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Rumor busters: Trading down to win now

The reason the St. Louis Rams are picking at the top of the draft, after picking second overall the two years prior, is that the team is still suffering the effects of the disastrous Jay Zygmunt era. Years of bad drafts failed to produce the young talent needed to sustain a competitive team, leaving the burden to the fading stars of yesterday. Three wins, two wins and a single win season last year, the team has no other choice but to rebuild. 

Billy Devaney and a brand new front office started that rebuilding effort in earnest last season, adding two essential chips to the offensive line, the rotting foundation of a team in decline. This year's draft is the next step in that process, and maybe the most important step they'll take moving forward as a franchise. The 2010 draft will have much more to say about the future of the Rams than even Stan Kroenke, Shahid Khan or Chip Rosenbloom. 

Enter Sam Bradford. To use the old cliche, this is a quarterback's league, more so now than ever. If your team doesn't have a solution under center, they will not be a competitive team. Teams rebuilding have to have that essential building block in place in order to at least move forward with the nucleus of a competitive team in place. Sam Bradford is the Rams best option for filling that need. There are other possibilities, but Bradford gives the Rams one of the top young quarterbacks who would be the centerpiece of the team for years to come, a decade if not more. He's no sure thing - no player is - but the Rams have few other options to be the cornerstone of a rebuilt team. 

The talk floating around now has the Rams top pick up for trade. Naturally, Billy Devaney would be wise to listen to all options for the team's pick, and if a lucrative enough offer comes along, they can seriously consider pulling the trigger. However, the right offer must include enough draft picks to allow the Rams to find needed players - and they need a lot of players - to continue the rebuilding process, to form the nucleus of a competitive team for at least the next five years. 

So we come to the rumor du jour, the next stage of evolution in the talk of Cleveland trading up for the first overall pick. Would the Rams be willing to trade the first overall pick on the cheap?

Let's hope not. There's probably some middle ground, i.e. where a team doesn't fork over their entire draft, but swapping first round picks with a team and getting an extra third rounder is not enough. The worst part about the rumor du jour is that line about the Rams wanting to compete now, which probably ought to reveal that this one is classic pre-draft subterfuge, grist for the rumor mill and nothing more. In case you haven't noticed, the Rams are a long way from competing now. Sam Bradford isn't going to make the Rams anymore competitive in 2010 than a couple of extra picks in the first three rounds. And the fastest way for a front office to get their ticket punched for a one-way trip out of town is to surrender a bright future for a best-case scenario of eight wins next season...and that's generous. 

Ignore this rumor ladies and gentlemen. The first pick may be had for the right price, but it won't be had at a discount for some wrongheaded near-sighted vision of Golden Horns in the Super Bowl next year.

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If Devaney trade with Cleveland

Who’s the pick at number 7?
It might be Clausen but what if Buffalo trade up with KC and pick him before us.
And if they’re sold on McCoy in the second and don’t draft Clausen at number 7, who do they take? If we consider that QB, WR and DE are our biggest need there isn’t much value at that spot.
To me you don’t pass on a franchise quarterback and you don’t trade him away

by MathB on Apr 20, 2010 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Can't remember where I heard this....

but perhaps we take Bradford… and then if Cleveland does land Clausen, then we trade with them both QB’s and we get some more draft picks from Cleveland.

by Rams Homer on Apr 20, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard this too and it was on espn radio was where I heard it.

by bobhugehands on Apr 20, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever works

Devaney doesn’t look like Mr. Rogers, more like Robert Patrick, “I’m looking for Sarah Connor.”

At this point I just don’t care. I will be happy whether we get Colt, Sam, or Jimmy.

by 81 Witness on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Scared...

Am I the only one terrified about the Rams trading down and not getting more than average players to fill out some of the empty spots? We need to take some chances and please if we trade, we should get an extremely attractive package of picks. Here are some scenarios I would be happy with:

1) Get Bradford and then get BPA in the second round or if someone like Dez Bryant falls to the end of the first round, trade up with our 2nd round pick and perhaps our 5th? Fills QB and WR needs.

2) Get Suh and then McCoy with our 2nd round pick. Fills our QB and DT needs.

3) Get Suh and then Dez Bryant if he falls to the end of the first round by trading our 2nd round pick. Then get Campbell after the draft to provide a temporary solution to our QB situation. Fills our DT, WR and QB (temporarily) needs

4) The only trade down scenario I would consider would be if the Redskins would trade with the Lions and then, they would trade with us so we would end up with the 2nd pick in the first round and perhaps an additional 2nd round pick. In this scenario, we would take Suh, use the additional 2nd round pick to trade up into the bottom of the first round to get someone that could have fallen there and then use our own 2nd round pick to get McCoy. This would be a perfect scenario for the Rams I believe.

On a side note, I still cannot believe we didn’t go after Tony Scheffler. We could have had our TE situation fixed for a 5th round pick.

Can’t wait for the draft! I really hope BD comes up with a plan that takes some chances and makes us (Rams fans) excited about next season.

What scenario would you be happy with?

Go Rams!

by abiRam on Apr 20, 2010 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I can deal with #4

Anything but a qb this year! I seer a major injury if a QB is picked with a draft choice this year!

