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Possibilities and questions about the Haynesworth-Rams rumors

If a no-season makes for this much offseason madness, I'm half tempted to welcome it. Maybe not, but the most interesting spring in a long time took another surprising turn of late with the whispers of a potential Albert Haynesworth trade...just one year after the defensive tackle was the biggest, costliest prize of the free agent season. Making the whole thing even more surprising are the rumors that the St. Louis Rams are one of the interested teams

There are conflicting reports today that Washington does not want to trade him and that they do want to trade him

The Rams aren't usually in the mix for trades involving the league's top players, especially given the kind of contracts those guys carry. However, this is strange new period for the NFL. The Rams finally have a front office dedicated to making the best team possible, and they have money to burn, sort of, after clearing out the hefty veteran contracts of yesterday. If the Rams really are interested - it's notable that Billy Devaney has not denied this one like they did so quickly with the McNabb and Vick rumors - there are a couple of scenarios that could make this trade feasible for the Rams. There are also, of course, a couple of question marks. 

Star-divide

What the Redskins are wanting in return has yet to be ascertained. One possibility that could be part of a Haynesworth deal is cash, of the cold hard variety. You see Washington spent a whole bunch of money for Haynesworth and his 4 sacks last year, and they just paid him a $21 million bonus last week. It's whispered that they might be looking to offset that bonus as the main part of a deal.

Of course, since when is money an issue with Dan Snyder? Maybe it is now since the media biz ain't what it used to be, and people aren't spending lots of their own cash to visit those dirty, run down Six Flags theme parks with unemployment still hovering around 10 percent. 

The Rams have salary space, so it's possible that they could use some of that money to make this trade happen. Then again, it's widely believed that the Rams are proceeding cautiously with their funds given the ownership situation, but there could be lots more happening behind the scenes than we know about on that front. Many would consider spending money on a player of Haynesworth's caliber to be a good investment since it would start getting butts in the seats at the Ed Jones Dome sooner. 

If money is primarily what Washington wants for the big DT, that also means the Rams likely don't have to surrender any of their draft picks in the top three rounds or so.

Then there are the Rams' players that could be a fit for Washington. DT Adam Carriker has been mentioned several times in the back and forth, with the Redskins eying him as a DE in their new 3-4 scheme. Would a Carriker-Haynesworth deal be enough? I doubt it. Carriker didn't even play last year. However, Carriker and some cash to offset that $21 million bonus payment might get the deal done.

Alex Barron might also be a potential trade chip for a Washington team needing help on the offensive line. He's athletic enough that Shanahan's cut blocking scheme could work and give the former first round pick a fresh start. That would leave the Rams with a huge need along the offensive line, but the draft or roster cuts could afford them a fix. 

Questions

On paper, Haynesworth instantly make the Rams defense much better, but if people are concerned about the baggage WR Brandon Marshall would bring, there has to some worry about Haynesworth's presence in the Rams locker room. 

The big DT certainly didn't have the kind of season you would have expected from his contract last year in Washington. His best season came in 2008, his walk year with the Titans. That has to be a concern.

If the Rams were to make  this deal, the front office would have to have supreme faith in Spagnuolo's ability to keep the balance in the locker room. 

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Do it!

Carriker and a 2011 4th round pick! They get their scheme player we get ours!!!!

The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.

by Bond_007x on Apr 7, 2010 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Still unsure on this one...

I stand by what I said in a previous blog:

Unsure if Washington wants to give up Haynesworth due to Shanahan wanting to win now. We know Haslett wants him, but how short is Shanny’s leash on Has-lost?

This would be a great signing for the Rams however, and I would expect a 4 player trade to happen: Campbell and Haynesworth for Carriker and Null + draft picks. Campbell doesn’t want to ride the pine and Null would be a back-up in Washington. Rams QB depth would now be Campbell, Bradford, Feeley, and Reilly. This would force Campbell to start while Bradford (and Campbell) can still learn the WCO from Feeley.

by 81 Witness on Apr 7, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Lets be real no one wants Carriker and

Haynesworth is way over rated,we can just draft a DT in the second or third or even fourth round and still get a real good player,we dont need to make a deal for him

by Ram-on on Apr 7, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Haslett wants Carriker

plus I’m pretty certain Haynesworth was playing in a gap assignment scheme in DC. While if he played here, he could be his disrupting self.

