on the premise “Did he progress when given the opportunity?” the answer was Yes.
It gave me a glimpse of the player that was so dominant (before his partner in crime got hurt at Clemson).
I will remain optimistic and monitor his play over the next few years.
I voted for Ogbie ...
… because if SJ goes down (and he may very well only play 12 games this year) then Ogbie and Tolston are our backfield tandem … kinda scary but we could do worse. (I am not sure Darby even makes the team).
I think Ogbie is better than his draft position.
… granted, that’s not saying much…
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
If he makes the 53 man roster, he is a possible "gem"
But I think the FO is still in the market for a BU RB so I am thinking he goes back on the PS at the beginning of the year.
is that because you think the Rams will cut him or that some other team will snap him up?
by IrishRamsFan on Jun 23, 2010 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions
i think he showed enough in limited playing time last year to warrant a roster spot. Barring a FA signing or the Rams drafting Unga, I think Darby and Ogbonnaya make the roster with Toston on the practice squad. Remember Ogbonnaya is a 7th rounder – not everyone turns out to be Marcus Colston (sp?). He’s only had a rookie season as the #3 back so I say give him time. The FO wouldn’t have drafted him if they didn’t see something in him. Spags has a pretty good record of getting the most out of mid and late round picks
by IrishRamsFan on Jun 23, 2010 6:33 AM CDT up reply actions
"Remember Ogbonnaya is a 7th rounder"
Precisely. That’s why he shouldn’t be relied on to b/u Jackson. Unfortunately a large portion of our team is comprised of 6-7th rounders and castoffs. That’s why we’re rated 31 or 32 – very little talent. Ya get what ya pay for. Except, of course, in the cases of Marc Bulger, Drew Bennet, Adam Carriker, etc. The hard lessons learned is why Atog is hanging out there twisting in the wind.
i think we're saying pretty much the same thing from different angles
I think Darby will be b/u (i’m not exactly delighted by this and would have liked to see an established FA picked up) and Ogbonnaya will be the #3 RB. As I said above it’s rare that someone picked so low goes on to play at a Pro Bowl level but if Ogbonnaya turn out to be a solid back up over the next 2 or 3 seasons then i think that’s pretty good value for money imo. You make a good point about some of the over-paid busts. This just shows it’s not an exact science. 1st rounders bust every year after getting massive contracts. Look at Haynesworth – the Skins paid him $21m this year and how’d that work out?
by IrishRamsFan on Jun 24, 2010 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe we are close
However, the skins pulled a stupid $$$ deal with Haynesworth similar to what we did with Bulger, Bennett, Carriker, Bell and others. Granted, it didnt work out too good for them. But, now that the Skins have footed most of the bill, I wouldn’t mind having Haynesworth’s big ass plugging up the all-to-frequent gaping holes in our defensive line.
If he was motivated to play and play well
he could really help the Rams (or almost anyone else). I wonder if he will ever really be motivated again now that he has the big bucks.
i agree he’d be a massive upgrade over any DT we’ve got right now but it’s a risk/reward scenario. he could show up and play like he did before he got all the money thrown at him. equally there’s nothing to show that he won’t just come to Rams Park and sit on his ass and whinge either. there’s no way to get him cheap – the Skins will demand either a whole raft of draft picks or a ton of cash in the deal to offset the bonus they paid him. if the Skins recover some cash from him before they trade him then he’s going to demand a new contract before he signs so either way he’s going to cost whoever trades for him alot
all that being said i’d like to see the FO explore the possibility of improving the team whenever and wherever they can. but i would only like to see him here if he’s gonna play to his potential and not disrupt the locker room
by IrishRamsFan on Jun 25, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
mardy gilyard
is a rookie WR which a large adjustment to make, i dont expect much out of him. not to say he wont do well, but he isnt my pick for a sudden success. i voted for scott for the reasons said above, though i really think john greco will take and stabilize the starting guard spot.