Stockpile picks for team unity, not adding lottery opportunities making it sound like a franchise sure thing. I would select either Suh, McCoy, Berry or Okung at #1 for Rams. Otherwise, trade down, take Berry, an ORT or a DE!

Suh reminds me of Michael Strahan!!!

by jlcdb70 on Apr 20, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would relish a trade down ...

I love Suh, but he’s one player. A trade down does NOT mean we get a bunch of average players. It means more good players (rounds 2, 3 and 4). Let’s take chances once we are only a few pieces away …

This is a team sport. Take this basketball mentality to the hardwood. It doesn’t belong in football.

Yes, I actually wore a watermelon on my head during the Rams SuperBowl victory in 2000.

by Midasknight on Apr 20, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree....

That first pick isn’t going to change the team, it’s those picks in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th rounds that will make a big difference. It will be interesting to see what direction the Rams go with those picks and to see who’s availiable at that point.

by Rams Homer on Apr 20, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Message received...

… I really appreciate your comments, especially since you typically have a different point of view and you bring some optimism to the table.

I respectfully disagree though, I think we need impact players. The last few drafts have been a complete disaster and have put us where we are now. Think about our WR/TE corps… we have good players, Avery, Robinson, Fells… but I think we need playmakers that would take us to the next level. In my opinion, the only real difference maker we have is Steven Jackson.

In any case, I hope that wherever BD decides to do is a step forward…

by abiRam on Apr 20, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Devaney wont trade down unless he gets the deal of a life time lol

Hes a fox very smart and he knows Brdafords value im not worry one bit he will do the right thing 99.9% were taking Bradford

by Ram-on on Apr 20, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

also agree

Teams are made by the picks in rd’s 2-5. There are many players that will upgrade Rams if they trade down. I’ll take 3 very good players over 1 great.

by rlf707 on Apr 20, 2010 12:00 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm fine with trading down

as long as we are absolutely sure we can get either Clausen or Bradford. I just have this sinking feeling that McCoy is absolute garbage. If we don’t get one of the top 2 QB’s I hope we don’t get one at all (I’m looking at you Mike Reilly).

by kinzav29 on Apr 20, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Well here's the problem...

We could end up with two and maybe an outside chance three teams that will select a BQ before our turn.

Check this out:

Top 7 NFL draft positions and team Quarterbacks:

1 St. Louis Rams
(you know who we have)

2 Detroit Lions
Matt Stafford (age 22) – Franchise QB.

3 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Josh Freeman (age 22) – Franchise QB.

4 Washington Redskins
Donovan McNabb (age 33) – How many years could he have left?
Kevin Kolb (age 25, by start of the season 26) – Is this their QB for the present and future?
Jason Campbell (age 28) – Is he on the trading block?
Rex Grossman (age 29, by start of the season 30) – Four Quarterbacks, somebody has to go!

5 Kansas City Chiefs
Matt Cassel (age 27 by start of the season 28) Has a 6 yr, $63 million contract – Too much invested to draft a QB.
Brodie Croyle (age 27) – He was a starter in 2008 and when Cassel was injuried in 2009.

6 Seattle Seahawks
Matt Hasselbeck (age 35 by start of the season) – On his way out
Charlie Whitehurst (age 28 by start of the season) – He’ll be competing with Hasselbeck for the starting spot

7 Cleveland Browns
Jake Delhomme (age 35) – On his way out
Seneca Wallace (age 29) – Back with Mike Holmgren – will he compete for the starting position?

I see two teams, and just maybe three teams who would go after a QB if the Rams traded spots with Cleveland… the Seahawks and the Browns for sure. Now if it ends up being two teams then Bradford and Clausen are more than llikely gone (IMO) The only other QB that I am aware of that the Rams are interested in is Colt McCoy and there’s no gaurantee he will be there either the Chiefs or Redskins would go in that direction. So what doest that leave for the Rams? Tebow? I don’t think so.

Go Rams!

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on Apr 20, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Correction!!!

Typo – I meant QB not BQ.

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on Apr 20, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes no one wants to think that Colt wont be there lol its too funny

You all just assume he will be waiting for us lol ,If they think we need a QB our only option is Bradford ,Unless you don’t want a QB this year and your fine with the QBs we have lol sure we can then load up on other needs ,but from what I see you all want your cake hole and you want to eat it too lol make up your mind boys you cant have everything this year,

by Ram-on on Apr 20, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm, I think Kevin Kolb plays for the Eagles,

not the Redskins. Still, your point is right on.

by andyrose on Apr 20, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yikes!

You’re right…what was I thinking? I meant Colt Brennan, Washington’s 6th round draft choice in ’08.

Thanks for the correction andy. At least somebody is on their toes.

Go Rams!

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on Apr 21, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Remember one thing we need a Franchise QB. Not just fill a position on the team

That is Bradford ,don’t get so hung up on B.D. talk of how impressed they are with all the QBs lol ,he will never bad mouth a player ,or tell us if he thinks one QB cant make it to the next level,the people in the know will tell you Bradford is by far the best QB in this draft

by Ram-on on Apr 20, 2010 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

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