Early mockery pt. 2 - finding the wreck before we even get on the road
In part 1 (link), I went back to my first 2010 mock to see what wrong and find any clues that could help identify which picks from my first 2011 mock are destined to turn into punchlines.
First, I've got a grading system I'll throw out which is, of course, subject to as much criticism as y'all can muster. Any player that fits the following categories will get a, let's say, flag:
-) Low Position Depth: LPD (If a prospect plays at a position in which they are very few elite prospects, the likelihood is that teams won't go after many prospects at that position despite a team need. Examples would include Buffalo at QB or the Giants at MLB this year)
-) Conventional Wisdom Trap: CW (Easy to understand, difficult to identify where the CW is wrong)
-) Big Program: BP (A productive player at an important position on a successful team does not translate to automatic prospect value)
-) Unit Strength: US (Often, you'll see two or three players from the same unit at the same school talked of as real prospects. The truth that gets overlooked is that in that unit, there is one player who makes everyone else better or takes the focus from the opposition freeing up his unitmates to make bigger plays. Think of it like this - Ndamukong Suh was so dominant, he drew focus from opposing offensive lines. That allowed other defensive linemen to make plays they otherwise would not have been able to were Suh not so good. Were those other linemen to be judged, many would look at their production or their battles in a vacuum instead of gauging the role Suh played which allowed them to be so effective. Of course this applies to quarterbacks who have a great line and WRs or RBs with a great passing game and offensive line, etc.)
-) Prioritized Intangibles Position: PIP (You can't teach size, speed, arm length, etc. Some positions place a premium on those tangibles, others prioritize intagibles like vision, composure and intelligence. It's a hell of a lot harder to gauge how well someone will adjust to the game at different levels over a mult-year span than it is to time them over 40 yards.)
This doesn't have to be a final evaluation. I would love to get some feedback and implement it into the 2.0 mock, so if you have any input, put in. Let's just take a look at the first round after the jump.
Key: LPD - low position depth, CW - conventional wisdom, BP - big program, US - unit strength, PIP - prioritized intangible position
1.) Andrew Luck: QB, Stanford (CW, PIP)
2.) Jake Locker: QB, Washington (CW, PIP)
3.) A.J. Green: WR, Georgia (CW)
4.) Julio Jones: WR, Alabama (CW, BP, US)
5.) Adrian Clayborn: DE, Iowa (US)
6.) Marvin Austin: DT, N. Carolina (LPD, US)
7.) Robert Quinn: DE, N. Carolina (US, CW)
8.) Patrick Peterson: CB, LSU (LPD, CW, BP, PIP)
9.) Anthony Castonzo: OT, Boston College (LPD, CW, PIP)
10.) Gabe Carimi: OT, Wisconsin (LPD, CW, PIP)
11.) Prince Amukamara: CB, Nebraska (LPD, PIP)
12.) Sam Acho: DE, Texas (BP)
13.) Jurrell Casey: DT, USC (LPD, CW, BP, US)
14.) Michael Floyd: WR, Notre Dame (CW)
15.) Von Miller: DE/OLB, Texas A&M (CW)
16.) Quan Sturdivant: MLB, N. Carolina (LPD, CW, US, PIP)
17.) DeAndre McDaniel: SS, Clemson (LPD, US)
18.) Nick Foles: QB, Arizona (PIP)
19.) Cameron Heyward: DT/DE, Ohio St. (CW, BP)
20.) Chris Galippo: MLB, USC (LPD, BP, PIP)
21.) Ryan Mallett: QB, Arkansas (CW, PIP)
22.) Jonathan Baldwin: WR, Pitt (CW)
23.) Allen Bailey: DT/DE, Miami (CW, BP)
24.) Greg Romeus: DE, Pitt (CW)
25.) Jarvis Jenkins: DT, Clemson (LPD)
26.) Jared Crick: DT, Nebraska (LPD)
27.) Joseph Barksdale: OT, LSU (LPD, BP, PIP)
28.) Rodney Hudson: G, Florida St. (LPD)
29.) Bruce Carter: OLB, N. Carolina (LPD, US)
30.) Evan Royster: RB, Penn St. (LPD, BP)
31.) Ras-I Dowling: CB, Virginia (LPD, PIP)
32.) Travis Lewis: OLB, Oklahoma (LPD, CW, BP, US)
Of course now that I've gone through it, this is obviously a horrible system to help gauge which are the best candidates for bust-osity. These flags are entirely subjective to opinion, and I'm not entirely sure they really identify which prospects will fall, but maybe those with similarities to other prospects who have seen their prospects drop over the course of their pre-draft season.
The only two with four flags are Quan Sturdivant and Travis Lewis, two great LB prospects.
There are five prospects with three flags: Julio Jones (WR), Anthony Castonzo (OT), Gabe Carimi (OT), Chris Galippo (MLB) and Joseph Barksdale (OT). So out of the 4- and 3-flaggers, you've got 3 LBs, 3 OTs and a WR. No QBs, no RBs, no D-linemen - I'm not sold.
What am I missing here? Are there any names you think are bound to fall off of the cliff this season?
Well, I think that's going to do it for my immediate draftiness. I'll be keeping an eye on developments in the college football world and, obviously, all things Ram, but I'm going to start bearing down on a super secret TST project that is guaranteed to eclipse anything you've ever seen in any aspect since your birth. Just trying to set the bar low.
Holler.
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I don't get PIP or CW as a flag. Maybe I need to finish my coffee first.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
I'm not sure if underclassman are being considered here,
but Blaine Gabbert has all the tools needed to be an a great NFL player. He has good height, strength, arm strength, and accuracy. If he comes out this year at MU and has an amazing year, it’s expected that he’ll go to the NFL. I’m not saying he should be included in this mock, I’m just saying to keep an eye on him.
I've got him as a 3rd/4th rounder right now
But yes, he has some great tangibles.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on May 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Jared Crick needs to have
US next to his name. Playing next to Suh, sure as hell made his life easier this last year. Because of it he was very productive. I will be keeping an eye on the guy this year, due to Suh saying that he will do better than he did this last year….nice compliment Suh, but I don’t know if that is realistic for the guy.
I remember that Ron Brace looked really good playing next to Raji, and it skyrocketed his stock (1st round to NE), I would have liked to watch him by himself with no Raji soaking up O-line attention. He was still a consistent All-ACC player, but it makes you wonder.
You think the D-line's a unit strength
this year? It certainly was last year, but I have my questions about the Husker’s D-line (especially off the edge) in 2010
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on May 26, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
How did I miss that?
Good call. I’d be shocked if Peterson flames out; he looked great last year and I expect him to be the best CB prospect in a long time. Casey, well, I could see him dropping.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on May 26, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions

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