Will he or won't he? Bradford contract speculation picks up steam
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 30, 2010 6:46 AM CDT
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PrintIt's all Sam Bradford, all day today. In addition to the rave reviews of his workout, rumors that the quarterback will not sign prior to the draft (or that he won't play for the St. Louis Rams who seem likely to grab him with the top pick) are catching on among the chattering classes. There's a pretty powerful media market feeding that speculation with the Washington Redskins said to be very interested in Braford's services as well.
In Jason Reid's Redskins Insider column from the Washington Post today, he explores the possibility of the Redskins making a move for Bradford as well as the circumstances that could allow that to happen, i.e. if he refused to play for the Rams or willing to pull a move similar to what JaMarcus Russell did. From Reid:
We've been talking with sources around the league about the draft for several weeks and two things are clear: The Redskins are very high on Bradford, and they might have to get creative in order to get him.
He then discusses what might make such a trade possible.
But there are certainly scenarios in which the Rams would want to listen to offers. There are some who believe Bradford might prefer to play for Washington rather than St. Louis. With the Redskins, he'd be able to sit behind Jason Campbell for a year and learn the system, he'd play for Mike Shanahan, as respected an offensive mind as any today, and offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, who last season held the keys to the league's top-ranked passing attack. St. Louis might not hold as much long-term promise for a young quarterback.
There have been no intimations yet from Bradford's camp that he would be unwilling to play in St. Louis or even that he would prefer Washington. Of course, the way Dan Snyder spends money, who wouldn't at least want to hear what Washington has to offer. It's early enough that Bradford could still say no to the Rams, even though both sides have started very preliminary talks, but as I said last night, it flies in the face of the image being carefully cultivated by Bradford and his camp.
Regardless of the reality of the situation surrounding Bradford, the Rams and his status as a likely first overall pick, don't expect this kind of talk to go away any time soon.
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Considering Bradford’s agent Tom Condon is BASED in St. Louis, I would doubt that Bradford is going to pull and Elway/Eli Manning on St. Louis.
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Whatever it’s worth, John Clayton said today Mike & Mike that it’s unlikely that Bradford will be signed before the draft. It won’t, however, deter St. Louis from taking him.
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by Dan Kadar on Mar 30, 2010 8:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Any evidence?
Any reason that multiple people are doubting that Bradford will get a deal done before the draft?
Is it his demands? His Agent? (Tom Condon) Other reasons?
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if the Rams aren't having a private workout until April 19
that would make a deal hard to reach by the draft. it’s quite possible too that the front office wants to see what kind of trade offers they can get. if WAS wants to move up and if Devaney et al like Clausen as much as Bradford then they might see the possibility of a trade as a win-win, esp. since the cost of drafting a QB at #4 is significantly lower than at #1.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 30, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for talking sense.
Yes, I actually wore a watermelon on my head during the Rams SuperBowl victory in 2000.
by Midasknight on Mar 30, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
league sources
If you didnt know, when someone cites “league sources” as a basis for their story… that means they don’t have any basis for their story. Old j- school manuever. The more ambigous the source, the less chance of the story being true.
2 points
- - we have a last minute private workout scheduled with him on the 19th. This is just three days before the draft. This makes it easy for some to assume he won’t be signed before the draft since there are only three days to work with. That makes it easy to speculate/start rumors.
- - this is the silliness season. He had a good workout, so it makes sense for some other teams to make the Rams nervous and say he’ll holdout, hoping to make a trade easier – or making us pass.
Let’s just hope they are truly just rumors.
Washington media market
the washington media market will push this story, and push it hard.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 30, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions
So Bradford may not want to play for St Louis eh?
He must have talked to edpjr
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Bradford looks like Ryan Leaf
when you look into his eyes. Bradford is too cocky and arrogant for his own good.
If the Rams go with Clausen or Suh...
Will Bradford tell the Rams that they will regret not picking him?
personnaly, I don't select players with previous college injuries of concern
like shoulders on qb’s, kness on running backs and linemen, etc…
Suh has had 2 surgeries already on his knees I believe.
I would take Okung, McCoy, Berry or Suh (I am concerned with Suh’s surgeries)
What exactly concerns you about Suh?
He had one surgery as far as I know, but that’s not important. What is important is he has not missed a game since he’s come back. That, IMO, says the surgery went well and he’s been dependable enough for it to be a non issue. Tho none of this matters since we are going QB in rnd 1….
