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Frustrated by free agency so far? Patience

Anyone thinking the St. Louis Rams would move as fast this year in free agency as they did last year is bound to be a little disappointed. I can only counsel patience. 

Last year, the stars aligned a little better for the Rams in free agency. They had some prime targets that directly addressed important needs for the team. C Jason Brown was on the radar immediately, with the team setting up a meeting within 48 hours of the start of free agency. They worked out a deal with CB Ron Bartell, who was an unrestricted free agent, within a week. There was talk about signing SS James Butler in the early days of free agency too, but the team didn't reach a deal with him until two weeks into free agency.

This time around it's not so easy. None of the big names in FA to sign thus far, less than 24 hours in, would have been good fits for the Rams. Nate Burleson, not exactly the WR we're in need of. Did you see how much the Bears gave Julius Peppers? That wasn't realistic for the Rams.

Here's a pretty telling point from Mike Sando today: of the 43 unrestricted free agents with a Pro Bowl appearance, only one is younger than 29-years-old. 

The hardest pill to swallow is the report that the Seahawks are bringing in Broncos WR Brandon Marshall for a visit. Marshall, a RFA, would cost a first round pick, if signed away from the Broncos. Seattle has two of those.

All is not lost. If you're starting to despair that A.J. Feeley might be the only roster move the Rams make, be patient. It's telling that the Rams had scheduled a visit with RB Darren Sproles during the brief window when it looked like he would be a free agent.  

As for trades, I expect the Rams to at least explore some options via that route, but those take time to hammer out deals.

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People are freaking out about this signing, do you think anyone in our front office thinks AJ Feely is going to be our starter in 2010, come on people. Thinking we are going to be able to trade out of the 1st pick is delusional. I have faith in Spags and Devaney, how many free agents in this class do you think want to sign with a 1-15 team. There will be more movement on the free agency front, I feel after the draft especially in an uncapped year. The Rams should draft Clausen first and see how the draft shakes out from there. I have been waiting for the media to realize Clausen is the better QB but the only one who realizes it is Kiper (usually the most reliable anyway). All I and other Rams fans can hope for is that we don’t allow the Clausen to fall to Seattle at 6.

by miketrap3 on Mar 5, 2010 3:05 PM CST reply actions  

No Offense

I would take whatever Kiper says and do the complete opposite

by RamsFan7 on Mar 5, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Kiper is a somewhat knowledgeable windbag

who says a lot of crap to get attention. His knowledge of college players is broad, but I don’t think its necessarily deep enough on any one guy. And I don’t think he knows at all what a specific team should do because he doesn’t know the inside story on what their trying to do.

But the man can name thousands of NCAA players and tell you what they do did well in college.

by CoachConnors on Mar 5, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

nah

Jimmy Clausen is the next Jeff George. He has all the physical ability in the world but the brain of a high schooler.

by Denotion on Mar 5, 2010 3:45 PM CST reply actions  

I don't think that's the case

You don’t see a lot of Notre Dame’ers coming out and being complete F ups like Lawrence Phillips’s or egomaniacs like Deion Sanders. Not that they are all impeccable characters guys…I just don’t think people know Clausen or that school as much as they think they do.

Thank goodness no one had TV cameras on me when I was his age.

by CoachConnors on Mar 5, 2010 10:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Claussen concerns me in two ways.

1) With the ego this kid has, how will he handle not having success right away?
2) If the scouting report I read about him rushing his throws when facing the blitz in college is true, how is he going to handle being rushed as hard and often as he will in the NFL?

by etp_stl on Mar 6, 2010 12:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Certainly none of these QB's come in with no concerns

The report also said he makes good decisions which is most important to me. I think he’s a lot more grounded than people think. Probably 90% of the league has big egos and there are more success stories than there are Ryan Leaf’s. (speaking specifically to what caused Leaf to crash and burn, which was not handling adveristy)

Clausen will have vets around him that have had to play though bad spells…Feeley for one…and Null is a great example of the demeanor of not freaking out when the shit is hitting the fan.

I don’t worry one bit about your 1).
Your 2) is legit, though at least he has faced pressure whereas Bradford really has not and Bradford had much more time to work with because of the spread offense. I would worry about Bradford more than Clausen for that one. But Bradford has other areas where he looks like the better QB, so who knows.

by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Seriously?

