Can the Rams win 4 games in 2010?
by Ryan Van Bibber on May 13, 2010 9:14 AM CDT
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PrintIt's way too early to start thinking about how many games the St. Louis Rams will win in 2010, way, way ,way too early. So, let's jump right in and try to predict how many games the Rams will win this season.
In a post yesterday, Mike Sando revealed NFC West projections from AccuScore, whose magic odds making genies gave the Rams a prediction of 4.1 wins, in a division without Kurt Warner.
4 wins isn't a lot, but if you think about it, that's a 300 percent increase over last year's win total, though I wouldn't put a lot of faith in my math.
Is 4 wins too generous, not generous enough? The Rams don't have as tough a schedule as last year, but the cellar teams they play - Detroit and Tampa for example - have all made promising strides over the last two seasons.
A big part of the equation is how you see Sam Bradford's immediate future. Does he step in and have a Matt Ryan impact or does he struggle in his rookie season? To me, the Rams success hinges on how effectively they can score points this season. I think the defense will be adequate enough to keep them competitive (but still not a legit playoff team), but they'll need to be able to count on the offense this season.
So I ask you Rams fans, how many wins do you foresee in the team's 2010 season?
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5-6 wins?!!!!
Those of you who picked 5-6 wins, just how will the Rams win 5-6 games? Our lone win last year came because our kicker threw a perfect touchdown past to our tight end!
Granted, we have no idea if Sam will be good or not this year… and truthfully, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has a terrible first year like Peyton Manning did!
I personally see 1-2 wins… but could easily see us sneaking out 3-4 wins… but 5-6? really?
Seattle and San Fran seem to be getting their sh*t together… I’m thinking Arizona could be a win for us since they’ve lost so many good players. Other than that, the other loser teams are 1 step ahead of us getting it together… Detroit and Tampa… both have QB’s who now have a good year of experience under their belts… and Detroit will now be watching our kicking team for anything fishy! Perhaps we could beat Kansas City but that depends on how KC feels that week. You would think Oakland could be a win… but they got rid of the one player holding them back… I just don’t see more than 2 possible wins for us at the moment.
I picked 5-6
I don’t know. I’m an optimist. It’s a pretty fair league. You don’t see teams when 1-2 games year after year. The teams on top are cyclical. A few plays here are there and we win a couple more games last year. That’s the way the ball bounces. Anyone can beat anyone. One of our near victories came against the Saints.
Like I said, I’m an optimist.
I'm a homer....
but also had season tickets from 1999 until 2009… i’ve seen the greatest show on turf in person! that’s when I was a homer!!!! now… I’m just a closet homer… but still have the jersey to prove it.
the Rams are better
They are very much upgraded from last year, especially if Bradford does well (He should play at least half the season I think). However, for a franchise that has won 6 games in the past 3 years (ouch) a 5-6 win season does seem very optimistic. A 4-win season would be a roaring success to me, but I want as many wins as we can get!
by forza STLrams on May 13, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions
So You Mean To Tell Me.......
Feely will be our opening day starter? I’m gonna change my pick to 0 wins…………he either starts day one or its a waste of money……..Ryan, Stafford, Manning v1 and v2 started day one………throw him in there and let the kid learn OTJ
Jake Locker in 2011
I think Feely will be the opener...
…for at least half the season. Bradford will get snaps but i hope he is eased into the role of starter. The OL needs to prove it can keep a QB upright, our WR’s have alot to prove and the running game might be shaky if SJax is hampered by his back.
As for the QB’s you list above: Manning v1 had a terrible rookie season, Stafford ended up on IR, Ryan had some decent offensive weapons to lean on, Manning v2 had a monster running game and (arguably) the league’s best defense to lean on. Which of those situations resemble Bradford’s? I would hope for him to turn out like Ryan but there’s huge potential to end up like Stafford or P Manning if he’s thrown in to start week 1. The Rams just sunk a massive amount of cash into Bradford and it would be crazy not to protect the investment. The only way he starts is if the OL and WR’s look better in preseason than they did all last year imo
by IrishRamsFan on May 14, 2010 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Warner started ahead of Manning v2 for a few games
I should be working right now...