עם ישראל חי
Mardy looks like a flee he needs to put on some lbs and muscle
Awfully thin built guy I hope he can hold on to the football and stay healthy should be ok for returns but I don’t see him working his way into the WR line up at least not this year
What are you talking about guy???
Desean Jackson- 5’10, 175 lbs
Mardy Gilyard- 6’0, 187 lbs
How does that make Desean Jackson look like Mr. America?
Seeing how I have seen the guy in person, I would question that 175 lbs.
Point being that young, thin receivers can succeed in this league. I’m not saying that Gilyard will produce like Jackson, but I would welcome it.
Yep, Isaac Bruce was fairly thin as a rookie,
but he could catch the ball and play the game.
I think we would all welcome a D.Jackson type year from Mardy
I only question his durability
i think if sam bradford starts ALL16 games
and throws 20 TD’s that be a surprise.
but this yr i thk chris long will be the hidden gem. he has flied under the after after 2 subpar seasons. big things for long this yr if darrnell scot can help in the middle
I voted other
out of the list above I think Gilyard is the hidden gem. But I think Chris Long is going to have a break out season.
I voted for Uh Oh
simply because the expectations surrounding him (from the fan’s standpoint, anyways) are somewhat low. So maybe I’m voting in hope that he contributes in a way we didn’t see coming. As for Gilyard, I’m expecting him to be a gem, just not the hidden type.
"Now there are three rules that I live by: never get less than twelve hours of sleep; never play cards with a guy who's got the same first name as a city; and never go near a lady who has a tattoo of a dagger on her body. Now you stick to that, and everything else is cream cheese." - Coach Bobby Finstock
I wouldn't call Gilyard a gem unless he starts working his way onto fantasy teams.
… and at this point, I don’t see that this year.
I am sure hopeful that Scott emerges. That would be a HUGE help.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
We can define gem a lot of ways. Hidden too.
I think Gilyard will be more valuable than the fans expect, so if its who is the best player on that list, I might go with Gilyard. I think he’s the only real playmaker on the list.
by CoachConnors on Jun 22, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That may very well be true. I sure hope so.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on Jun 22, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
One good thing we've seen in him
He really showed up when his team needed him to in college. Threw down big plays when big plays were needed. If he can do that on this level he will get people’s attention, even if his overall stats are not crazy good.
His draft position is high enough that I thought maybe he doesn’t qualify for ‘hidden’. But that also means his potential to be called a bust is higher too. He’s the one guy in this draft that I think is an exciting prospect though, draft spot aside.
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Yea I skipped every one on that list too RamChop
If I had to pick a rookie from the drafted players I would have to go with my gut feeling and go with the new rookie CB hoping he turns out like Fletcher
hey 210 buddy...
Did ya notice that all our conversation about a certain like-minded thinker on TST who got banned was carefully edited out of my last post. And, at least 20 other comments suddenly disappeared. Unless you have blind faith in the current FO and Spags and are willing to cheer even an 0-16 team, you’re persona non grata around here. None of the “controllers” wants dissenting opinion. So unless we’re gonna cheer the likes of Fraley, Dockery, Null, Hovan, Feeley, Robbins, Diggs, Shurmur, etc., we could be dropped at anytime. Anyway, nice knowin’ ya.
Speaking only for myself ... it isn't your opinions, it is your delivery and constant negativity.
We are all tired of them losing but most of us try to stay positive. The sweetness of positive tastes better than the bitterness of negativity.
… and considering I can’t actually change anything about how the Rams are run, I choose to be positive.
Call me a dreamer…
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on Jun 22, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude - seriously...
You are like a rebel without a cause – like no cause at all.
If by now you don’t understand that it is not your message but the delivery of your message – then you will never get it (I guess I have my answer on that already though). Not everyone here are your so-called pollyannas but you even turn most of those posters off with the incessant banging of the negativity drum.