What basis do you have for that statement? by all accounts he was just as impressive as Bradford in diagnosing coverages and in the private interviews at the combine.

by miketrap3 on Mar 5, 2010 3:48 PM CST reply actions  

I'm sorry, but patience is hard

when other teams are signing all the good free agents. Seattle is interviewing Kampman, the Bears signed Peppers and Chester Taylor, the Jets traded for Cromartie, Dansby is apparently going to sign with Miami, Who is left that could really help the Rams? What is the point of freeing up all this money if we aren’t going to spend any of it?

I had real hopes that the Rams would make a couple of important pickups in free agency to go along with our draft picks. Now it looks like they are trying to impress the new owner by showing him how low they can hold the payroll. I’m not asking for them to spend like Daniel Snyder, but do something that helps the team.

by andyrose on Mar 5, 2010 4:20 PM CST reply actions  

agreed, but we have to spend wisely

I would LOVE Kampman, but we have to make smart decisions instead of just throwing money left and right and probably eating it down the road with the player not even on the roster anymore.

My wish list:
Kampman-FA
Boldin-FA
Bradford-#1 Pick
Weatherspoon-#2 Pick

by Jombari on Mar 5, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

boldin

is gone for a 3rd and 4th round pick

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Mar 5, 2010 6:06 PM CST up reply actions  

not jumping in on that was a mistake, although Arizona would not have given us the same price….

Bloody division….

by kickasskeever on Mar 5, 2010 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Eagles release

LB Will Witherspoon

Steve Nash plays D!!

by phxsuns on Mar 5, 2010 4:33 PM CST reply actions  

Spoon

I think we should bring Spoon back. We have a glaring need for a weak side linebacker and locker room leadership!

by Ramfan from Seattle on Mar 5, 2010 4:39 PM CST reply actions  

That may be but

He will definitely go lower than he would have before the combine. He made a complete ass of himself and was Me Me Me the whole time. Loud, obnoxious, and some GM’s were saying they would not put him in their locker room. I agree with that feeling now, too.

by CoachConnors on Mar 5, 2010 10:54 PM CST up reply actions  

First day free agent signings are for Suckas!

Do any of you realize just how hard it is to get your money’s worth out of some of these big time free agents? Once these guys get their big money free agent deals they disappear on their new team’s roster (either by not playing up to their contract or by constantly showing up on IR). Look at the Redskins, who yearly sign the biggest free agents on the market to big money deals. How many playoffs have they been to in the last 10 years? Zero. Our team’s example of this is Marc Bulger. Has he lived up to his big-time deal? NO. Its not all about signing the best player, this offseason should be mainly about shoring up team depth. Let the Bears, Cowboys, and Redskins overspend on talent.

by Da Rams! on Mar 5, 2010 5:13 PM CST reply actions  

Bulger

has been playing behind a fairly shitty O line that has also been decimated by injury

Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat

by DESTROYER on Mar 5, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Redskins...no playoffs?

Redskins were in the playoffs in 2000 and 2006 winning two and losing two.

by Ramfan from Seattle on Mar 5, 2010 5:41 PM CST reply actions  

Do something more than Feeley

Patience is fine if your 15 and 1. They have had ample time to set into motion something other than Feeley. Give us some hope and hammer out something. Even the Bears are getting it done. Marshall goes to the Hawks. Oh by the way we have hard luck against the supposedly lowly skins.

 Somebody out in the Gateway city better wake up, and quick.

by FightingAmish on Mar 5, 2010 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

Patience? I've been patient for way to long!

Rams fans had to be patient all through the 90’s and finally Kurt Warner comes out of no where and gives us a couple of good seasons followed by a couple by Bulger. Since 1990 the Rams have had 4 winning seasons and now you want me to be more patient. How much can you expect fans to endure? The Patriots were terrible in the early 90’s and yet now every year they are putting together playoff caliber teams. Dallas was 1-15 in 1989 and then starting winning super bowls by 1993. The Colts were 313 in 1998 only to go 13-3 in 1999. The Rams haven’t had a winning season since 2003. We’re going on 7 years now of pathetic drafting,terrible free agency,and we’ve been told to be patient and wait because our team is turning it around. Well years later I’m out of patience. A Super Bowl win in 2000 and 3 playoff apearences in 20 years doesn’t cut it. It’s time to pay back your loyal fans by at least attempting to get us some quality players that can turn this train wreck into a winning team once again. Once this is done maybe we can actually learn how to keep the team competitive for years to come. All I see now is good teams getting better while we pick up a scrub and then close the check book. Even the Lions made some improvements today!! Now I know this all sounds really negative but trust me I am and always will be a die hard Rams fan. The fustration of being the laughing stock of the NFL for so many years and now in a year I think we might actually attempt to grab a good free agent or two the Rams once again show their commitment to staying a subpar team and pocket as much cash as possible.

by Dub3g on Mar 5, 2010 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

Your right

Maybe we can drop to the college level with our team full of 6th, 7th and undrafted diamonds in the rough. I bet BAMA would be ranked higher than us.

by FightingAmish on Mar 5, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions  

This is exactly how I feel...

