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St. Louis Rams 2010 NFL Draft grades: An inspired risk

Not 48 hours ago the St. Louis Rams, and every other team in the NFL for that matter, took a what fans and the front office hope is a great leap forward. Opinions of the Rams draft run the gamut. My feelings about it have evolved over the course of the weekend, and I wanted to share my own thoughts about how the Rams 2010 draft grades out, realizing that the Monday after is still a bit soon to make a comprehensive judgement. Bottom line: I'm encouraged, even a bit excited about the results. Like baseball's meaningless spring training, I think you're supposed to be excited about it at this point in time. 

3k posted his round-by-round grades and Tackle Box posted a look at the roster implications yesterday. I encourage you to read both posts. I'm not going to duplicate them here, and want to think about "draft grades" in a little different manner over the course of two posts, starting with this one. 

Star-divide

Let's start with the Sam Bradford pick. The Rams draft this year will be judged on the career of Sam Bradford. Face it, the draft picks in rounds 2-7 could all turn into Jay Zygmunt specials or, the flip side of that, they could all turn into quality starters, but the Rams 2010 draft will be graded based purely on what happens with their top pick. No pressure kid. 

Since March, it's been assured that the Rams would draft Sam Bradford with their first overall pick. Though Billy Devaney and other teams jockeying for a trade tried to muddy the waters on that, it was never really in doubt, especially after his scripted pro day workout that finally put to rest concerns about his shoulder. 

People will cite Bradford's medical issues coming into the draft - he did miss most of the 2009 season with OU - as a reasonable doubt for the $50 million worth of guaranteed money he'll likely receive. It's worth reminding everyone there that the Rams, and other teams, thoroughly investigated the quarterback's shoulder with physician analysis and ad naseum consultation with Bradford's doctor, the legendary Dr. James Andrews. They must have confident in the results because the Rams nixed an additional private medical exam in the weeks before the draft. 

It is perfectly normal to be concerned about Bradford's shoulder. However, the "i's" have been dotted and the "t's" have been crossed on his shoulder, and he really shouldn't be considered at a greater risk for injury than any other player who comes to Rams Park...which does seem to be slightly more hazardous than other facilities. 

We won't know for some time whether or not the Rams really hit on this pick. Development, especially for QBs, takes time and the team around him is still finding its legs too. Bradford owns the tools to be successful in the NFL, from his guided missile accuracy to the all-important character and mental makeup that goes just as far in determining whether or not QBs and any other players succeed. 

The question with the Bradford pick for lots of Rams fans centers on the opportunity cost. For example, could the Rams have traded (they didn't get an offer to their liking) the pick or grabbed Ndamukong Suh and then drafted Colt McCoy. The Texas QB, ultimately picked in the third round, might well have a bright NFL future.

Bradford was the best QB prospect coming into the draft with the highest ceiling. The Rams were not in a situation where they can do anything but the best QB available to them. The franchise has been on the skids for years now and in the process of turning it around they needed to acquire the best cornerstone possible; that was Bradford. The thought of going bust on a $50 million investment makes everyone timid, but if he proves to be the franchise QB the Rams need, then his salary will nothing more than an afterthought, money well spent. It's just the kind of risk you have to take when you're in the kind of position the Rams are. 

Results on the field also translate to results in the team's bottom line, something that has also struggled in recent seasons, as empty seats and local blackouts remind us. Not too long before the Rams were put on the market, Forbes valued the team at upwards of $900 million. Reality had a little different take on the franchise's net worth, and it went to market at approximately $750 million. An investment that will cost upwards of $70 million for Sam Braford could be well worth it if it brings back fans, ups the profit margin and helps the team get a new stadium, be it in the St. Louis or Los Angeles metro areas. 

Any system that makes first overall picks the highest paid players in the league, automatically makes those investments extremely risky. It's a risk the St. Louis Rams had to take, but an inspired risk. 

For now, the Rams get an A for their first overall pick in the draft. 