Wait….Our D-Line sucks?!? I never would have known if it wasn’t for you posting that 1000 times already – thank heaven we have edchop to enlighten us.
Are you really Skip Bayless moonlighting on TST? You know a pot stirrer just for the sake of it. Cept he does it for ratings – you just do it because….well like I said to start this rant…..
I should be working right now...
No, I'm really the ghost of Howard Cosell.
Ya see, I write what I think and feel, not what I hope or dream about. While I am often critical of the Rams management and the recent efforts of our players, unlike the Sports Talking heads, I actually want STL to become a competitor again instead of a laughing stock. But I can’t find much solace in this years draft choices, except Sam. And, I think our FA pickups are second rate. If people call that approach negative, it don’t bug me. What does bug me is losing. And what’s funny is that while the Rams haven’t picked up anybody of note in FA for the upcoming season, they have unloaded a pile of guys that I’ve advocated dumping for months. Examples include Bulger, Boller, Little, Barron, McMichael, Carriker, etc. And, ther’ll be more to come that will surprise some people.
Kyle Boller?
You’re really complaining about a backup QB? He was a former first rounder and was worth a shot. He was never really even supposed to play. When you don’t have a starting QB, I’m guessing you don’t have a backup either.
And Leonard Little? Did we have anyone better at the position? He still finished top 15 in the league in sacks. And being in the top 10 was only 2 sacks away. And 3 sacks away were guys like Julius Peppers, a man you wanted us to sign for big bucks until he was 36 years old, and becomes exactly like Leonard Little. So what do you do in 2015 when you have big bucks invested in a 35 year old Peppers, all the players you traded for are now 32 or older and you haven’t used a draft pick in years. Sounds like you’re back here. Our FO is building this team for the long haul. That means investing in young players that will help for years down the line, instead of wasting our draft picks on players who will only be around for 1-4 years. You could make a .500 team. But that team would not make the playoffs and would go for less than 5 wins a year or two in the future. You have no idea what you’re talking about 80% of the time. You just say dump him, dump him, dump him. Well that’s nice, you can tell when players are playing bad. The rest of us can too. It is a rebuilding process and the only thing you can do is be patient, yet you insist on trying to ruin our future even more by trading away our draft picks which could be used to get a #1 WR, and a pass rushing DE. And unlike the people we trade for, they will be 21 or 22 and can play for us for 6+ years, and from year 3 on that player is entering or is in their prime. I guess that doesn’t make as much sense as paying for or trading for players who are already past their prime or in the tail end of it. And how do you not understand the free agency this year? There were no FAs worth getting. Why waste your money on old players when you can just wait a year and spend it on younger players entering their prime. You have no concept of managing a team logically. Have there been times when I disagreed with a signing or the lack of a signing, yes? But I can see the sense in it, instead of saying that they should just sign everyone I want, no matter what the cost. You realize FAs have to agree to sign with us right? No players in this years FA class probably wanted to. They are entering there last 1-3 years of good football, they want to go somewhere that they think they can win right away. Do you think Julius Peppers wanted to come here? No. I’m not finding a good stopping point for this rant so I’ll just end it here.
Onubon > Gates
Happy to hear there's someone paying attention
I’ve been away for a while and coming back and hearing that some thougthful moderation is happening is nice ot hear. Thank you!
Begin hatefest now.
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
uh huh. At the rate things are going here, soon there'll be more moderators than fans.
Why don’t some of you “authors” try writing a post that gets over a 100 responses?
100 responses? You mean comment all up and down, picking fights?
100 responses is not nearly as valuable as you think, and even less so when so much of it is artificial, and hateful.
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Gee Mr. know it all i wish i knew every thing like you must feel good to be like you
from all the members here you especially make me sick and you not even a real Rams fan with your Raiders season tickets banning real Rams fans from a RAMS BLOG
Well if I could fly to St. Louis I would have Rams season tickets
And yes, it certainly does feel good to be me!