As stated in a previous post…

This is why the Rams suck, because we don’t go for the gold, we settle for the second rate players. Deavaney has been watching too many Disney movies. This ain’t the Little Giants or the Mighty Ducks, Devaney! You don’t put together a team of no names and coach them up an make them champions! That might be a tear jerker in Hollywood and become a classic but this ain’t Hollywood. This is the NFL. You get the BEST available talent and you win! Get a grip front office. Would it kill them to actually sign a star? PAY THE MONEY TO GET SOME GOOD TALENT!!

On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz

by RamsMan83 on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions  

We released $30+ million of salary

last year, and we might release a lot more depending on what happens with Bulger and Atogwe. The first pick will get lots of money, but not that much of it is annual salary. Even after we pay all the new draft choices we have $20 million or more of salary available that we aren’t using. Why not spend some of it to get a really good free agent or two? Do we win something by having the lowest payroll?

by andyrose on Mar 5, 2010 10:55 PM CST reply actions  

How about we judge the free agency period when it's over, not when it's 48 hours old?

I want them to do something too. But not something in a panic and not something shortsighted.

I don’t know, all this talk is like the guys that scream “We suck, we’re going to lose!” in the second quarter. Now we have lost a lof games but I for one and glad the Rams players don’t talk-think-act like that and I wish you guys would let the game play out a little before deciding they did poorly.

We’re not trying to beat the dumb Skins or Raiders at spending. We’re trying to build a long term winner.

by CoachConnors on Mar 5, 2010 10:59 PM CST reply actions  

We all know the Rams have more holes on the current team

than they can fill in this draft. We have plenty of freed up salary. Wouldn’t it make sense to add a player or two in free agency who can start and plug one or two of the many holes on our team? I don’t think we have to fill them all through the draft. Last year we plugged a couple of the holes through free agency and it seemed to work well.

I’m not upset that they didn’t sign Peppers. His price is ridiculous. However, we talk about needing a solid backup at RB, but we let Chester Taylor go to the Bears. We talk about lots of needs, but we haven’t filled any of them this year. If Kampman goes to Seattle, there really aren’t any solid DE left in FA. Are there any true free agents out there still that could fill one of the holes on our team and really help us? Who are they? I would like to start a watch on them and see if we even make a run at getting one of them.

by andyrose on Mar 6, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions  

Its all about drafting

I agree the rams are terrible and im sick of it. But the rams aren’t terrible because they dont spend money in free agency. They suck because of many years of probably the worst drafting in the leage. Now that we have a new front office we have to give them some time and hopefully we will start drafting better. Signing one or two big money players isn’t going to magically turn us in to a winning football team. With so many holes to fill I think its best to be patient this year and spread your money out through many good players. But if we start drafting good thats the key. If you look at the better teams in the league their nucleous is from the draft.

by stolly on Mar 5, 2010 11:25 PM CST reply actions  

I realize it's a waiting game

and I’m not asking for the Rams to dump all their cash into the free agent pool, but I thought it would be nice to see the Rams grab at least someone in free agency with a history of being a game changer. The Feeley signing was like a slap to the face. There is a reason he has been a career back up. It seems like the Rams are willing to settle for a bunch of bottom level talent rather than being agressive and trying to get a couple cream of the crop type players. Filling the team up with a bunch of medium (at best) grade players does nothing but keep the fans from the enjoyment of a winning/playoff season for even more years to come. So say what you want about waiting until it’s all said and done, but I for one am getting impatient waiting for the Rams to take action. I was hoping this year the Rams would actually try to upgrade a position rather than try to find a bunch of back ups for players that shouldn’t be NFL starters anyway. But as the clock keeps ticking all we can do is hope that some time soon they will sign someone that will be an upgrade and help us get out of the basement of the NFL

by Dub3g on Mar 5, 2010 11:26 PM CST reply actions  

Free agency just started and theres still a lot of good players left. We signd jay feely to be a backup so i dont see why thats a problem. I’m with you though they need to sign some good players. Anquan boldin would have been real nice. Most of the other guys that signed i dont think they really fit our drastic needs.