Pull the trigger Billy D.

The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.

by Bond_007x on Apr 7, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you say that?

At first glance I would think Haslet wants no reminders of someone who didn’t live up to his projection.

The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!

by CoachConnors on Apr 7, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's my belief

Haslett has always been loyal to his players. I remember him bringing in a lot of ex Saints to the Rams. He probably has a man crush on Carriker.

The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.

by Bond_007x on Apr 7, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Same with the UFL team he coached

He had a lot of former Rams players on that team too. No wonder they stunk!

by 81 Witness on Apr 7, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haynesworth to us

is kinda wishful thinkin isn’t it, not gonna happen

by Jae-So on Apr 7, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

overly wishful – this is the Rams we are talking about. Besides ED and MF, trades are usually busts.

by jlcdb70 on Apr 7, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do it.

4 sacks trumps any of our other DTs. And that was a shitty year for him. It would be an absolute coup if we could get rid of the ghost of Adam Carriker and get AH. Do it. Do it. Do it.

by AmpLee on Apr 7, 2010 11:59 AM CDT reply actions  

LOL

so true. haynesworth and robbns teaching scott and ryan, that’s definitely a good thught.

by douchiedude on Apr 7, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

They already payed him, what, 31 million?

We’d be getting him for a total cost of about 10 million for 2 years.

Not horrendous. But it’s feasible.

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on Apr 7, 2010 12:53 PM CDT reply actions  

and really only a commitment of 1 (uncapped) year

Motivation to play for the next contract builds the Rams a bridge to the future? Add a mid round value rook who comes in and plays behind him for a year? Sweet. Unlikely, but yeah, fun idea.

The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!

by CoachConnors on Apr 7, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I only one that thinks this is a bad idea?

Hanesworth got his big money contract (including a HUGE signing bonus) from Washington last year. He really doesn’t have any incentive to bust his azz anymore. Picking him up will be a monumental mistake. Players rarely live up to that big money second contract.

by Da Rams! on Apr 7, 2010 2:06 PM CDT reply actions  

not only that

but when someone gets cut, it’s usually a wake up call. chris chambers had to WORK his ass off for his contract in kansas city after the chargers cut him. maybe haynesworth will be his old self and work for his paycheck again.

by douchiedude on Apr 7, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think your point is he disappointed in WA, right?

I actually think he was used very differently in WA compared to TN and that lead to his produciton declining so much. He’s only 26 with 2 years on his contract and the Rams would be able to cut him after one with no penalty. I think that means he would more likey play his ass off vs. be lazy. He’s not Jamarcus Russell — meaning he’s already shown he is willing and able. The “why” is a question for speculation, I guess.

The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!

by CoachConnors on Apr 7, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Always fat and out of shape? He was a always big reason why TN's defense was so good.

He didn’t produce in WA’s system but the point is still valid that he has proven he can produce. I don’t think he’s anymore fat or out of shape than any other 26 y/o DT, but if he plays well, who cares if he is.

The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!

by CoachConnors on Apr 8, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Be honest if we picked Suh with our #1 you would be joking about AH right now

lets just bild thrue our draft ,this of the qaulity we got for a number 2 last year,and CB at number 3 i thrust these guys with the draft, period and we have 10 pics just load up we be fine and dont trow away money let them keep AH lol

by Ram-on on Apr 7, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions  

and one last thing i have to say

just cause they over paid him at 100 million dont mean we are getting a bargen at 10 million lol come one guys lets be real

by Ram-on on Apr 7, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions  

james535???

Baseball season is back - Go Halos!

by gorams77 on Apr 7, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please don't drink and post

Yes, I actually wore a watermelon on my head during the Rams SuperBowl victory in 2000.

by Midasknight on Apr 7, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody else noticed?

There are team names like, Lions, Titans and such that could be the possible landing spot for him. All the while, Devaney hasn’t denied any reports of this rumor and no one is really talking about us.

I’m willing to bet that Devaney’s got something up his sleeve!

The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.

by Bond_007x on Apr 8, 2010 1:24 PM CDT reply actions  

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