Bradford looks comfortable at his pro day workout
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 29, 2010 11:54 AM CDT
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PrintSam Bradford just wrapped his pro day workout in Norman, OK. Will the St. Louis Rams be drafting him first overall now? Obviously, it's way to early for that. Here are my impressions from the workout.
- His throws were sharp, just like you would have expected. Tomahawk missiles should be so accurate.
- He was 50 for 50.
- I can't speak to the punch on his deep throws, but I did not see receivers making adjustments on them and they seemed to be running the pre-programmed routes at game speed.
- No grimaces, no awkward throwing motion, his shoulder was not an issue today.
- How do read a QBs movement and decision making with no pass rushers, etc.? It's gotta be tough. Nevertheless, I was impressed with the throws he made while moving.
Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo came up and talked to Bradford a little bit more right after the workout continued. Reading faces, it didn't look like the follow-up to their breakfast today was just a bunch of post-workout glad handing.
Potential first pick Gerald McCoy was on hand, and was heard to say "King Sam" at one point. Some pundit reaction:
John Hoover, the OU beat writer from the Tulsa World, called two deep balls "brillant" and said he looked "fantastic" and "uncanny."
Here's Chris Lincoln of Tulsa's ABC affiliate:
Sam Bradford was incredible! Threw wide variety of 50 passes on his Pro Day Wait until you hear who NFL veteran Gil Brandt compares him to.
Crews whisked Bradford off following his conversation with Sapgnuolo for a live ESPN standup, in which he revealed that he also has four holes-in-one.
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This all feels to me
that barring a contract negotiation going sour, or some dark secret being revealed, that Bradford is almost officially a Ram. I don’t think that’s a bad thing either. While he wasn’t getting pass-rushed today, all the reports seem to say he was spot-on and enjoying himself. Haven’t seen quite enough of that out of Bulger lately, with or without a line.
I also decided last night that no matter which direction the Rams go in the draft(Bradford, Suh, McCoy, not Berry), it can’t be bad because we’ll be gaining an integral part of our team.
THIS year's the year. I hope....
I sort of feel the same way
I will be fine with Bradford or Clausen or Suh.
Although after McCoy’s combine, I wrote him off my list for attitude and competitiveness.
Put that feeling next to the fact that I already thought he didn’t compare to Suh in many ways….they played against essentially the same competition in college ad Suh dominated that comparison and it wasn’t even close.
In my mind,
1) actual play on the field trumps all.
2) the played against the basically same opponents
3) Suh’s stats dominated McCoys, which is completely pertinent because it was against the same competition.
4) McCoy underpeformed at the combine and didn’t show a willingness to adapt (he said “I’m not a reps guy” on the bench press, and put up much less than McCoy.) Almost as if he decided it was ok to be deficient in some areas just because “that aint him”. Personally, I’m not real high on that…
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Mar 29, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
well, to be fair, there are more variables when it comes to those two
many more dependacies on the QB’s success.
But I do think Keenum and Bradford probably have the potential to be compared in many ways if they played again the same comp. (I don’t know if they did or not, or if their receivers were of close to the same quality, or if they had stability on the Cnter and rest of the OL). If all those things are relatively equal, why are their stats to be ignored?
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Mar 29, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
well as i posted before.....
i took all the games from teams that they both played and the stats turned out to be fairly equal….now i would argue that Bradford had a much better team around him than Keenum did….
Traditional stats are poor qualifiers for football (and baseball)
I completely agree with Coach’s first point – play on the field is more important than a 40 time at the combine or a specific mechanical flaw. Incorporating every facet of gameplay at one’s position is the most important aspect of success.
As for stats, take QBs. Passing yards and TDs are poor barometers for quarterback assessment in general. Many successful pro quarterbacks have had less than stellar college football careers number-wise (i.e. Matt Schaub, Brett Favre). Conversely, and this list is WAY too long to put here, plenty of quarterbacks who rack up phenomenal numbers in college don’t translate to the NFL well.
It’s not that you can’t measure football skill with numbers, we just haven’t nailed it down yet (although Football Outsiders, Advanced NFL Stats and the guys over at Pro FB Reference are doing incredible work)
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 29, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
umm ok....
you say “Many successful pro quarterbacks have had less than stellar college football careers number-wise.” umm but many have lol so this doesnt really prove anything
Sure it does
It proves that there’s little correlation between statistical prowess at the college level and success in running an offense at the NFL. The fact that some successful NFL QBs have had good college careers “by the numbers” and some haven’t shows that those numbers aren’t what separates good QBs from bad ones.
Again, the more important distinction is that tons of college QBs who have put up gaudy numbers have fared horribly in the NFL.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 29, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I interest you in this knife set
or possibly some insurance?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Mar 29, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of....
Someone on here reminds me what it takes to sell insurance…
You need to sell insurance, I’m serious, Edpjr. Your ability to head straight to the negative result could be worth a goldmine in the right industry
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Mar 29, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
My post above should say
" (he said "I’m not a reps guy" on the bench press, and put up much less than SUH.)
