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The draft's shifting landscape & the fate of Suh and McCoy

If you were too busy laughing at the ridiculous Dan Snyder-like deal the Bears were giving Julius Peppers yesterday, you might have missed the news that the Lions, who own the #2 pick in the draft, made a trade for DT Corey Williams. That move could really shake up the way fans have been expecting the NFL Draft to go next month.

The Lions were a favorite to take one of the two defensive tackles considered to be the two best players in the draft, Ndamukong Suh and Gerald McCoy. With the Williams move, the Lions taking either one of those players with the second overall pick seems highly unlikely. Detroit could of course now be in a position to trade that pick, or perhaps draft Oklahoma State OT Russell Okung.

With Tampa picking third, one of the DTs would most likely go there, even if they trade the pick. With Washington picking fourth, it's unlikely that the defensive tackle being drafted after the third spot could fall further down the top ten. The Chiefs could use a nose tackle, but would either Suh or McCoy fit that bill? 

Much of this still hinges on who the Rams pick first overall next month. If they pick a QB and Detroit picks Okung, it will be interesting to see who the Redskins target. Will it be a QB or perhaps OT Bruce Campbell? 

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The Rams better not select a qb #1

Think – fearsome foursome, fearsome foursome, fearsome foursome – the most consistent winning Rams years was when they had a great defense.

by jlcdb70 on Mar 6, 2010 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

That's for the Fearsome Foursome Mark I

The 70 seventies version (with Youngblood and Dryer) gave us playoff seasons and a Superbowl trip with very pedestrian QBs…

by Le Ram on Mar 6, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Well done Detroit.

Add that to the Vanden Bosch acquisition, and look at how the worst team in the NFL is looking to climb out of the cellar.

by CaliRamMan on Mar 6, 2010 11:46 AM CST reply actions  

Worst team in the NFL..........that would be the Rams.

We are still likely to take Suh or McCoy as Detroit will draft the Best Player Available.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 6, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

If you say so

You’re the ones who lost to the “worst team in the NFL”. But you are looking to be better for the coming season. And since you have so much say in the the Lions do, I’ll believe you when you tell me what the Lions will do.

by Carneros on Mar 6, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions  

OK

Prediction:
The Detroit Lions will select Eric Berry with the #2 overall pick in the 2010 Draft, regardless of what the Rams do.

You’re right, the landscape IS shifting……..or, more precisely, the perception of the landscape by those on the outside. McCoy and Suh seem less likely now, and Berry more likely. The moves continue in that direction, and away from Suh and McCoy, who some say don’t fit Gunther’s 2-gap blitzing 4-3 with it’s “GIANT DT’s”, especially after McCoy’s poor Combine performance. Eric Berry had a good Combine, and still looks like a PERFECT FIT for the Lions’ D as well as possibly the BPA……“BPA that FITS”, as Schwartz likes to say.

GM Martin Mayhew got another steal, similar to the Roy Williams trade. 320 LB DT Corey Williams is a disruptive size/agility mismatch who had 7 sacks in 2006 AND 6 sacks in 2007, when he played in GB’s 4-3 (Jonathan Babineaux led ALL NFL DT’s in 2009 with 6 sacks…..40th overall, after 38 DE’s/OLB’s, and 1 ILB). The last 2 years he was uncomfortable as a DE in Cleveland’s 3-4.

The handwriting is on the wall, but the so-called “experts” are stubbornly clinging to the Suh and McCoy hype, living in denial as their tone sounds ever more desperate. But the draft isn’t a popularity contest. Schwartz is a smart guy with a background as a scout. He’ll make the smart picks, not the hyped ones. The media can’t shove the wrong player down Schwartz’s throat.

I’m ordering my Eric Berry Jersey.

Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.

by GRLion on Mar 6, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions  

We'll see what happens

Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.

by GRLion on Mar 6, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

*Correction...Corey Williams also had 7 sacks in 2007

Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.

by GRLion on Mar 6, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Lions released Grady Jackson

A DT at #2 is still a good possibility

by JazzyBBP on Mar 6, 2010 3:15 PM CST reply actions  

Lions released Grady Jackson (345+ LB)

Signing 320 LB Corey Williams is a good possibility………..oh wait, they just did!

Honorary Driver of the Kyle Wilson Bus and Keeper of the Dreadlocks!
The 313 Missile Squadron: Delmas, Berry, Wilson......seek and destroy!
Hey, as long as Zack Follett keeps hitting people, he can rap to Barney the Dinosaur for all I care.

by GRLion on Mar 6, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions  

be smart detroit

pick okung #2 or trade down who will stop peppers and allen? dont forget lions have about the worst o-line in the league with no time to throw and no push for the run

by Daniel Simonelli on Mar 6, 2010 3:19 PM CST reply actions  

Often Peppers stops himself.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Mar 6, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

The Rams gave up more sacks than Detroit in 2009.

You guys should worry about your own situation. Your O Line is nothing to rave about.

We have a very capable GM and a very good coach, we are on the right track. I hope you guys get there too.

by NorthLeft12 on Mar 6, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Im glad to know that Detroit is on the right track.

I can sleep better at night now. The fact of the matter is both of our teams have been bad in the past years. We are faithful to our team here and understand how many holes we have. This will take some time to fix and then the rams will start winning more games.

Last years draft was a success in my mind and looking forward to this years if its Suh, Bradford, or whoever.

by ramsrule on Mar 6, 2010 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Mr. Roto strikes again

Fred Robbins to Rams

The Rams are reportedly finalizing a deal with free agent DT Fred Robbins.
Reuniting with coach Steve Spagnuolo? The Rams aim to get bigger upfront, and Robbins (6’4/325) would provide a presence at the 3-technique tackle. If healthy, Robbins would be a boon to the team’s run defense.

by Carneros on Mar 6, 2010 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

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