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Draft Results

After looking over the Rams final draft results this morning I started feeling sick to my stomach. Could this draft really just have happened. How can we have the overal pick in the draft and get a grade of a C+ while the 3 other teams in the NFC East all were graded higher. It blows my mind at some of these picks and how we didn’t trade or swap any of our picks in such a deep draft. Besides the Bradford and Selvie selections I’m at a loss for words.

How could we pass on:

2nd Round
Sergio Kindle OLB
Sean Lee OLB
Golden Tate WR
Rob Gronkowski TE
Taylor Mays S

We desperately need help at OLB, WR, and TE

3rd Round
Navarro Bowman OLB
Brandon Lafell WR

4th Round
Everson Griffen DE
Bruce Campell OT
Joe McNight RB

I can’t believe we passed on all of these guys to take

Rodger Saffold
Jerome Murphy
Mardy Gilyard

I’m still can’t believe the TE’s we took and didn’t address the backup RB posistion. McNight would have been a great compliment to SJax.

Alight i’m done venting for today. The Rams got way to cute with these picks and outsmarted themselves. I only hope a few of these guys pan out and pray Bradford is a great QB.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Saffold is waaaaayy better than Bruce Cambell (aka the workout warrior). Saffold was first round talent that the Rams got in the second. With all the money poured into Bradford, you have to make sure he is protected.

Jerome Murphy wasn’t a flashy pick buy he was a smart pick. A physical, fast DB who loves hitting and jamming WRs. Perfect fit in the system Spags wants to develop. Look how well Bradley Fletcher did last year before he went IR.

Check out Gilyard’s stats. The guy has great route running, fantastic speed, and soft hands. He’s a little short with what the Rams need but BD and Spags thought he could be a player.

To be, or not to be, — that is the question: — Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer — The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, — Or to take arms against a sea of troubles, — And by opposing end them?

by AbsolutMoose on Apr 26, 2010 10:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Everyone is a GM and only a few look at what we have thinking they fit into the system

we employ. I think most these guys fit into our system. D will be harder hitting, faster, attacking the ball, & stopping the run w/some of these guys playing. I believe we just got better & by midseason some ppl will see it in the games.

by RamsFan1979 on Apr 26, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

GM

I’m not trying to be a GM…I’m just giving my opinion which I have a right to do. I am looking at the system and I don’t like it. We have holes at WR/TE/DT/DE/Backup RB. You don’t employ anyone the Rams do so I wouldn’t use the word “We” when refering to the Rams. I’m just giving my two cents and I don’t like some of the picks. I hope you’re right and the guys do fit into the system but I honestly don’t think we got that much better. The Rams didn’t have a good draft in my mind and the Seahawks and Niners did. Hopefully we can be competitive this season.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

There is nothing wrong with giving your opinion. I myself wish they would of addressed some other needs earlier, but we need to just wait and see if this draft is actually worse than the Seahawks and Niners. IMHO, the Rams defense has taken a lot of flack for the pourous offense. You can’t have your defense on the field 40 minutes a game and expect them to win, unless your the Jets or maybe the Ravens.
Anyway, they got another solid lineman to protect their new QB, a solid hard hitting CB, and a decent WR for another weapon, who also will be a better kick returner.
If that TE that played basketball is a beast physically, athletically, etc. He may be a diamond in the rough. But we have no idea, as much as we look at things, BD and company have done so 10 fold, so lets give them a chance, before kickin’ them to the curb.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let me help you out...

You don’t have to wait to see if the Rams did worse then those teams…WE DID! Have you seen the 49ers draft? They actually put together a plan to get PLAYMAKERS and got them. Taylor Mays playing behind Patrick Willis?? Can you IMAGINE HOW THAT GAME WILL BE?? SMH….

And it doesn’t matter how good the other teams drafts were. The Rams didn’t win ONE divisional game last year. NOT ONE.

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you know we didn't get playmakers?