: )
It doesn’t feel good to be you? Maybe we’re on to something here.
Just kiddin! I’ll stop replying to you now
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
your little jokes for dust in the eyes wont work with me
the cats out of the bag we know what your about now and lets get one thing straight this is not your room ,its for every Rams fan
coach connors you are the only one hateful and banning real fans here
you should stay on your vacation permanently it was a blessing while you were gone.What did you think cause you deleted the posts we wont find out what was said ,that’s why you were so insulted when Ram-on compared the FO of the Rams to crooked politicians ,cause you are more crooked then them lol erasing posts to make you look good you are really pathetic and should not be allowed here as a moderator
I didn't delete those posts
Someone else did. Think about it.
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
You relax buddy. 210 is exactly right.
I didn’t know the Coach wizard was a season ticket holder for the Raiders???? Why aren’t you home watching the Rams on Direct TV? I think 210 just exposed you.
Just keep on thinking that way Coach. I know it kills you all when people are interested in what guys like me have to say.
So, I’ll be waiting for you authors to take on the challenge to write something that people actually read and respond too. Even though there’s a lot of sympathizers on here, most people like real fb type arguments. I’ve surely pointed out my opinions about our FO, coaches, roster, drafts, acquistions, etc. I am also a bit of a Ram historian (ya know, prior to the 1990s) so I have higher expectations than most fans for the team wearing the horns. So let’s hear your take on our coaches, drafts, FA acquistions, status of our defensive line, Jacksons health, Atogwe, or anything about the Rams to lay out where we disagree.
RamChop let me tell you how many posts get edited out here i know that from our buddy Ram-on
When Ram-on was arguing with Mr. know it all CoachConnors Ram-on had copy and pasted every thing posted by both of them the next day every thing that showed what an ass Connors was suddenly was gone ha ha ha,That’s why I told you he told me the hole story and it was actually very funny This room is a joke and I throw the hole blame on the FO ha ha ha.Let them Ban every one and that way they can all agree on every thing they have to say lmao.IF Coach Connors band me i would get 10 of my friends to all join and every one of them would make nothing but negetive posts specialy about him LMAO but Ram-on has more class then me lol im not as kind as him
I am not Ram-on but i know him and i read every thing posted by him and Connors
the next day all evidence was deleted and only posts left on were those making Conners look like a champ ha ha ha you guys love playing with a staked deck well things about to change here like it or not,I know Ram-on for 10 years and he’s been a Rams fan since 1967 He is more fan then this hole room put together so don’t even bring him up
Wow dude...
You need to sit back and relax a lil’. You need to read your posts again. Starting to sound like a teenager.
by crashoveride01 on Jun 23, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
run over..??
by who? You? With the mentality and maturity of a 16 year-old. Good Luck! I think you misunderstand the point of the site. Supposed to be for Ram fans not punks trying to start crap.
by crashoveride01 on Jun 24, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I do know what this is about...
If you guys don’t like what is being done, stop using the site. Bottom line.
by crashoveride01 on Jun 24, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
The same thing has happened to me. Typically after a disagreement with Connors or TackleBox.
btw, I’ve been a Rams fan since ’69.
haha oh believe you me I get it
like either of those two will ever be good haha
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 26, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
GEORGE to the SELVIE.
block! building kick! exploooooooosion!
by mooseknuckles41 on Jun 22, 2010 9:57 PM CDT reply actions
Amendola LoL
hidden gem? exceeded expectations? dude would not be able to make any other roster in the NFL. He’s not that good, but we were so weak at WR that he got his chance……Besides the man-crush VTRamsfan has on him, he’s pretty worthless…….forget about gems, how about Long, Bartell, J Smith (Mr Injury), Avery, and others playing up to their potential? RAMCHOP dont listen to the haters, you keep giving your opinions on the Rams, these guys are robots who think every move the Rams make is the best move. P.S. can you at least tell us where you buried edjpr’s body?
