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Atogwe also dealing with sports hernia

St. Louis Rams FS Oshiomogho Atogwe is dealing with a sports hernia, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen. That, along with his recovery from shoulder surgery has no doubt been part of the Rams hesitation to hand him a one-year deal worth close to $7 million, as well as some insight into the lack of interest in the Rams RFA who was tendered at the lowest first-right-of-refusal level. 

What to do? Ideally, the Rams can work out a contract with Atogwe for a more sensible amount. However, with the return of CBs Bradley Fletcher and the additions of CBs Kevin Dockery through free agency and Jerome Murphy and Marquis Johnson via the draft, the Rams secondary could become a real team strength. Having the ball-hawking Atogwe manning the backfield would give the Rams a secondary that's always a threat to nab a turnover...not a bad thing to have in a division with shaky QBs. 

We'll see what happens with Atogwe. June 1 is the deadline.  

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june 1st cuts wont be as big a deal

because of uncapped year. Or am I off on that. Teams usually use it to devide cap hit to the next year.

If you love something, set it free. If it doesn't come back, find it and kill it.

by gomer7 on Apr 27, 2010 11:43 AM CDT reply actions  

That's not good news

I am not a big fan of how this whole Atogwe thing has been handled over the last couple of seasons. I’m not sure which side is at fault, but it has caused a lot of unnecessary issues. Now we have this injury to help make the waters even more muddy. I hope he can recover well. I wish him the best.

by Hetfield72 on Apr 27, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

the thing with June 1 and Atogwe is that the Rams have to either

resign him at a one-year, $7 million deal or he becomes an unrestricted FA.

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 27, 2010 12:03 PM CDT reply actions  

He'll either sign for less before June 1 or

…sign for less after. My feeling is it’ll probably be after.
I can’t see an injured guy getting 7M, even for 1 year.

Stop bitching.

by CoachConnors on Apr 27, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's pretty much unrestricted right now

and isn’t getting any offers. He’s obviously worth more to the Rams than he is anywhere else because of his history here. Teams just don’t covet him. So, it’ll probably be in his best interest to get a long term deal done with the Rams.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Apr 27, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

how about

3 years 15 million with incentives up 18 million?

by RamsFan7 on Apr 27, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

that i could live with.

but i think the rams would be unwilling to commit to him for 3/18 if is health is in question.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 27, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

would atogwe sign that?

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 27, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd almost guarantee he would.

Getting zero interest from other organizations makes 3 for 18 look really good.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Apr 27, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel for OJ

He was the one bright spot on a piss poor defense two seasons ago and he signs his franchise tender and stays quiet expecting another big year and getting a fat paycheck with or without the Rams. Instead everyone is hurt the following year including himself and everyone on the team is devalued further. Now with a sports hernia he is almost unwanted for the price he deserves because you never know how an athlete will react to a sports hernia’s. Anyone seen Kevin Curtis?

by biggilybird on Apr 27, 2010 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

OJ

If we don’t sign him who are we looking at as our starting FS?

by ksmooth on Apr 27, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea I like him as a backup

But as a fultime free safety? I see him as more of a strong safety anyway. I think he even played a little LB last year. I’m just saying when you have the choice between OJ and Dahl, picking Dahl would not be the better choice.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Apr 28, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m just saying when you have the choice between OJ and Dahl, picking Dahl would not be the better choice.

isn’t that kind of the definition of a backup?

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 28, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea

That’s what I was saying. That I only like him as a backup.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Apr 28, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get hernias

just watching him play. He definitely throws his body out there for the team. Gotta hate the business side sometimes, because this guy deserves a deal.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 27, 2010 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

not 7 million

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 27, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

From a business perspective? no, not 7 million

But for playing his ass off on shitty teams and being a great steward, he sure does.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 27, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is how I ended up thinking Blount was not a turd for bolting from the Niners

(Maybe he’s one for other reasons) At first I thought it was kind of a dick move to do that, but then I realized that until they had something with his name on it, he should be able to accept any better offers that come along in the meantime, as the business side of things should go both ways.

Stop bitching.

by CoachConnors on Apr 27, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure

Plus, the Niners have Gore and Coffee (which should be a nickname for Army Division units…). How many carries would Blount get there?

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 27, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now I'm 100% sure you're Ed.

I noticed Ed always spelled Atogwe with an ‘O’ (Otogwe). It always annoyed me a little but I never said anything. And now Tackle Box’s confirmation is confirmed, at least to me, you are Ed.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Apr 28, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that's a compliment. But I thought people called him Otog because aren't his initials OJ?

Atog is also a “Magic the Gathering” character, If you’re young enough to know about such card games.

by RamChop on Apr 30, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or it could be because you and edpjr use the same IP address

But you’re probably right.

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on May 2, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excuse me detective,

These things are not 100% accurate. But my “IP” address covers a large geographical area. I checked myself and it has me listed in the wrong city and area code. Furthermore, what right does TST staff have to delve into the privacy of their users?

by RamChop on May 2, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

How is an IP address private?

Have you ever visited a website? Sent an email?

Whenever you send data to anything, you’re sending out your IP address. There is nothing private about it; it’s a 32-bit binary number. Your specific IP address is for your computer. If you don’t want anyone to know what your IP address is, I’d be more then happy to show you how to use a proxy server…but the fact that it can’t pinpoint your location is irrelevant.