What if Bradford is the next Manning or Aikman? Sounds like a playmaker to me. How do you know that Gilyard won’t be the best rookie wr this year? Besides, the 49ers are in a lot better position to draft those type of players that you’re referring to. We are building from ground zero, we don’t have the luxury to get every sexy pic out there. I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree because, I understand the frustration, but I have no problem with the OT in the 2nd round, not because of Jason Smith, but because of Barron, which is from the former regime. They killed us more than most people realize.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barron wasn't the reason....

Yeah Barron’s penalties might have hurt us, but I can promise you the Rams weren’t 10 false start penalties away from making the playoffs. Trust me….

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

So Taylor Mays is the saviour?

We have decent depth at Safety, do you really think he is better than what we have? I don’t. But, I bet you that our new tackle is better than what we have.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Better than Jason Smith?

We just drafted him last year and paid him $40 million. Why do we need another Left Tackle. Barron plays right tackle, so are we really going to risk a second round pick on a guy that doesn’t even naturally play that position? And correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t Barron a left tackle that we moved over to right tackle? If so then that makes this pick even more ludicrous.

And no I’m not saying we should have drafted Taylor Mays, but if you follow the logic of BPA, then Saffold was not the BPA. The Rams made the wrong pick, IMO. It’s ok to admit mistakes sometimes. You don’t have to support EVERY decision your team makes.

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't support every decision but

this one I do. I still think Barron is trade bait. I think he is gone before the season starts, then Smith and Saffold will be evaluted as to who is better on the left and right with Goldberg as the backup, among the other ones lower on the list. We have three really good S’s already. You just spent a huge amount of money on your stud QB, you better be damn sure he is protected.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if Barron starts

Saffold can slide inside and play guard, according to scouts. Seems likely in fact. Then move back outside if Barron or Smith gets injured. You can never have too many good O-linemen.

by Toddius on Apr 26, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

What you are not getting is that

Baron wont be playing RT for much longer.

by gomer7 on Apr 26, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

or will he?

Saffold can play G, and might be a good fit at RG until after this season when the Rams make a decision on Barron’s future with the team.

Turf Show Times

by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 26, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

by much longer

i mean not after this year, I do believe we will keep him this year. He just isnt in our long term plans

by gomer7 on Apr 26, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

but yes, my opinion is pure conjecture

I just get the feeling that the coaching staff has tired of false starts

by gomer7 on Apr 26, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That would be ideal, but

some team will decide that he is worth a starter salary just because the guy has 4 years of starting exp and has played both sides. All comes down to market price I guess

by gomer7 on Apr 26, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably the Bears.....

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gilyard

No offense but there is no way Gilyard is going to be the best rookie WR this year. If he is though (jorge7) will get the credit.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds good

I’ll take that credit to. :) The bottom line is, you never know who is going to handle the pressure of the NFL, injury prone at the NFL level, etc., until they actually play at that level. A LOT of so called 1 round sure picks are busts. We all know that, but BD and Spags have a curtian system and they would know what’s better for their system than we do. All I’m saying is give these kids a chance before saying they aren’t worthy of the pick.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I hope these players turn out to be the right choices down the road and only time will tell. For some reason the Seahawks and Niners got all of the players I wanted the Rams to get which really pisses me off lol. I love the Selvie pick late and think he has a ton of upside for that late and the draft. Hopefully this team is headed in the right direction.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Funny you should mention that I was a GM for 15 years on a socker team were you?