I Guess It Won't Be Locker In 2011
Consider what Amendola did
Amendola wasn’t drafted, so what were expectations for him?
He ranked #6 among all rookies in passes caught, basically on the 2nd tier of all rookie WR/TE’s, and had a couple of very respectable/exciting returns.
Let’s be fair. What do we need from our rookies before they qualify as exceeding expectations? Did anyone think he would be 6th among all rooks in catches?
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
+1000000000000000000
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
#6 in the ENTIRE league in punt return average
and last I checked, we had a piss poor special teams unit as far as blocking..
(although they did score the winning TD on our only win of the year lol)
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
and by the way
I don’t give a S$%& who said that about AMENDOLA… they would have gotten +10000000000 as well :-)
Honestly, I respect everyone’s opinion on here.. yes ed too.. I may disagree with some things he says but honestly, sometimes I need a good dose of “potential” reality.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
no your brownie points did not come from what you said about Amendola
you get the points for siding with Connors
I understand that
But I was saying I don’t care who said it, I would have gave them the same +100000000.. GO DANNY
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
VT, did you know...
…that Danny Amendola apparently set Rams franchise records in Total Return Yards and Kick Return Yards last season? I didn’t even know that until today when I saw it on that other site.
Undrafted, and the Rams FO signed him away from another team’s practice squad…..they virtually stole him from the Eagles. After this year he will be an exclusive rights FA, so no one can steal him away, either.
All things considered, I have to put that in the + column for the Rams FO.
And it makes me think he’d have to get seriously hurt to somehow not be on the Rams active roster on opening day.
by CoachConnors on Jun 25, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
wow no i didn't know that
even better than tony horne and “ah, Ah, AHZ hakim!”??
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
If he caught it clean, he was a heck of a returner.
But his muffs were bad enough even my wife would sit there during every punt saying “Just catch the ball, just catch the ball”.
Not to put too much of a negative spin on this stat but..
We did receive more Kick Offs than most Rams teams in the past this past year due to us giving up 52 TD’s and 19 FGs :-(
He did have a decent average of 24.5 for 66 returns (according ProFootballFocus) so I would give him credit for that.
As bad as we were last year, I guess any positve record should be taken as good news ;-)
yep, and total return yards includes his returns of opponents punts to us
I don’t think it was a record for TD’s given up. (was it? I don’t know)
Pretty respectable ability for an undrafted rook. If Gilyard can take over returning punts immediately, they might be able to field a dangerous special teams. At this point I’ll take any advantage they can muster.
by CoachConnors on Jun 25, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
But punt returns gain about half as much yards on average
Most punt returns don’t go for more than a few yards. Hakim averaged 10.7 yards per punt return for his career, and TDs largely affect the average because one TD equals 7 or 8 average punt returns, at least for Hakim. Amendola averaged 24.5 yards a kick return. So if every kick return=2 punt returns you have to figure Amendola had the advantage. Since he had the equivelant of 163 punt returns using that logic. I’m not saying he’s not a good returner, because he is a good returner, but the record could be largely affected by the number
Onubon > Gates
Amendola clearly did a nice job
returning kicks last year. It was refreshing to see us start around midfield once in a while instead of always starting inside our 20. It also probably says we actually had some people making decent blocks on our return teams, which is something we haven’t had for several years. The only thing Amendola was lacking was the speed to take it all the way when he got open. He always got caught from behind pretty quickly. If Gilyard can get the same results getting through the blocks, and is just enough faster to not get caught, we could actually see a return TD one of these years. How nice would that be?
Totally agree
Monster vision, just a step slow on the burst.. but hey, he did a hell of a job. I really think he could shine this year in the slow, utilized properly with Sam (and NOT have 10 in the box)
Let’s face it, all last year our west coast sucked because of a stacked box.. short passes were next to ipossible.. plus we were NOT going deep and stretchng the field.