LOL @
“Our lone win last year came because our kicker threw a perfect touchdown past to our tight end!”
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
+1
And that’s what people just don’t understand. Our record was not the worst ever but, being in the worst division in pro football we may very well have been the worst team in NFL history. The Lions went 0-16 in one of the strongest divisions.
WAR KICKER PASSES!
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
if this was soccer the Rams would have been demoted to the minor league in 2009
But we are a better team this year and i dont think we will need the kicker to throw the touchdowns for us lol
Go Rams
i wonder if he thinks
its “past” and not “pass”…….and all these years he’s been saying “what a great past” to his friends
Jake Locker in 2011
I voted 3-4
But you just never know. We could easily go 0-16 or 8-8. Based on the talent we have (or lack of it in certain areas) 3 to 4 wins would represent improvement. Everyone writes us against the better teams but one of our closest games last year was against the superbowl champs. Who knows what is going to happen any given sunday? I mean who had the browns beating the steelers last year?
The game against New Orleans....
don’t kid yourself too much about that game… that was more about them lowering to our standards instead of us raising to their level. They were coming in with a no-loss season and they basically let their guard down. I remember Demarco Farr calling that one a possible win for us last year too. He commented on how teams on a winning streak like that tend to lose their focus half-way thru the year and are acceptable to losses by lesser teams like the Rams.
You are right though, they could go 0-16 or for that matter, 13-3… I think a big part of that depends on Bradford and how quickly he takes over the offense (remember how Kurt Warner lit it up back in 1999… amazing how quickly things can change!).
believe me i wasn't kidding myself
but all those factors that made that game close can roll around again and with a different outcome. No-one will play the Rams expecting to lose…and complacency can bring good teams down. I’m not gonna sit here and proclaim some miraculous turn around but i have to have hope that the Rams will do something this year. All the nay-sayers can keep their realism and expect defeat after defeat, I’d rather look forward to a game and be potentially disappointed afterwards than dread a game and still be disappointed afterwards.
by Stonedtodeath on May 13, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
My favorite movie title....
“ON ANY GIVEN SUNDAY”… it’s so true, each team has a good chance to win a game… the only true outcome is after the game is played! that’s why I love the NFL!
And I’m with you STD (hmmm, maybe I shouldn’t use letters for your name)… I love looking forward to each game as one the Rams could win. As for as disappointment after the game… I just enjoy the game and watching two teams put it all out on the field.
i feel you there homer
every week i was telling my friend “oh the rams have a chance” or as a joke “the rams are going to give the saints their first loss” and hell, it almost happened! we have been the worst team in the past 3 years so i’m not disappointed when we lose anymore but i sure as hell look forward to every game as one we can win.
Speaking of the season....
How cool is it that this season, we’ll get to compare 2010 draft guys we could have had and see how good they might be:
Oct. 3rd, Seattle Seahawks – Golden Tate
Oct 10th, Detroit Lions – Suh
Oct. 24th, Tampa Bay – G. McCoy
Oct. 31st, Carolina Panthers – Jimmy Clausen
Then, just for fun….
Nov. 28th, Denver Bronco’s – Tim Tebow.
Looks like I’ll be working on the *ss groove in my couch all October!
My wins in bold
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arizona Cardinals
@ Oakland Raiders
Washington Redskins
Seattle Seahawks
@ Detroit Lions
San Diego Chargers
@ Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Carolina Panthers
@ San Francisco 49ers Niners
Atlanta Falcons
@ Denver Broncos
@ Arizona Cardinals
@ New Orleans Saints
Kansas City Chiefs
San Francisco 49ers Niners
@ Seattle Seahawks
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Ahhh, soooo....
your thinking Matt “my bad back” Hasselback’s back will be out after 3 games? hmmm, Yeah, i can see that… get them here at home as they are throwing their new QB into the game for the first time! We just need to make sure to contain that incredible back up running game they have (well, at least it was incredible against us).