Funny you should mention that I was a GM for 15 years on a Soccer team were you? I do know how things work and how players are picked and I sure know what the priority of this team is with the worst offense I have ever seen

by Ram-on on Apr 26, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

The guy is a Freak

He could suck but not a bad pick in the 4th round. Definitely has athletic ability

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately being a freak

doesn’t make up for the lack of technique. It doesn’t make up for the amount of time he ended up on the ground. The guy was way overhyped, and needs a lot of work in order to play in the NFL, where “Freaks” make a living every week.

by CaliRamMan on Apr 26, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

same feeling I have about everything you said the funny thing is that

When I made the exact same statement many challenged the grading of these players you just mentioned and told me that on the Rams board the players they picked were ranked higher lol is that even possible lol how can the players we took even compare with the above list that we passed on,this will take me a long time to get over missing a chance like this in the draft

by Ram-on on Apr 26, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

RAMS DRAFT 2010

Its all about the MIGHTY DOLLAR MY BROTHER! I’m not sold on Bradford and his rebuilt shoulder. I have lost my optimism after the last 4 years of disasters and even after this draft the RAMS MIGHT WIN 3 GAMES? Doubtful but we will see. The only good news is they didnt touch McNabb, Vick, Campbell or Kolb or J. Russell, Oakland went from a pityiful Russell to I suck a lot Campbell, but if Gradowski is healthy he will drive them to a 8 win season.

by California Mobile CPR on Apr 26, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saffold

I agree Saffold is way better than Campbell but he’s good value in the 4th round. We had much larger needs in Round 2 than OT in my mind. I think Saffold will be a good player but I’m real worried about the D and our WR/TE’s. Bradford needs someone to throw to and we need to be able to stop the run and put pressure on the QB. Protecting Bradford is obviously important but thought we could have waited longer for an OT.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

We needed an OT bad

Injuries decimated our line last year. Goldberg is serviceable, but not a starter. There is no depth behind Alex “False Start” Barron and Smith who may be concussion prone. Looking at your 2nd rounders (Sergio Kindle OLB, Sean Lee OLB, Golden Tate WR, Rob Gronkowski TE and Taylor Mays S), Saffold was the BPA over these guys.

I think the Rams missed out on Hardy @ DE, talented OLBs, and a solid back-up RB.

by 81 Witness on Apr 26, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

You really believe that Saffold is better than Gronkowski and Taylor Mays? Please put the kool-aid down for a second and think logically.

I liked Gronkowski just from what he did in the green room, not even looking at on-field production. That guy will be a great teammate and a true warrior on the field. He came out and Goddell with a helmet for God’s sake! He said screw the d@mn jersey! Gimmie a hat and lets go to work!

And then everybody is down on Taylor Mays. The same people that are down on him this year were swinging from his sack last year. You think Taylor Mays got bad in one year playing for USC? NO! It was the system that Pete Carroll had him in that didn’t allow him to shine. He had no help on defense. But don’t take my word for it….he will be around in our division for a long time, wrecking havoc on Bradford and company.

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I liked the idea of picking up Gronkowski too

But before the draft there were rumblings that his back was a major issue. We don’t have access to the medical reports so maybe the FO felt they couldn’t risk that pick on him. Obviously this is pure speculation but a team like the pats has the luxury of being able to swallow that risk. As for Taylor Mays if we had selected him there would have been just as many screaming that we had wasted a pick on an area that wasn’t a perceived need so you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t it’d seem

by Stonedtodeath on Apr 26, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree...

But I’m not saying we should have picked him up. But to say Saffold is better than them is ridiculous. We went with a luxury pick at LT, especially in the second round. We should have waited and used our second round pick on a position on NEED, not CONCERN.

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not NEED or CONCERN

You go by BPA, and that’s what BD and company did. They have to believe in their board that the scouts and everyone else involved put countless hours of work on.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then fire the scouts....

It doesn’t take a scientist to see that Saffold is NOT better than Taylor Mays. Saffold was SECOND-TEAM BIG TEN last year and DIDN’T EVEN GET INVITED TO THE SENIOR BOWL!

But he’s better? Yeah….ok

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

The Rams can’t afford luxury pick in the 2nd Round. They won a single game last season. This team has a ton of holes and needed to take the best available player with that pick. We need playmakers plan and simple.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mays was never going to be the pick

whether or not he’s a better player than Saffold is irrelevant since the Rams were never going to pick a Safety anyway. He could very well go on to have a great NFL career but it was never going to be with the Rams.

