Will the Rams find any takers for Alex Barron?
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 1, 2010 10:07 AM CST
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PrintThis morning brought some rare news not related to the St. Louis Rams first overall pick in the 2010 NFL Draft. Today, we learned that even though the Rams tendered RFA and former first round pick OT Alex Barron at the first round level, they'll gladly accept a second round pick as compensation should another team be interested in signing him.
The biggest caveat in that is whether or not another team would be willing to sign Barron and surrender a second round pick. It seems highly unlikely. As the original news item suggests, it's not that they expect a taker for the second round pick, it's that they're willing to listen to trade offers. Two questions come to mind:
1. Just what kind of return could the Rams get for Barron? The Eagles gave up a first and fourth rounder for Jason Peters, but Alex Barron is no Jason Peters. Would a third rounder be reasonable? Barron is a former first round pick who can play both OT spots which does make him valuable. Then again, there is that penalty thing, which leads to questions about coaching him. There's probably some team out there that thinks they can get Barron over that hump, but at what cost are they willing to try? A third round pick is probably the highest return to hope for; a fourth round pick is probably the most realistic.
2. If the Rams don't trade Barron, what kind of effect will this have on his relationship with the team and his performance on the field?
I'm all for a trading Barron if it brings a worthwhile return. Devaney does have some leverage here, as the Rams are in no hurry to release Barron since they can keep him (and use him) at a reasonable price. However, they'll have to weigh the offers carefully against who they think they can draft or sign in free agency to replace Barron. Losing Barron and having to start Adam Goldberg at RT probably hurts more than it helps.
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I voted yes but
I don’t know if they could stand a whole season with Goldberg at RT. I reserve the right to change my vote…because if they draft a QB and expect him to play this year, then I would conserve Tackles and keep him.
I just can't see them trading him for less than a 2nd rounder,
since it would leave them very shorthanded at OT. They could probably get a pretty good RT with a 2nd round pick, but I just don’t see going any lower. I think this move makes sense. If they get a 2nd they have done well. If not, they still have Barron and he will have the message that he had better shape up.
If we trade him...
We’ll have to turn that pick into an OT as replacement, since we can’t rely on Goldberg to start. Therefore, would a 3rd round OT be as good as Alex Barron?
We’d move Smith to LT, meaning we’d need a RT. This is a deep OT draft, so I think we could find a replacement in the 2nd round for a RT. A third or fourth rounder probably wouldn’t be better than Barron right away. Perhaps a year or two down the road.
I'd love a 2nd rounder
In time, Barron will be gone anyway; I’d rather at least get something for him before then.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
there's some OT talent in this draft
and since you’re talking about a RT, that puts more second day picks into play
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LSU’s Ciron Black. He was LT at LSU, but probably not quick enough for the blind side in the NFL.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
there's also the Ulatoski guy from Texas that's coming from that similar
LT to RT situation
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 1, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
Black is definitely too slow to play OT
on either side. However, I was listening to an interview where he said that he has been talked to by advisors that said he would have success at an OG postion and have a better chance to get drafted earlier because of that. He said that it will take some getting used to, but he is comfortable with making that change. In fact, he said he enjoyed his time practicing the position at the senior bowl and feels that he can be successful at it. I liked that attitude. Seeing him play for the last four years, I was dead set that this guy would struggle at OT in the NFL, but after listening to that and going back and watching some clips, the guy has the perfect make-up to play inside as well as the knowledge to play OT should he need to fill in for an injured starter.
"Shorter" arms at 33", but his write up says he has the quickness to play the right side
I thought Phil Loadholt was too slow to play T but so far he’s been able to start in MN.
Black doesn’t show up on any of the Top Performers list (did he go yet?) but here is his profile with measurments. And Ulatoski.
Not to make too much of this, but short arms were what they blamed Robert Gallery’s inability to play OT, and he has done pretty well at G. Some of the top OT’s have arms 36"+ (including Bruce Campbell and Russell Okung….although Anthony Davis is only 34". Iupati is a G with 34 3/4")
We haven't taked much about the Rams using the draft's supposed depth to fill spots like OT and DT
especially DT. Almost all the talk is Suh/McCoy but if the draft is truly deep at DT, wouldn’t that help tip the scales toward QB at #1?
I heard an interview today with Don Banks who said some blatantly stupid things, but one thing that stuck with me is he said he talked to Devaney who had this to say:
“I think if it’s close, you have to go QB”
Meaning if it’s close between their overall valuation of the QB’s and DT’s. I hadn’t heard that definitive a statement from Devaney till now. Or maybe someone here already reported it and I just missed it.
it's much easier to make a viable starter out of a 3rd round DT
than it is a 3rd round QB
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not too quick to write off Darrell Scott as a useful part of the DL
he’s green, but showed some real progress with some playing time last season
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
There will be
a stud DT at the top of the third round. You just hope that the glut of decent OT, WR, and DEs skips a guy down to #66. I think it’s highly possible.
I have to agree
Overall, last years draft is shaping up to fantastic. Hoping everyone comes back from their injuries with no lost mojo is crucial.
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You have to take what Devaney said w/a grain of salt
especially at this time of year. I think it’s more about making our pick look attractive to other teams.
I'd love to draft a QB
but I have a big problem signing a kid who hasn’t played in over a year, at a speed any where close to the NFL under center the keys to the offense along with a $50 million dollar paycheck. Or sign a kid with a steel toe to play his career on turf? With a OL that is known for blown blocks and giving up some of the highest sack totals. Give Bulger another year, or get Vick or Edwards to take over for the year and draft Locker or whom ever next year. Draft Tebow or LeFevour, Pike in the 3rd and see what they bring to the table. As far as #1, grab Okung or Spiller to help the run game, or Haden or Berry to help to secondary, get Bryant or Tate, Suh or McCoy. Point is don’t draft waste a pick on such high risks.
But being a fan and liking what I’ve seen out of this past draft, I think I’ll like any direction Billy D and Spags go.
Cogs was signed immediately after his release.
No reason Barron won’t attract any interest.
Keith Null won't accept my friend requests.
Pace is finished. He just doesn't have it anymore.
He is too slow and is easily injured. He was great in his day, but his day is past. It’s time for him to retire.
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