I can see maybe the Oakland and Detroit games going the other way
Putting the Rams at 6 wins. Actually the Oakland game will probably be tougher than people might think.
I am not impressed with the Seahawks. New head coach, fragile QB, I give them the home game.
by CoachConnors on May 13, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure the Seachickens won't be the worst team in the league this year.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
i think we'll win this one too...
…but now they’re rid of Russell they’re a better football team and it’ll be a tough game imo
by IrishRamsFan on May 14, 2010 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, the Oakland game will be tougher
than it may seem on the surface, but by no means do I think that’s a guaranteed loss either.
It might look like a heated preseason battle haha.
I think the Redskins game is winable...
it’s the 3rd game of the new season and it just depends on how fast Donovan McNabb can come on board. Plus…they have to come to our house to play.
Go Rams!
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s
RAMS WILL DOUBLE THEIR WINS THIS YEAR.
I think the RAMS will beat Arizona once and Seattle once and maybe sneak a win somewhere else. For them to hit 8-8 they would have to get rid of their O.C. and work them very hard in prepping them for the season. I predict Bradford will be knocked out by the 4th game and Freely by game 8, poor conditioning will just lead to the further dimiss of a ONCE PROUD team. I love the RAMS but I am also a realist.
by California Mobile CPR on May 13, 2010 10:47 AM CDT reply actions
i think if the rams score more points than their opponent then they will have a good chance of winning every single game
also if the Rams defense holds their opponent to fewer points than they also have a good shot of winning…..now combine these 2 keys to victory and i predict the Rams will be an unstoppable force
+1!!!
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on May 13, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to TST Mr. Madden!
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Haha
What you want to do is get more yards than the other guy, while at the same time keeping the other guy to as few yards as possible. Combine that with yards after catch, which I like to call YAC, you get the YAC going and then Boom! You just might win the football game.
I'm more interested that they are trending upwards...
rather than the actual number of wins…how they play in those games they will lose is just as important as the result of the game…If they can be competitive, and avoid the blowout losses of the past two seasons, then I would be satisfied with 2-3 wins. Of course, winning is a good thing, and the more this young team can learn how to manufacture victories and hold leads late in the game, obviously, the better that will be. But I know that takes time. I just need to see that we are headed in the right direction. At no time did I feel that way the last two years.
of course, 1 and 15 season....
It’s almost impossible to go 0 and 16… so, we should be heading in the right direction. Just can’t get any lower than this.
I think the players drafted last year showed why we are moving in the right direction. and I can’t wait to see the new kids hit the field this year to show Billy knows what he’s doing when drafting. Now, can Spags coach? Well, the players seem to believe in him so we shall too.
The one thing I’m looking forward to is some sort of offense! We had none last year except for Steven running his butt off for the team! I wonder which reciever will start to really shine above the others? Perhaps our new tight end Fendi will shock everyone and become our standout TE/WR?
Billy Knows What He's Doing?
the guy who drafted Leaf…..the guy who traded picks with the Chargers so he can draft Vick, oh by the way, the Chargers used that pick on LT
Jake Locker in 2011
Gee, I didn't realize Devaney was the GM in San Diego.
Do you have any more such “facts” for us?
I agree with this line of thinking....
Wins aren’t what I am very concerned about this year – which I tried to explain briefly here. The most important part of this year is the development and handling of Bradford with 1b being the upward trending and competitiveness of the rest of the team. 2011 IMO is the make or break year of the FO (barring any career suicide like decisions this year). By then wins should begin to increase exponentially.
My hope is for 3 to 5 wins this year with 3 being my base expectation and 5 being everything going right (and a monstrous success). That being said, I could definitely see a 2 win year, but in no way can I see a 6 win year – and I personally can’t see how anyone can (I am still struggling to even find a way at 5).