When a team is in the 2nd year of a total re-build you’ve got to take building blocks for the future and Saffold is one of them. He’s a 1st round talent who’s a versatile OL. He can play both T spots and RG. How does that not improve the team?

by IrishRamsFan on Apr 27, 2010 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

my thing with WRs

is that beyond Dez Bryant and D. Thomas, none of those guys look like true #1 WR, so why spend a pick on a component guy when you can get Gilyard in R4 who was ranked similar to the second tier group.

As for the Saffold pick, look at what the other teams in the division have for defenses, tough, pyhsical units that beat us up last year. can’t go wrong with a top-notch OL.

Turf Show Times

by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 26, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

WR's

I agree that Dez and D. Thomas were the only true #1’s but I think Golden Tate would have been worth it. He can play WR and be a factor in the return game. We’ll get to see him twice a year now with the Seahawks so I guess we’ll have a good idea if he was worth it…I saw Gilyard play on Cincy vs. RU these past few years and I’m not thrilled with him but he is decent value where we got him. I think he might have even fallen to the fifth round for us but who knows. He is the type of WR that the Rams typically like (small/fast/good route runner) but I really think we need a big WR as an Endzone target.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read several reports that Tate is projecting as a slot WR for the Seahawks. Would he have been a legitimate #1 WR for the Rams? A 2nd round pick for a #3 WR seems high to me. I think Gilyard will be pretty productive for the Rams.

I agree we need to get a big #1 WR but with the state the team was in pre-draft, there were too many holes to justify the pick imo. The current crop of WR’s will have do until next year’s draft. Avery, Robinson, Gibson and Gilyard present some decent options. This offenseive system is all about quick reads and 3-step drops. Having deep threats is important but equally important is having short/intermediate posession-type WR’s who can make 5 or 6 yard grabs to keep the chains moving. Gilyard could be that guy for the Rams. If the rams get the TE position right then that will make a huge difference to the WR’s too.

by IrishRamsFan on Apr 27, 2010 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes you can go wrong....

And we did. It was just LAST YEAR that we picked up a LT. So why spend the 33rd pick on ANOTHER LEFT TACKLE?? So what’s the plan for next year? Pick ANOTHER LEFT TACKLE in the second or first round? How about you work with what you have and pick up other positions and make them better. You can have the best O-Line in football, but if you don’t have any one to throw it to, then it doesn’t matter!

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

No one to throw to??

Why does everyone think we have no one to throw to? We have a good stable of young receivers with tons of upside. They will be better this year.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stable??

What games were YOU watching? Our leading RECEIVER last year was STEVEN JACKSON. If you don’t know, that’s the same Steven Jackson who also plays RUNNING BACK!

So how can we have good receivers and they be stable when our leading receiver isn’t a receiver?!? And for the record, he caught 51 passes. Yeah our starting WR didn’t even have 51 catches last year. I literally watched Brandon Marshall catch 22 passes in a game last year!! And to top it off, our #1 receiver caught pass for a total of 589 yards. Yeah…589. Our top 2 receivers in yards didn’t even combine for 1000 yards!! And you call that STABLE????

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

While I wouldn't call them a stable...

I’d say that the WR production might see an increase since we now have someone to throw them the ball.

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by Classic17 on Apr 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's hope so. Hope is all we have right now....

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are way to pessimistic

but I understand why. Just like Classic mentioned, do you think Bulger wasn’t part of that problem with the receivers?!? Even Boller was able to hit a target every now and then, unfortunately he hit a few CB and S’s as well. Robinson is going to be a stud, mark my words, and so will the WR and CB we got last year that went IR. They will be better, and I didn’t mean stable as you took it, I meant stable as in horses, a bunch of them, several of them, sorry if I didn’t say that correctly.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Injuries

Injuries killed the WR core last year. When the only WR that was available to play 13 games or more last year was the 4th-5th WR on the depth chart because of injuries it is close to impossible to make a true evaluation of talent at that position. Granted, that being said I would have liked to see the Rams not draft another young WR until you see that talent and then take that pick and use it to upgrade the D-Line.

by kickasskeever on Apr 26, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was Amendola btw. Avery, Robinson, Gibson (not with the team all year) all missed significant time. That pretty much only leaves Jackson to catch passes.

by kickasskeever on Apr 26, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely!!