Hoping things will be different this year in that regard.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
I'd think they would
If we are indeed running the Eagles offense. Avery is a good deep threat and we now have a QB who can throw the deep ball. Robinson may be a deep threat as well although I didn’t see enough last year to know for sure.
Onubon > Gates
No I do not think it was a record for TD's given up..
There were some bad Rams teams in the past also.
I do think the 66 KR’s set a team season record though as most of our Kick Returns seemed to be split between players. BTW total KR for 2009 was 76.
On the Punt Return side he returned 31 for and average of 11.6 per return so that too is a very respectable return rate.
The combined returns of 97 could also be a team season record as mentioned most of the returns in the past have been split duty and not a single return man.
If he just had the speed to out run defenders, he probably would/could of had a TD or 2 as he had a couple of 50+ KR’s and a couple of 30+ PR’s
I think this is the first year in a while we haven't split returning duties.
Last year it was split almost exactly in half
Onubon > Gates
JordansDad its hard when you have CoachConnors banning real fans from this room
and deleting the posts so as to prevent us from knowing what happened ,this guy CoachConnors is acting like a criminal on this blog and should not be having the power to Ban members from posting just cause they dont agree with his opinion or chalenge his know it all statements
Cmon now
Ram-On got banned because he made blatant threats to CoachConnors, not because he was negative or overly critical. No one minds negativity (or at least they shouldn’t), what I mind is being disrespectful. Refering to other commenters as delusional, blind, or criminal is just not appropriate for a site about uniting fans in discussion.
I’m all for you making comments about the mistakes made by the FO, but cmon, we don’t need to attack other guys to get your point across. It’s not effective, it’s rude, it’s petty, and it just isn’t fun. Maybe we can stop with the attacks now and love thy neighbor. I’ma go hug a tree. Peace and Love everyone :)
Julio Jones for Rams 2011
lol kinzav29 no Ram-on got Band cause he punked CoachConnors
not for making a blatant threat as you stated, thats why every thing was deleted so you wont know what happend
I'm with you kinzav29
Leadership means going first where you would have others go, operative word being "first." I’m on board with the love!
by CoachConnors on Jun 23, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
OK i'll bite
What’s STS? last i checked this was Turf Show Times or TST
by Stonedtodeath on Jun 23, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Def gilyard
"Twin-headed infinite swirling vortex of grotesque suckitude known as Tony Clark and Eric Byrnes"
Other
I voted other coz I think the hidden gem on the Rams next year will be the rookie CB Murphy. He fits the physical press-style mould that Spags wants for this system and could see alot of playing time if Fletcher gets hurt. I think he can beat out Butler and Dockery. I’m not saying he’s gonna be a superstar shutdown CB, just that I think he’ll outperform all expectations of him
phhhhhhhh
were’s the rams talk. i come home from work after listen to this crap all day long and its here on my favorite rams site too. errrrrrr
Gotta be by simply getting rid of Barron, McMichael, Lenon, Little, etc. and acquiring Bradford, Saffold, Milyard.
I’m willing to give Carpenter the benefit of the doubt till he proves me wrong. JL’s gotta be happier with him and Diggs to his right and left. A lot of guys that automatically expected to lose every game have been jettisoned the past two years. Now if we can just keep Jason Smith’s brain from getting rattled. He’s such an important player at LT. Heaven knows we need one more stud on the offensive line.
the MLB is the highest tackler on lots of teams...
…but the problem is that too few of JL’s tackles were for a loss. We need the DT’s eat up blockers to allow the LB’s to fill and make the plays in the backfield. I like the way the D line is progressing and I think we’ll see alot more from our LB’s next season if the DT’s can step up
by IrishRamsFan on Jun 29, 2010 5:33 AM CDT up reply actions
its hard to tackle for a loss
when the running back is at the line of scrimmage within seconds… the defensive tackles allowed the running backs to get to the line so fast, i can’t imagine JL even had a shot
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 30, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
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