Baseball season is back - Go Halos!
that wont cut it if we dont get a 6 to 8 win year the FO is history lmao
if im the new owner I have my eye on my next coach and GM already,im not gona pay 700 million dollars and watch Devaney and Spags ruin my team ,trust me too many real head coaches are waiting for a job as we speak lol
You said it yourself in another post
here that a FO/HC get three years to “show or go.” This would be year 2 with a rookie QB, and an ownership situation that may not be settled by next year – I think they make it to year 3. But year 3 is the make or break – they either show 8+ wins or will be shown the door. Thats just the nature of today’s NFL.
I think they can make that leap though as long as they bring Bradford along properly, get a #1 WR, solid DT and LB, and #2 RB with next years FA/Draft. IMO, last year was the 1st honest attempt at rebuilding (even though they sucked prior to) and it was definitely more purge then rebuild. Year 3 – make or break.
I should be working right now...
I thought they may actually get an extra year because of the ownership situation
I could see the new owner coming and if they see the team headed in a direction they like, giving them the 3 years. In that case they’d have had a total of 4 years, depending on how soon the new owner gets approved.
by CoachConnors on May 17, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
1 or 2 wins if that
One thing not really mentioned much is the fact that all of the crappy teams in the NFL improved their teams also. We need to make better moves and have better drafts then the others in order to be winners. I did not see that over the off season. Any one picking 5-6 wins is just plain dreaming. (but that is okay)
Side note: I spent $300 on NFL Sunday Ticket last year (I live in Seattle) just to watch the Rams lose 15 games. The pain was almost unbearable, so I will not be making that mistake again. Maybe in a couple of years I’ll try it again.
$300 bucks? wow....
did you enjoy that Sunday Ticket? You can watch any game you want with that, right? I finally gave up my PSL’s at the dome because my wife and I found more NFL atmosphere at home vs at the game. It was soooo boring down there. So, I let them go but was thinking I’d upgrade my big screen to a HUGE HD tv and then get the NFL Sunday Ticket. that way I could watch the colts or KC or any game I thought would be good (instead of suffering thru a long drawn out Rams game with no offense or good defensive plays)
I guess your answer depends upon what question you are answering.
If you are answering how many they could win if things go right, you get a different answer than if you are answering how many they are realistically likely to win. Those who said 5-6 are answering the first question, while those who answered less than that are answering the second question. Those who think we could reach 13-3 are dreaming.
Not this season
I don’t see a win on their schedule and I won’t be disappointed by that occurance. The real barometer for this season is how competitive they are.
If they show a good competitive spirit, we should start counting wins and expecting the players to take ownership for winning next season (whenever that will be…).
However, if there is no improvement, Devaney needs to get his butt kicked out of the door.
My guess is 4-5..but that was not an option :-)
All I really would like to see (other than actually making the playoffs) are good games. Whether the defense improves or not, I would like it if our offense could put up 20 points per game instead of our mediocre showing last year.
And maybe....
at least 1 touchdown per game (instead of 3-4 field goals).
Correction....
1 to 2 touchdowns per game…. i want to be a little greedy. :-)
17Can we shoot for the stars here and hope for a PPG of 17???? :-)
by kickasskeever on May 13, 2010 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
True....
it’s hard to see how the team would have done if we hadn’t gone thru so many recievers and o-line. Of course, injuries are just part of the game.
I wanted to pick 4-5 but
that option was not availble.
Go Rams!
"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s
I think we may see some
Bradford experiments going on too, making it harder to predict. And do they start a rookie at RT, or one of their older “depth vets” for now? That could make a difference. I can see Saffold being good eventually but possibly struggling early, like the normal rookie. This is a tough year to predict, I think.
I don't expect much.