I agree with you 100% Van!! This was a decent draft.

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Draft

After the last 4 drafts the Rams have had you can see why I’m worried about this one as well. I wasn’t thrilled with any of the drafts since 2006 and the Rams continue to dissapoint. We could have dealt some of these picks for additional picks or players ready to start now. I don’t think the Rams are ready to win now but we have a top notch RB who isn’t getting any younger. Going after Brandon Marshall or Santonio Holmes would have bolstered our WR’s much more than Gilyard. I understand that they’re not stand up guys but hey they can sure play football and help the team win. Giving up a 2nd or 5th rounder for one of them would have been worth it in my mind. I’m sure Bradford would agree.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Grading drafts the following week is dumb. Who knows how they will play out?

Give it at least 2-3 years then grade it. Anyone interested in grading 2007 draft?

by Summer of 99 on Apr 26, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

F

Just kidding but I know the first round pick (Carriker) is defintely an F

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

that draft get a D

only wade and ryan are still on the team from that draft. absolutely pathetic.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 26, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

fail.

so only one person from that draft is still on the team. glorifies my point even more.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 26, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

We need to chill out on all the players we didn't get.....

That huge list of players in each round that we didn’t get, have a lot of question marks as well:
Kindle-behavior, maturiaty issues
Tate-same size as what we have
Gronkowski-huge durability risk
Griffen-disappeared in a lot of plays
and so on, and so on…..
I think we had a good draft, it wasn’t a sexy draft, but they stuck with their board, and I have more faith in these guys than a bunch of sofa lovin’ GM’s. Chill out and lets give the new kids a chance before wishing for the greener grass on the other side. Go Rams!

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 12:25 PM CDT reply actions  

That is one area I will definitely give Spags and BD credit for. They avoided picking talent that could end up turning into another Cogs or Barron. Players that make bone headed mistakes either by not putting out the effort, or not being able to act mature enough to play the game rigght.

by kickasskeever on Apr 26, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Draft....

It’s funny & interesting at the same time to read everyone’s opinions on this Rams draft…. But no one really knows how well or how bad these players will pan out once the NFL season begins. We really can’t judge a draft until two to three years later.
I’ve no doubts Kurt Warner, James Harrison, Tom Brady, Brandon Marshall, Austin Miles, Tony Romo were NOT highly regarded by the fans of their respective teams the years they came out of college. Some weren’t even drafted! So can we all say with some degree of certainty that Kindle will be a better NFL player than Saffold? Or that Taylor Mays will become the next John Lynch? That Golden Tate will have a career that outshines Gilyard? We don’t and will not for a few years yet. Let’s wait and see before making some sort of judgement and venting dissapointment.

by Ricksome on Apr 26, 2010 1:33 PM CDT reply actions  

But the problem is....

No one will ever go back and admit they said Saffold was better than Mays when/if he does turn out to be a Hall of Famer. So unless you plan on saving these convo’s and bringing them back up in three years, we will continue to argue the point.

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Apr 26, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keith Null

How about that pick…he turned out great. I must admit that I flipped out when the Rams drafted him. Another wasted pick.

by ksmooth on Apr 26, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can show you some rookie stats of some other QBs

you’ll find that rookies generally dont do that well. Why would you flip out over a 6th round pick?

by gomer7 on Apr 26, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah…..somehow I am ok with taking a risk on a 6th round QB and not really about to die if that doesn’t pan out.

by kickasskeever on Apr 26, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm saying.....