by stolly on Mar 5, 2010 11:38 PM CST reply actions  

Dub3G I agree with you 100%

It’s hard being patient when our division rivals are thriving to become better and we’re bringing in 3rd string qbs!!! If we’re not going to make a play for some of the big name free agents, then why not sign our own guys? I’m going to be so damn pissed if we let OJ sign with another team and don’t get ANYTHING in return as compensation!!! We won 14 games in 4 seasons!!! Oh and what the heck does AJ Feely do for us in the future?!?! I can’t imagine he’s apart of our rebuilding plan. We haven’t even gotten to the draft and I feel like we already have an 0-10 start to the new season.

Does ANYONE know of any free agents the Rams are bringing in for a meeting? Give us loyal fans some kind of hope with at least setting up a meeting with some Free Agents!!!

by revrue914 on Mar 5, 2010 11:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

Its not about tellling us anything, its about competing with other teams

1. You didn’t hear about Feely until right before it happened.
2. You can be sure they are talking with other players they’re intersted in
3. The less people who know about it, the better from a buriness/competitive standpoint

Didn’t Devaney do well in the trade that brought us a 5th round pick and good young WR Gibson? The Eagles got an older LB that they released — that’s it.

They signed some excellent free agents last year, our starting Center is very good.

Keep the faith, Rams fans

by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions  

For one OJ isnt going anywhere. Im not 100 percent sure how this tendering thing works. But we owed him a lot of money next year so we tendered him and the lowest tender. we will have the option of matching any offer another team offers him. Theyre not gonna let him go thayre just trying to save some money. Enough about the feely thing. They signed him because they want a veteran to help groom a young quaterback. Hell be our second or third qb.

by stolly on Mar 5, 2010 11:59 PM CST reply actions  

I agree

Although I don’t know why they got a guy who will have played in less games than the rookie if the rookie plays all season long.

by Carneros on Mar 6, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree to

I would have rather seen someone that has had more starts under his belt. He was just never really that good. Maybe hes a student of the game or something i dont know about

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 12:14 AM CST reply actions  

If he turns out the be QB3, he fits with those stats

Never know. If they draft a QB, he might not even be the 2nd guy

by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 12:19 AM CST up reply actions  

qb3

I hope they draft bradford and drop boller and bulger because they are both worthless. So we would have bradford 1 null 2 and feely3.

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 12:21 AM CST reply actions  

I think you'll see Bulger isn't worthless

He has a lot fo guts and didn’t have a lot of talent around him. If he doesn’t play for the Rams he may well go back to having a very nice game.

by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I've never liked his attitude as a QB.

I don’t disagree that he was willing to face pressure well, nor that he didn’t have a lot of help, especially from the OL. However, I don’t think he’s led well in the face of adversity. I’ve seen a lot of selfishness out of him on the field, and I don’t think he’ll adapt at all to becoming a backup.

by etp_stl on Mar 6, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Really? When was he selfish?

Not saying you’re wrong…I’d just like to hear when and what that was about.

by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

confused

I dont understand that either. I always thought he was a class act on and off the field.

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 1:18 AM CST up reply actions  

That's they way coach and GM talked about him

I really haven’t heard a lot of negative from the people he plays with, and for.

by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 1:20 AM CST up reply actions  

draft

who do you think the rams should draft

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it's more likely to be ....

at the beginning of the year:
1) Feely
2) Bradford
3) Null

at the end of the year:
1) Bradford
2) Feely
3) Null

by etp_stl on Mar 6, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

upgrade at tackle

If we draft bradford like i think we will I think we need to let barron go and upgrade at that position to protect the young qb

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 12:31 AM CST reply actions  

bulger

I agree with you on the bulger thing hes washed up here but maybe all he needs is a change of scenery. It deffinitely isnt all his fault he sucked so bad nobody could play with that line. I think hes done here though There is absolutely no way in hell jay felly starts over bradford at any point in the season

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 12:36 AM CST reply actions  

talk

someone talk to me please

by stolly on Mar 6, 2010 1:28 AM CST reply actions  

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