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Mar 29, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this comparable to...
Yi Jianlian’s draft workout of performing drills with a chair guarding him? Though Yi has checked out as a serviceable player, unsure he fits the bill of a lottery draft pick.
Good news, please put my doubts in Bradford to rest.
I don't know
But I’m just glad to be on a message board thread that still references the Yi/Chair workout.
by strugglemonkey on Mar 29, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
There is
I would take Clausen
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Mar 29, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
It does appear a qb is #1 overall pick
A HUGE MISTAKE!!!
Whoever above thinks Berry is not worthy for the Rams, I only ask why at this point.
just depends if we sign togs or not...
all signs point to us signing him longterm… so what would be the point of having 3 starting caliber safetys on our roster when we could us it to fill another need
So who does Gil Brandt compare him to?
Wasn’t in the tweet.
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
He said...
that it was the best pro day workout he has seen since Troy Aikman.
He also said at one point (about a month ago I believe) that Bradford is the best prospect he has seen since Peyton Manning. He obviously likes Bradford a lot.
we have a quarter back
I hope .I’m a Bradford supporter nd wouldn’t be disappointed if he was the pick.
Can closed
by CanofRamz on Mar 29, 2010 1:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
i agree....
i live on tinker afb 20 minutes north of Norman and i support Bradford in every way except when it comes to our pick
Would you be disappointed with Clausen?...with Suh?
Not overjoyed if you’re a Bradford guy, I get that.
I have decided I’ll be ok with a couple of different names. Elated with one, ok with a couple.
The blind stares of a million pairs of eyes, lookin hard but won't realize, that they'll never see the C. And when I'm rollin by, you can't see me!
by CoachConnors on Mar 29, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I want Suh....think about it this way....
WE get Suh and automatically we have a very strong defensive unit….we get Bradford and we have a mediocre defensive unit and a mediocre offensive unit and mediocrity doesnt really get the job done in my opinion
Getting Suh does not immediately make us a better unit, we still have linebackers that can be exposed especially if Suh isn’t making an impact, Bradford is a much better pick
Yeah - that and the fact that NO one player
is going to put us in the “strong” category on either side of the ball, considering the rebuilding project we are in the midst of…
Free Brandon Wood!
I believe Gil compared him to Aikman. I watched the OU live feed and I must say Bradford impressed me. Definitely has great velocity and accuracy. I may be turning the corner on picking him. We just need to take it slow and not ruin the guy, throwing him out there with a questionable OL and receiving corp. We need to take Tate or Benn in rd2 if we are making the commitment to Bradford I think.
My life's unique distinction is being one of the very few who bought (and suffered through) Rams season tickets in Anaheim from '86 to '94. Boy, I miss those days.
Well that's just wonderful.
So now we’ll need to draft a WR, TE, and RB too, without any thought to improving our O-line or the D. 31st in the league, I don’t think the addition of a couple of old guys will help much. But it is a passing league now, and I guess we can build the lines and linebackers next year when there is no Suh. But there will be more QB’s available, just not any up to the caliber of Bradford?
So we drop Bulger and start Feeley. And after how many loses does the pressure become enough to start Bradford? Or is the 1st pick of a 1-15 team to sit out all of his rookie year? If we’re not blowing smoke we’re making a big mistake.
I would honestly go for Suh
And try to build up the offensive/defensive lines before getting a QB. I would be worried about Bradford winding up like David Carr.
But if you guys get Bradford, he should wind up becoming a good player, although I don’t know how much better he will be that Sanchez/Stafford stats-wise in his first season.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan.
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad.
Alright I've had enough
I’m ready now for the draft. I’ll just clench my fists and close my eyes and wince. Tell me when it’s over.
If we're taking Bradford, why didn't we do better than Feeley?
I’m assuming Bulger is gone as soon as Bradford comes on so that leaves Feeley as the starter. It’s a little expensive to keep Bulger and still afford one of the highest paid players in the league (Bradford), and get rid of Null. The one thing I’m getting out of this FA for us is that we are going cheap. We may have picked up some old guys for depth but not much more than that and they all came relatively cheap. Might have something to do with the change in ownership?
But, couldn’t we have gotten a better starting QB? Feeley is arguably not even as good as Bulger. And this early in the rebuilding process we can sit our 1st pick for a couple of years? It’s a nice luxury that we can’t afford. While our “franchise” QB sits and learns the game we miss out on improving our trenches. And when Feeley does go down the calls will be for Bradford not Null to show us why he’s worth the money. Very risky, and not just the injury factor. If Bradford bombs, and he is playing on a team with just one win last year, then Devaney and Spags will be looking for new jobs and we’ll be starting all over again. If we don’t get two linemen from our first 3 picks, we’re making a big mistake!
Well if the powers that be should choose Bradford with the first pick i could easily live with that, then i would say we need as good of a back up for SJAX as we can get, other then those 2 offensive picks i wouls go all defense this year and then worry about the rest of the O next year
If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???
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