Anywhere from 2-6 wins is expected. I can’t see us drastically improving this year. We are getting better, no doubt, but there is still a lot of inexperience, and quite a few more holes to fill on this team. Record doesn’t mean everything, I think we’re a hell of a lot better in 2010 than we were in 2009, but it’s still not enough to get us more victories.
I hope my prediction is wrong by 10-14 games.
First, I would like to know how we have gotten better for the upcoming season. We will most likely lose our best defensive starter (Atogwe), possibly lose our best pass rusher (Little), traded our starting right/left tackle (Barron) and will be starting a rookie QB with a surgically repaired right shoulder who will be throwing to receivers that can not get open. To top it all off our only bright spot last year, Steven Jackson is coming off of a pretty serious surgery. Injuries are a part of the game and we will have plenty this year as we did last year. So give me a reason why we will win more than one game this year, I have just given multiple examples of how we should be worse than last year. This is the same crap as last years off season. People were predicting 6-8 wins all over these sites. I will give them 1-2 wins due to the division being so bad but, if we acquire a good back up RB and hold on to Atogwe or pick up a good WR we may win 3-4.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
Negative or realistic?
Only time will tell. I hope to god I am wrong but, the logical part that dominates my brain says I am right. Sorry to piss in your Cheerio’s. Too bad I can never be an author on this site telling it like it is. GO RAMS!
I
V <<<<Arrow pointing down to Douchie. 550 people think we will win 5-6 games this year and that was after a 1-15 season. Last year a good portion of people on here and other sites predicted a 500 season or better. That is what I am talking about.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
who the hell
expected 6-8 wins last year? a rookie coach getting a team of nobodies? i’m sure all rams fans expected to START OVER and rebuild like we are doing.
There were plenty of people on this site
predicting 7 or 8 wins last year. Lots of optimism, just like this year. Optimism is great, but at some point we have to be realistic. Realistic for this year is that the team is not that much better than last year, our rookie QB will be really good some day, but probably not right away, and we probably won’t win many more games than last year. What I’m hoping is that the team will start looking better, we won’t get blown out so often, and we can have some real hope for more wins in 2011.
If wishes were
IF Bradford is the real deal – I think he is
IF Robinson Avery and Gillard stay healthy
IF J. Smith and Safford play up to their draft status
IF B Fletcher is 100% and Bartell plays like he did before his big contract and Murphy progresses the way Fletcher did last year
IF either Selvie Sims or Davis can turn into good 3rd down pass rushers
IF either Hoomanawanui or Onobun are an upgrade at TE
IF Atogwe resigns
IF Laurinaitis and C Long continue to improve
IF anyone can play OLB even average
IF our offensive coordinator calls for pass plays of more than 3 yards
We might win 7-8 games
IF all of these IF’s don’t come true – I will be a miserable SOB every Sunday night again
by 2cents on May 13, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Recommended.
Because listed all the major keys for this team, and because I can totally relate to being a miserable SOB every Sunday.
by CoachConnors on May 14, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
This might be a rough season for you then…… I will be happy if 6 of those things comes true!
(Bradford being the MUST)
by kickasskeever on May 13, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Atogwe does not resign, but I do hope he re-signs
and
If we can get an RB to take some of the load off Jackson
I voted 5-6 but I really think 4-5 is more likely
This years team is looking way better than last year, getting rid of INCONGNITO is addition by subtraction. Barron also too many peanaltys. Hopefully OUR D led by the Buckeye blitz can hold the opponents to less points again. What I really want is for Bradford to just out perform what Bulger did last season. If we can just keep our offense on the field longer both the our offense and defense suddenly look alot better. Instead of our D geeting tired it’ll be the opponents. Now out of next seasons schedule I see 11 winnable games. Meaning we could like at least keep close and have a chance. Both games against the Cards, both against seattle, raiders, redskins (yes even with Mcnabb), lions, bucs, panthers, broncos, and the chiefs.
to bad the schedule is not flipped.
