Rams head coach likes DT Gerald McCoy with the first pick
by VanRam on Mar 3, 2010 10:16 AM CST
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Suh, Bradford. Bradford, Suh. Even though there are four potential players in the mix for the St. Louis Rams' first overall pick, the conversation has mostly turned on whether or not the choice will be QB Sam Bradford or DT Ndamukong Suh. Scratch that. We've got a whole new rumor to add to the mix today.
John Czarnecki at Fox Sports said today that if it were up to head coach Steve Spagnuolo, the Rams would pick Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy.
If the draft was today, the Rams would select Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy because he is the player that head coach Steve Spagnuolo likes better. Fortunately for Rams fans who want a quarterback after passing on Matt Ryan and Mark Sanchez the past two Aprils, the team has seven weeks to change Spags’ mind.
I don't know about you, but my doctor is really worried about my sodium count with all the Rams draft and trade rumors lately. If it's true that Spags' likes McCoy best, it should come as no surprise. McCoy seems to fit more into the mold of a versatile defensive lineman that can play end as well as tackle, though there's plenty of debate out there that Suh and McCoy can each do both.
It's also worth noting that Spagnuolo is just one voice in the Rams draft brain trust. And the team also gets a huge benefit from keeping the waters muddy about which player they will pick first overall next month.
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The bench press rep was not so good
Did McCoy struggle or just not “push-it”? Anyhow, when you count leg strength, weight, etc… is there a difference in “Pushing power” as a lineman between McCoy and Suh? Afterall, linemen usually don’t benchpress other linemen out of the way – they bull doze them or move them. The arms are not solely responsible for this action – the whole body is.
Judging by play – McCoy seems more consistent and fills a bigger gap. This is a good unsurety to have between these two DT’s.
What stats exist...
that say the McCoy is more consistent? From everything I’ve looked at I don’t see how you can make that statement, but maybe I just haven’t seen something.
Also, how does McCoy fill a bigger gap? They are the same size and in the scheme Suh played in, he was asked to control the line and make a play at the QB only when he had a chance. McCoy was asked to pressure the QB as a gap rushing DT.
I believe I heard the NFL channel guys say "McCoy said he's not a rep guy"
Meaning he worked on other things in the wieght room, not trying to max rep out at 225.
Which is a legitimate excuse, if he was working on other things. I really don’t know if he was or what it was if he did. Coulda been max weight (1 rep and most pounds) or sets of reps at a lighter weight.
I have
absolutely no idea who to believe anymore. We got people who have heard from people who know people allegedly connected to the organization. Now its coming from “spags”. Maybe I’m just paying more attention now b/c the rams have the first pick, but it seems this year has been the worst for outrageous speculation.
yeah, kinda!
More fun than drafting 23rd. for all those guys wishing the Rams would get more media attention: here you are.
by CoachConnors on Mar 3, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
If anything, I say this points us closer at Suh
This sounds like normal posturing, oh Mr. Suh, you think your the best player out there, and we should pay you accordingly? Well, we actually like McCoy better, of course maybe if our negotiations are amicable, then we can talk some business.
How does he know what Spags thinks??
Did he interview him? Where’s the quote saying so? Pure trash to me. Unless I see some quotes then held just going off of speculation. Wouldn’t be surprised since ESPN is getting all the attention and nobody cares what Fox Sports has to say…
On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz
by RamsMan83 on Mar 3, 2010 11:03 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Good point, the linked article doesn't cite any source for this info
This could be a Burwellian attempt at getting clicks for all we know.
by CoachConnors on Mar 3, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
it's sort of like Burwell's assertion that the rams were ready to trade for McNabb
you can pretty much make any kind of conjecture you want this time of year…silly season as they say
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Schefter-style
He didn’t talk to anyone who has any idea what the Rams are thinking. He didn’t need to…
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 3, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions
saw on espn today...
That McCoy has quite a pedigree of accomplishments. He was Defensive rookie of the year in the big 12 and even was named defensive high school player of the year by USA Today.
There’s something to be said about having hype and talent throughout your career. He is no one-year wonder. But that being said, his combine was pretty disappointing. They made a good point about questionable work ethic only being able to rep 23 times.
I don't think it was disappointing
For a couple of reasons. One, repping at 225 is something a lot of guys do soley for the combine, and we know that McCoy didn’t. That doesn’t mean he didn’t work on other things during his college time. He knows he didn’t need to work at 225 just for the combine because it ultimately won’t really effect his draft spot as a pass rushing DT.
I thought Suh and McCoy were actually just as advertised and neither really one helped or hurt themselves.
A lot of coaches think the jumps and 10 yard dash are the most important drills for linemen
at least as far as the combine goes
There is no chance Spags said anything that would lead
this guy to say McCoy is who he wants. It’s all just lies made up by guys desperate to get someone to read their nonsense. Bernie Milasz intereviewed Spags yestereday after the Combine was over. He started by kidding Spags and asking him if he would give any real answers to Bernie’s questions, or if Bernie was going to need his Spags decoder again. Spags just laughed and said he’d better get the decoder ready.
I heard a real dandy today. WXOS interview the old safety Corey Chavous, who is now shilling for a draft site called Draft Nasty. Every defensive player they asked him about was in his top 20, although he ignored a question about Suh. The real gems came when they asked him about QBs. He said there were no QBs in his top 32, that Lefevour was his top rated QB, and that the QB from South Florida (whose name he didn’t even know) was coming up very fast and was one of his top rated QBs. In many of his answers he sounded like he was out of touch and had no clue. It was almost sad to hear this former star player acting like such a dunce. But it’s a symptom of the silly season when everyone tries to make a name for themself by making some outrageous claim about the draft.
...and really well thought out.
Here’s the poll on their front page, just as it appears.
Should either of the following QBs be considered in the 1st round of the 2010 NFL Draft?
o Sam Bradford
o Neither
o Tim Tebow
o Dan LeFevour
o Jimmy Clausen
o Colt McCoy
Um…neither?
Poor Corey.
He’s listed as the “founder” of the website. Ok, good for him. He was a professional athlete, so you would think he knows athletics. Unfortunately, he does not.
Here is a perfect example of a professional, NFL athlete not knowing the basics of what comprises an athlete. Some guys just can’t believe that an NFL guy doesn’t know his shit, but it’s more common than you think.
For all of you that think being a pro athlete meakes you an unquestioned authority, please see this example. On the front page of his site, he laments Joe Haden’s “pedestrian” 4.5 time in the 40.
He says, “He is a quick twitched athlete…and compares favorably to” CB so and so.
I’d love to ask Corey what quick twitched means, I can only imagine the creative answers.
Fast twitch and slow twitch refer to the specific type of muscle fibers that respond to sprint or marathon types of training. Even better, you develop more of one kind when you work out. Meaning if you do short burst work, you would get more fast twitch fiber, and when you do long endurance type (like marathon) work you get more slow twitch fibers. Simple enough?
The last study I read on it showed couch potatoes…having not developed long endurance, and inclinded to only do physical work in the short term…actually have more fast twitch fiber than slow. Not intuitive at first but makes sense when you think about it.
NFL linemen…yes, they also have more fast twitch muscle fiber because, afterall, it’s all about the burst. When’s the last time you saw a DT running the Boston marathon?
A couch potatoe, Warren Sapp and one of the Kenyan marathoners….could you spot the one who doesn’t belong?
Of course, if you were Corey Chavous, you would not know this.
So he says Joe Haden is a “quick twitched” athlete.
Corey apparently doesn’t know that every single player in the NFL is a fast twitch athlete. Poor guy.
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