More McNabb to the Rams talk
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 4, 2010 1:51 PM CST
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PrintOh boy, today brings more talk that the St. Louis Rams will make an attempt to acquire Eagles QB Donovan McNabb...and more news that the Eagles will not trade him
First, as pointed out by Reading Ram in this fanpost, rumors have surfaced that McNabb will be a Ram by Friday. The report at Rotoworld, expressing considerable disbelief, says that it would be for the Rams first pick of the second round. That's where I tend to get skeptical of this rumor.
That's a valuable piece of real estate for the Rams in this draft. If they keep it, they can get a real quality player, or they could trade it for maximum value (like more picks) when teams break for the night after the first round of the draft. A team that's been making every effort to bring in young talent surely wouldn't surrender one of their most valuable picks for a 33-year-old QB who has played 16 games just once in the last six years. If they opt to pass on a QB with their first round pick, they'd be likely to bring in a free agent, lower valued trade or bring back Bulger. Then there's this from the Rotoworld report:
For the Rams to part with a high pick, they'd need McNabb to agree to an extension. It's likely that the 33-year-old would balk at a long-term deal with a team so far removed from playoff contention.
Whether you'd like to see McNabb in a Rams uni or not, this just wouldn't be a sound move for the team.
Of course, maybe there's nothing to it as a later report says that the Eagles are refusing offers for McNabb.
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this just can't be right
if the rams trade for a the #33 pick in the draft for a 33 year old quarterback who A) has sucked recently and B) has more injury concerns than i can remember, it would be another terrible move in a long history of terrible moves for the team. now, i can see them bringing him in for MAYBE a fourth rounder, but to think of trading the second pick is just plain stupid.
on another topic, how serious are the rams about bringing back bulger? i seem to remember tackle box saying he might just retire because he’s very hurt, but i don’t remember hearing anything else about it. tackle box, you got any new news?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 4, 2010 1:56 PM CST reply actions
McNabb is still a solid QB in the NFL. If no one has noticed, the Eagles have made the playoffs almost every season since he joined the NFL. If the Rams add McNabb for the second round, and then use a third round for Boldin http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Cardinals-want-third-round-pick-for-Boldin?urn=nfl,225755
then the Rams could make a drastic stride for next year. An offense with McNabb, Jackson, and Boldin. That is a very solid core to build around.
a solid core to build around?
those guys are all not as young as they once were. mcnabb is THIRTY THREE years old. i don’t think any team should be “building” around a 33 year old quarterback. and if they were to receive boldin, both the rams second and third round picks would be gone, leaving them with only one premium pick in the draft. for a team with as much holes as we have, that just isn’t smart football business.
as for mcnabb making the playoffs, that doesn’t mean anything to me. in all those seasons he’s made the playoffs, they’ve won exactly 0 super bowls and been to only 1. not exactly the guy i want under center.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 4, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
Mcnabb v Bulger v Null v free agent?
im taking mcnabb, in all the years philly has made it they have always seemed to be missing that one piece, mcnabb may get injured but if hes healthy its still a top 10 QB in this league
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if you really think he's a top 10 quarterback i can't really fix that problem
but it isn’t really about mcnabb v bulger v null. if the teams was out to win in 2010 it would be, but the rams aren’t going to win in 2010. so the management must look towards the future. and i’ll take the 2010 #33 pick in three years over the 36 year old mcnabb.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 4, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
McNabb NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
I can’t stree this enough we need to get younger and stronger. Our second round pick this year is very valuble …this is a very deep draft. McNabb would be very unhappy here he wants a ring.
Chris
Im not against McNabb
But that price is too steep. If we were to trade our 2nd rounder for McNabb, I would have to think Spags is trying to help the Eagles more than the Rams. We didn’t get enough in the Spoon trade, we let them have Mallett, and we’ll give up too much here. If this goes through I’ll seriously have to question where his allegiance lies.
I agree. If he wants 5yr/50 million, he wont get it anywhere in the NFL. But if we could get him for 2yr opt 3yr for around 30 million I would pull the trigger. Keeps fans in the seats with a few wins while our stud rookie learns the NFL and our system. He will never come to Stl but, it was a good suggestion and I think management is looking in the right direction. Old man to help coach the “green pea” into stardom.
NO
While I’d love McNabb on the Rams roster, we are looking at a 1 year deal. In 2011 the players will be locked out so why on earth would you invest a 2nd round pick for a guy to play for your team for one season when you aren’t anywhere NEAR competing for the playoffs?
You people are crazy!