I totally agree with Ricksome. As for RamsMan83 and ksmooth, you guys are relentless!
I’ve said this before, I understand your frustration and being pesimestic, but geez. C’mon, they haven’t even played a preseason game yet. I think BD and Spags did a decent draft last year, unfortunately, injuries killed us with our picks. Hopefully, bad luck won’t hit us twice. Keith Null was a project, everyone knows that, and he was thrown to the wolves. He didn’t have a chance, but I bet he’s a lot better from the experience. Only time will tell if this was a good draft or not, I don’t care what anyone says, that be the troof.
It was fun talking to you all, but I gotta bounce, until next time. Go Rams!!

by jroge7 on Apr 26, 2010 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Taylor Mays

Why did Pete Carrol pass on this guy?

by RAMIFICATION on Apr 26, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Roy Williams part 2

He gets swept up into making big hits at the cost of softening coverage and hesitating to commit to his assignments. Plus, they got a physical safety who, though he lacks the athleticism and strength of Mays, showed more discipline: Kam Chancellor from Va. Tech. It does make for an interesting storyline though.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 26, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone feeling the future of the NFC West?

Let’s see… Bradford, Hasselbeck/Whitehurst, Alex Smith/Nate Davis, Matt Leinhart/Derek Anderson. I’m feelin good about this.. anyone else?

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Hasselbeck is not in the future

But yes, the NFC West looks much better, but when you had some seriously shitbucket teams for a good 3-year run, all those draft picks eventually develop. Too bad that out of the Cards, Niners and us, we were the one team who didn’t make the most out of those picks. Jay Zygmunt fo life!

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 26, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I meant that I feel good as a Rams fan. Since I know SEA has no QB in a couple of years and Smith and Leinhart are just kind of failed top draft picks. Hopefully Bradford doesn’t become one of these guys, but I’m optimistic because Bradford still has a few years before anyone can officially call him a “bust”.

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

Brian Westbrook passed his physical…

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Apr 26, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Selvie

and Gilyard were the best picks of the draft by Rams imo.

Murphy @ #3 – hopefully not another Tye Hill,lol.

by jlcdb70 on Apr 27, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

impossible

Murphy, at worst, will be a round 3 bust.
Tye Hill was a round 1 top pick bust.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Apr 27, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rod Owens

One of the WRs we picked up from (FL)
He gets good remarks(But not drafted?)

by RAMIFICATION on Apr 26, 2010 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

More undrafted Free Agents

Kennedy Tinsley, FB, North Carolina
Cardia Jackson, LB, Louisianna-Monroe
Freddie Holmes, LB, N. Oklahoma

Jermelle Cudjo, DT, N. Oklahoma
Keith Toston, RB, Oklahoma State
Thaddas Lewis, QB, Duke
Brandon McRae, WR, Mississippi State
Simoni Lawrence, LB, Minnesota
Alex Henderson, RB, Northern Arizona
DeMaundray Woolridge, RB, Idaho
Jeromy Jones, S, Idaho
Rod Owens, WR Florida State
Adrian Davis, DE, Arkansas
Jamie McCoy, TE, Texas A&M
Darian Stewart, S, South Carolina
E.J. Reid, DL, Utah St. (Tryout)
The bolded ones are the newest additions. I haven’t looked into any of them yet.

by Carneros on Apr 26, 2010 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Draft

Personally, I think this was a great draft. People keep talking about ‘filling needs’ but guess what? on a 1-15 team every single position needs better players. Besides Steven Jackson, James Laurinaitis, Jamaal Brown and maybe Chris Long we can stand to get significantly better. They took the BPA on their board and have any horrible picks like Brian freakin Leonard.

Remember, we were 1-15. We are a bad team that needs help everywhere. They know a lot more than us. O and Taylor Mays is horribly overrated. His own college coach passed on him 3 times, that says something.

by stuman89 on Apr 26, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

i read this comment with Mr.T's voice in my head.

thanks, that was cool. and i totally agree with what you said. i would like the FO to have addressed the need at DT but hopefully the guys currently on the roster can and will improve thier level of play, same thing w/ the WLB.

"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense

by moy on Apr 27, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

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