It will be a while before both tackles get settled in and who knows when Bradford will start. We have the easier games at the beginning of the year. I don’t see the Rams being in a position to win right away. IF we could get to 4 wins, Spags should be the coach of the year! The Detroit game will be interesting. Will we see up close what we missed by not taking Suh?
Looks can k i l l
The Rams lloked good last year too for better than 1 win – then reality smacked us Rams fans between the eye sockets.
I say 4 or less – realism is key to guessing futility!
anyone hoping
that our preseason match against cleveland will be bradford vs. mccoy 2.0? haha i really hope holmgren plays him the same time bradford plays.
wow I hope every one of you is wrong yawl should start burning some sage lol
7 or 8 wins I think is very possible this year and on our way to become a playoff team
3-4
The Rams still suffer from the 2006 and 2007 draft failures. But the team seems to be doing much better drafting, so things should be improving soon. I think it kind of stinks for the Rams that some of the most winnable games come early (Oak, Det, TB, home Seahawks game), if more of those games were in the second half of the season I think there would be a better chance for Bradford to do some damage late in the season and go into the offseason with a ton of confidence.
by Mind of no mind on May 14, 2010 5:24 AM CDT reply actions
Guess you all forgot the 2000 season and how bad the Rams were three years before that
Teams rebound after really bad years,as we did after the 1999 year,who would have thought were going to the playoffs and win the super bowl,but we had better talent then I know that ,if fact Jerry Rice had said after a 49rs Rams game that the Rams have so much talent on that team if they ever wake up it will be scary and mind you they had just beat us for the 16th straight game,but he was right we did wake up and burned up the league that year,so don’t be so quick to think its unrealistic for the Rams to do what the Falcons and Ravens did with there rookie QBs.not to mention the Jets last year with a QB like Sanchez that is not half the QB Bradford is,I know were so use to seeing this team lose but its very possible to see the Rams look like a new team this year and get every ones respect real fast , i say we get 7 or 8 wins might even make the playoffs with King Sam
Go Rams
I had an interesting thought with your 1999 Rams reflection....
We turned the corner by removing what was holding us back… Tony Banks.
Could this years Raiders be the 1999 Rams? If you remember last year, they had some really good games once they let Gradowski start… perhaps this year, with Jason Cambell, they could really be something to watch and enjoy???? (although, I’m not really a Cambell fan… he seems to have flashes of brilliance followed by moments of bewilderment).
I agree but was actually thinking more about us
We got rid of Bulger and Boller and now Barron, all three not only sucked last year but are replaced by new young blood on this team,I cant help but think that is positive for the Rams
And yes we did have to get rid of Tonny Banks to turn the corner but
We added Warner and Green to the team as well ,i think were are kind of in the same boat but starting with a rookie QB this time ,but i do think this is the year the Rams turn it around and i agree with your Raiders call ,Russell was there Tonny Banks
All had much, much, much better teams to start off with.
The Rams of old actually made some great off season moves and didn’t just pick up back ups for their starting back ups. We did not do it through the draft only and that’s for sure. The reason being, that it doesn’t work! You have to do both, draft well and make some huge pick ups along the way. Also, let’s not leave out Mad Mike who even made Kitna a prolific passer with Detroit. Don’t think so? Look at the changes to the roster and depth chart from 98-99. Just about the entire offense was different and much of the defense. It’s called free agency, trades and a good draft.
Ignorance is bliss and way too many people are happy.
4-6
with all the ?‘s 4 w’s is likely. 8 is possible if we get some w’s in early season games against ari., sea., wash, oak. I say 6 if we catch a couple of breaks.
Yes
The Rams can win more than 4! Lets continue to stand behind them…Prorect this new QB and great things will happen! GO RAMS!
Shouldn't the Panthers struggle?
They drafted a 2 QB’s to compete with their incumbant, afterall. Sounds like a lot of QB mistakes to me. And Peppers is gone. The Rams should have a shot, especially if the Defense improves a little, as it should.
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