Why is it you think you are so knowledgable
that you put up four posts in a row and five of the last six? Give it a rest.
“personally, I don’t select players”. And have you really selected players for NFL teams? For which NFL team did you act as GM and actually make the picks? If the answer is none, why would you word it as you did, and why should we care?
Hmmm, I never meant to hurt your feelings
Why do you put words into a discussion that are irrational?
I fantasy pick, what about you?
Why should we care who you pick in fantasy leagues?
We’re trying to talk about what the Rams might do in real life. Your comments are not adding anything worthwhile to the discussion.
Is it me or
does he look a bit like Jim Plunkett?
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so i got a question.....
if we trade picks with the redskins who do we take with the number 4 pick? assuming detroit takes Suh and tampa takes McCoy who does that leave us with? Clausen or do we maybe take a shot at Berry? im not sure if Clausen was worth the number 4 overall and if we resign Togs we really wont have a need for safety so what do you guys think would be the best bet???
At 4 we take Okung or Clausen
… or even reach for Derrick Morgan or Bryan Bulaga. … but probably Okung or Clausen.
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by Midasknight on Mar 30, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this route if we trade down as well
We hopefully gain a pick of use from this and get a QB. Maybe Devaney works a package deal to trade up in rnd 1 twice?! If we get Bradford I’d be happy as well.
If we switch with the Redskins
We had better get something like their 1st and 2nd picks plus Jason Campbell and a good pick for next years draft out of the deal.
Should we pull that off, lets trade again with someone like the Browns, the #4 overall for their 1st and a 3rd round pick. That 4th spot will look attractive to someone when you consider at least 2 of Okung, McCoy, Suh, Berry and Clausen will there.
Who is to say...
if the Rams deal with the Skins (and get Campbell) that they wouldn’t deal out of the 4 spot? This team could use some cheaper talent and lots of it!
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by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Mar 30, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds farfetched but...
…if we trade with Washington, we might end up with Suh afterall. Detroit is looking long and hard at Okung because of the Stafford investment (the guy got mauled last year). In Tampa Bay, many people are saying that Gerald McCoy is a better fit for their defense. I’d pull the trigger with some extra picks. At worst, we’d end up with Okung or Berry. That doesn’t sound too bad to me considering the need at tackle and the potential need at safety.
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by TrojanRam on Mar 30, 2010 4:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If you guys...
pass on this kid. It will be the dumbest move of all time.
Call me Red or IBR for short
Okay... I've thought about it.
A. If Bradford is ready to pull an Eli Manning, then Devaney should sniff it out. I trust Devaney to be intuitive enough when Bradford visits Rams Park to see which way he’s leaning.
B. If Bradford is yearning to play for the Redskins, then we should bend them over and stick it to them, Zed and Marcellus Wallace-style. Multiple picks and maybe a player (carlos rodgers would be nice).
C. What the hell is more attractive about being the QB in Washington than StL? In the list of pros and cons between the two jobs, what about DC is trumping the Rams? Shanahan’s not worth his weight in White Rain hairspray.
D. If the kid’s worried about money, does he know that 1st overall picks are prone to more benjamins than the 5th overall?
F. Why are these jerks making this a story the day after his pro-day? Wouldn’t have Bradford known in December if he didn’t want to end up in StL? Does the NFL want Bradford in DC more than StL? Chris Mortenson keeps citing “NFL sources”, not “Redskins” sources..
G. It’s looking like we should’ve pulled the trigger on McNabb/Kolb, and we might have avoided some drama.
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by mooseknuckles41 on Mar 30, 2010 10:54 PM CDT reply actions
This is all just noise from the talking heads.
Bradford’s pro day is over and he looked great. Nothing exciting for them to talk about there any longer. So let’s make up another couple of stories so we have something to talk about. Maybe say Bradford won’t sign with St. Louis. Or say Kahn won’t get approved as the new owner, so the Rams are in trouble. Anything to have something to talk about and get some attention. That’s all any of this amounts to.
If the Rams think they have a legit shot a trade with the Skins
They may need to talk up how great Bradford is, to help the Skins come to the conclusion they need him at #1. I would anyway. Can’t hurt anything.
I personally don’t put a whole lot of stock into the idea Bradford wouldn’t play for the Rams, for a lot of reasons.
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