Word of Caution: The Pro Day
Mike Mayock, love him or hate him, had a good reminder of just how much the pro day should be worth when drafting, in this case, especially for quarterbacks. We've heard a lot about how Sam Bradford's Pro Day was so good, he might just skip the Rams altogether. But what Mayock had to say stood out at me:
The best Pro Day I ever saw as a quarterback was JaMarcus Russell... I've never seen a quarterback throw the football like that in my life, but I still couldn't take him in the first round -- the guy doesn't care about football. He doesn't have the passion for the game, doesn't have the work ethic, I don't want him. But by the way, it was a pretty impressive Pro Day.
Now, don't get me wrong. In no way am I comparing Sam Bradford to JaMarcus Russell. Sam Bradford is no slouch, but the fact remains: don't get caught up in the Pro Day hype. There's been a lot of hype going around lately and Sam Bradford has been getting his fair share. But like the people of reason have been saying, don't put too much faith into 50 or 60 choreographed throws while he's in shorts with no opposition. This goes for anyone- workout warriors are great a working out, and most of the time, only that.
And if for some reason you aren't feeling Bradford right now, there is always that other guy, you know, Jimmy Clausen. People say he has an attitude problem, but he just shrugs it off, because:
I [Jimmy Clausen] am -- a loving, caring person
If he doesn't work out, there's always Colt McCoy. Or even Tim Tebow. Wouldn't that be something.
Enjoy Wednesday everyone!
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Colt had a hell of a pro day too
He knows what he can do, and he rarely tries to go beyond that. Good showing for him.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
Did he?
I didn’t read up on him yet. Any video?
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
Haven't found any yet
Here’s McShay’s take:
AUSTIN, Texas — If Brett Favre were to run a pro day workout, chances are it would unfold much like Colt McCoy’s on-campus showcase did. McCoy was loose and comfortable, high-fiving his college teammates and generally having fun, and he is clearly not buying into the pressure of the draft process.
The large group of media, scouts and other NFL team personnel in attendance saw some positives on the field as well. McCoy showed pinpoint timing and accuracy on short throws and led his receivers well in those situations. He also looked good throwing fade routes and other touch passes that allowed him to put some air under the ball and let his receivers run under it. McCoy was also very accurate throwing on the run to both his left and right.
There were some negatives as well, particularly McCoy’s inaccuracy on intermediate throws. The ball fluttered and was a bit off-target when he had to put zip on deep in routes, deep out routes and comeback routes. His is not nearly as polished on those throws, because he seems to gear up and overcompensate when trying to push the ball down the field, and that is the biggest difference right now between McCoy and Sam Bradford.
And don’t forget, McCoy is only 6-foot-1. His height was obviously not a problem during his pro day, but it is something to consider. Add that limitation to his struggles on deeper throws and his problems when trying to anticipate breaks and passing windows, and McCoy’s best fit is clearly in a West Coast offense that will mask his weaknesses and maximize his quickness and ability to move within and outside the pocket when the play breaks down.
Overall it was a good day for McCoy, and there are certainly plenty of teams that like his skill set. His reputation as the ultimate leader and a guy who loves the game carries a lot of weight as well. After studying plenty of film we do not project him in the first two rounds, but taking into account his intangibles and ability to fit into systems similar to those run in New Orleans, Washington and Philadelphia, McCoy will likely come off the board higher than his grade would indicate.
We’re not saying McCoy will become the next Drew Brees, but he can certainly be successful in the right system under the right coach. His pro day went well on the whole, and the six private workouts he has scheduled in Austin — including one with St. Louis — and the handful of team visits he has scheduled give him plenty more chances to solidify his stock and lock down his status.
Mike Mayock:
I think the most important factor was that he showed he was healthy. He throws the ball deep, he throws it intermediate, and he has excellent deep touch and accuracy.
I loved his footwork. I knew he was a great athlete, so he has great mobility. He’s smart and tough — you can see that off tape. The most important thing I saw was his ability to drive in intermediate routes — both the in-breaking big route and the comeback route. He showed he can do that. I think he’s a solid second-round pick.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 31, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
McCoy's Pro Day was better than Bradfords
According to Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy
Green Bay coach Mike McCarthy was in Norman, Okla., on Monday when [Sam] Bradford completed 62 of 63 passes. He was in Austin on Wednesday. How did he compare the two workouts? I like this workout better"
(It’s a short piece, here)
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Apr 1, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
He liked the workout better
because it included more of the type of passes he wanted to see. He didn’t say McCoy looked better than Bradford. There’s a difference.
Local write-ups
Austin American-Statesman
San Antonio Express News
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 31, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Try this
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 31, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Second String at best
Mccoy is bust material.I f Rams dont draft Bradford they better steer clear of Colt.
I agree that pro days are probably overrated...
same with other metrics like the wonderlic. I think both, for example, are important but too much emphasis shouldn’t be put on either one.
That being said – the thing that made Bradford and McCoy’s pro days have a little more weight than normal was that they were coming off of injury so it was important to make the throws and put return from injury questions to rest (or at least to simmer them).
Free Brandon Wood!
Good point. They both showed they have recovered from the injury.
That’s an important point for them.
Sure, but
do you really think either of them would have thrown if they weren’t entirely confident that they could show they were over their injuries?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
Probably not...
but it still remained the 1st time scouts had an opportunity to view it since injury. And good for them that they were able to or else they would be nowhere near being discussed at the draft spots they are now.
Free Brandon Wood!
If the Rams were to pick Colt Mc Coy...
…where would they likely pick him and what would they do with the #1 pick? I think he could be got at the top of the 3rd round. And if they do pick him then does that mean Feely is going to project as the starter next season?
If the Rams trade the #1 pick with Washington (#4), they would probably get Washington’s 2nd round pick too. Would it then make sense to try to move further back in the 1st round and add more 2nd and 3rd round picks? Maybe someone like Miami would be interested in moving up from #12 to #4 to try to grab Suh or McCoy (the DT)?
If the Rams did trade down to #4
and Suh was there when their turn came, they would risk a major rebellion if they didn’t take him. Trading down to add a second round pick and still getting Suh would be pretty spectacular.

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