But I’d be more then happy to give you my IP address….147-222-129-9

Check it out for yourself: http://whatismyipaddress.com/

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on May 2, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

"What right does TST staff have to delve into the privacy of their users?"

This is a good question that I’m sure opthers have wondered as well. Along with “What right does anyone have to tell me what I cannot say?”

It’s because the website is not a government run, strictly public entity where access and free speech prevails above all. This is a community moderated by it’s founder, who has the ability to exlcude any person they want, for any reason they want. (The only time I have seen this done here at TST is when people relentlessly attack other members, or when they use extremely inappropriate and offensive language, or spammers). Its pretty rare here compared to an SBN community such as Bloody Elbow for example.

And the IP address is how peope are identified so they can;t be banned and return over and over again. Thats what the tool is for, besides knowing who is trying to “sockpuppet” (pretend to be someone else).

There’s been some good discussion on moderators and their juedgement in some other communities that I’ve been reading up on…Bloody Elbow and Watch Kalib Run for example.

It basically comes down to this: the community was founded by someone who gets to decide what kind of community they want to have. Peope who disagree and free to leave and start their own community and do the same.

I’m not inviting you to leave, or anything like that I rather enjoy dissenting opinions and people who back up their arguments with reason, as long as it doesn’t turn into personal attacks.

I’m just trying to explain that rights of free speech that the government guarantees you out in public on a street corner do not apply in a community such as this.

It’s like a neighborhood sports bar…someone really does have the right to decide who stays and who goes and your IP is your ID. It may be checked at the door.

Again, the ban hammer rarely comes out here because we have a great mix of people. But we only have that great mix because there are some limits applied.

We have positive people, we have negative people, we have balanced people….about the only thing we don’t want is otherwise good guys going round after round of personal attacks. That’s all. The only way to ensure some doesn’t do that, get banned and come back to do it some more is to have their IP identified to the moderators.

A good guide to posting is to speak as if you aren’t anonymous, as if you talking right to someone’s face. If you say something that might get you punched in real life, it probably isn’t appropriate here either.

Honestly, I do believe that for the most part we as a group understand the illusion of anonymity doesn’t mean it’s ok to act like the biggest jerk in the room, and that’s seen in the difference between this place and every other one out there.

by CoachConnors on May 3, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

should say "Peope who disagree ARE free to leave and start their own community"

But again, I want to stress I am not inviting you or anyone else to leave; this is an explaination of the relaities of SBN communities and nothing more.

Bloody Elbow has gotten the nickname Bloody Tampon for people getting banned (with no warning) over simple things such as differences of opinion on whats funny and what can be made fun of. Seriously. Its not so bad here.

by CoachConnors on May 3, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

But despite what you may think IP addresses are not 100%.

People change locations, computers, and internet providers all the time. We have a business with a website with a forum too. We constantly ban users for putting up everything from Viagra ads to hard core porn. Then Boom, they’re right back. I suppose you understand the problem from all the various spam ads on TST lately.

by RamChop on May 4, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not too sure where you're going with this

You’re right, an IP address is going to change if you change ISP’s or networks (like changing wifi, or moving). But this has absolutely nothing to do with you and you’re IP address, so this whole argument is moot.

Your computer’s address isn’t going to just magically change by itself unless you personally change it, and you didn’t. Like I said before, an IP address is the “port” if you will where your computer connects to the internet. Whether or not you change it or go through a proxy, it is ALWAYS accurate. Georaphical locations mean absolutely nothing here.

The reason why spam keeps coming back is because they are probably using a proxy server to go through which will change their IP. Thus, they show up as a different address.

But back to the matter at hand, stop deflecting.

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on May 4, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

fyi

What is an IP address?
Every device connected to the public Internet is assigned a unique number known as an Internet Protocol (IP) address. IP addresses consist of four numbers separated by periods (also called a ‘dotted-quad’) and look something like 127.0.0.1.

Since these numbers are usually assigned to internet service providers within region-based blocks, an IP address can often be used to identify the region or country from which a computer is connecting to the Internet. An IP address can sometimes be used to show the user’s general location.

Because the numbers may be tedious to deal with, an IP address may also be assigned to a Host name, which is sometimes easier to remember. Hostnames may be looked up to find IP addresses, and vice-versa. At one time ISPs issued one IP address to each user. These are called static IP addresses. Because there is a limited number of IP addresses and with increased usage of the internet ISPs now issue IP addresses in a dynamic fashion out of a pool of IP addresses (Using DHCP). These are referred to as dynamic IP addresses. This also limits the ability of the user to host websites, mail servers, ftp servers, etc. In addition to users connecting to the internet, with virtual hosting, a single machine can act like multiple machines (with multiple domain names and IP addresses).

by RamChop on May 4, 2010 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Here

link

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on May 5, 2010 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well I'm glad at least you stopped spouting drivel.

I don’t mean to brag, but I’ve been brought up on this stuff. I’m in no way an expert, obviously, but I do know my way around a computer.

I’m not saying you are not an expert either, but merely going to yahoo answers and copying and pasting in my opinion does not mean you’ve learned anything. Espicially with windows operating systems…knowing what to do and doing are two completely different things, but that’s besides the point.

There is no sense in arguing anymore. I apologize if in any way if i offended you, but I respectfully decline to believe you are not edpjr.

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on May 5, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

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