Mcnabb and Boldin for a second and third, sure where do I sign up? Not to burst anyone’s bubble but, Mcnabb would be a great stop gap for the next few years and to help develop next years high draft pick rookie QB. He is a veteran signal caller with a good arm, good feet and decent decision making skills. You can back all of that up with his numbers. Dan Marino, who many consider the best QB ever to play the game never won the big one, Chris and NickG. Add Boldin and Jackson and you already have a team that is capable of 6-7 wins in my opinion. Oh no! We may not be able to pick up a rookie QB or a linebacker but, we get Boldin and Mcnabb. It’s something like 53% of all of the draft picks are out of the league in 5 years. So you tell me what is the smarter move, proven good starters or flip the coin?
but we're not in the business of winning 6-7 games next year
we’re in the business of winning a championship in 3-4 years. giving up part of the future in order to win 6-7 games in 2010 isn’t a good move.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 4, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
Giving up the future?!
What future? Now Mcnabb wouldn’t come to the Rams but, if he did he would be a great stop-gap. 4000 yards and 25-35 tds a season? Yeah that probably wouldn’t help. You want to throw a rookie QB to the Wolves with no mentor, an injury prone offensive line and the worst receiving core in the game? Sounds like a future to me. The percentage of first year QB’s that make it is very bleak without any coaching/mentoring before becoming a starter. For every Matt Ryan I will give you 50 Ryan Leaf’s. Now the correct way to fix our QB quandary would be to use the Packers development of Aaron Rodgers as a model. Have a capable vet taking the snaps and improving our team while the rookie holds the clipboard and learns the NFL. That’s a real 3 year plan.
McNabb wouldn't be bringing all those stats with him because the Rams don't have nearly the receiving weapons the Eagles have
And they play like it. I agree Rogers is a great example of how to bring along your new QB.
weapons
who did Mcnabb have before jackson and maclin
Westbrook for one
And a hell of a better line for 5 more.
by CoachConnors on Mar 6, 2010 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
This was kind of the Bolden and Mcnabb scenario. However I remember when he was putting up those kind of stats with Pinkston and Thrash. What happened to those guys? This thing would only work with a decent veteran over our rookie QB. Why is no one talking about a 2 year deal with Garcia or acquiring Collins’ drunk a*s? There are a few number 2’s out there that would love to be a starter and a tutor for the Lambs.
I bleed green
Please guys!! I live in Philadelphia and the Eagles are my life, please take McNabb from us, he’s been here wayyy to long.
Mortensen of ESPN
said yesterday McNabb would never agree to come to the Rams. Since he only has one year remaining on his contract he can control that. He would just tell the Rams he won’t play without a new contract, and that new contract would include a $50 million signing bonus, plus $10 million per year or more in annual salary on a long term contract. The Rams would never pay that, and he wouldn’t come here without it. He thinks McNabb wants to go to the Vikings if Favre retires, or to another winning team like that and will block any trades to a losing team. I think this rumor is just more of the silly season stuff.
Get it done.
McNabb would be great in St. Louis.This is why I like the deal
1. He plays under the same offensive system 2. A Pro Bowler QB 3. Better than Bradford or Clausen 4 A stop gap for QB intill next years draft. 5 And if the Rams win next year(Dolphins 2008) Then maybe he’ll stay in St.Louis for another year or two after 2010.
I know he has had injury problems and is 33 years old but It lets us take Suh with the first pick. Mybe I just like him because I’m a big Syracuse fan, but I would love to see McNabb in a Rams uniform next year.
Not really the same offensive system
The Rams use SJ as, well, a battering Ram. They lean heavily on his brute running.
Philly is very West Coast, relying on passing to setup the run. They have no one of SJ’s skillset, just as the Rams don’t have a Westbrook type.
I wonder if McNabb will last another 2 years, which is what they’d need if they wanted to draft a QB next year and bring him along the right way. Maybe he would. Maybe not. He has a lingering back issue.
Rather than Trade for McNab
Offer the Eagles the rams 2nd Rd Pick and swap places in the first round for Kevin Kolb…
Eagles end up with a pretty good return investment in Kolb, Kolb gets to start in the NFL, and the Rams get a QB to build around and still have draft picks to be able to build with.
Some people are like slinkies. They don't really serve a purpose but they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.
Why would McNabb play on a 1-15 team
McNabb playin for super bowl rings not on bottom feeder team like the Rams.
mcnabb to rams
surely the combination of mcnabb and suh is better than bradford and whoever the rams acquire with the 2nd round pick. it has also been reported that the rams would get a 3rd or 4th rd pick in addition to mcnabb. draft picks are a crapshoot, and to give bradford a lot of guaranteed money would be a mistake. at least with mcnabb, you know more or less what you’d be getting. there may be many out there who think mcnabb is not good, but he is surely better than anyone else the rams trot out there with. and bradford may be better, but he may also be worse. of course, if mcnabb doesn’t want to come to the rams, then it is all a mute point anyhow.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch,
which printed the Burwell column about McNabb, published a “correction” today. They said it was an editorial error and that the column should have stated the Rams have not talked with the Eagles about McNabb. Of course they buried the “correction” on page A2, far from the sports page and in small type.
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