Swap meet: Draft day trade scenarios for the Rams
by VanRam on Feb 3, 2010 3:53 PM CST
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I reserve the right to change my mind over the months ahead, but right now, I'm firmly of the belief that the St. Louis Rams should trade their first overall pick, if (and it's a big if) they can get a decent return for it.
I know lots of people out there want the Rams to draft Ndamukong Suh, and I'm sympathetic to their arguments. He looks like and probably is the kind of talent that only comes along every once in a while. Trading down offers them the chance to pick up more talent, either in the form of draft picks or established NFL players. One example is the scenario we referenced recently (pitched by a Denver sports columnist) that suggested the Rams swap their first overall pick to the Broncos for Brandon Marshall and the 11th overall pick in the draft. Why pass on Suh when DL is one huge area of need for the Rams? I think this is a Rams staff that specializes in getting the most of defensive linemen, just look at how Chris Long blossomed this season, and with a draft loaded with talented defensive linemen, they can get still get a top-flight player with a pick later in the first round or early in the second.
In truth, it's probably easier and more realistic for Rams GM Billy Devaney to swap the Rams first pick of the second round. That trade could fetch a nice haul. Last year, Oakland traded New England their second round pick, 40th overall (8th pick in the second round), for a second round (47th), fourth and fifth round selections. Heck, if you don't subscribe to one-in-the-hand theory of draft picks, then there's always the possibility of something like what Denver and Seattle did last year, with the Broncos swapping their 2010 first round pick for a 2009 second round pick. And then take a look at one of the team's with a stock pile of picks, the Patriots, the trader joe of the NFL draft. Tampa Bay has two second round picks as well.
Oh draft, you can't arrive soon enough.
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can you imagine
how many people are going to come to turfshowtimes when april comes around? But I would like to see us get a few additional picks as long as someone pays the right price. But hey if they don’t we get Suh. or will we…
R.I.P Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan
I dont really care
I mean i personally like the super bowls ads to be hilarious incase the game is a snoozer (unlikely) but i guess they should put a pro choice out their so everyone wins. but i will probably be so drunk i will be taking a leak while tebows talking about family.
R.I.P Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
snooze alarm button for superbowl game – screw the corporate subsidizations!
I'm all for a trade scenario
I think the key is going to be to identify the franchises who would be willing to sacrifice value to get at Suh. Dallas thought they were a WR away when they traded for Roy Williams. Chicago was willing to unload tons of value for Cutler. If Devaney can assess which GMs feel that Suh can by himself catapult them to the next tier (whether that’s a non-playoff team to the playoffs or a playoff team to the next level of success), then he’ll have already put us in a position of success heading into the draft.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
Would you count TB as one of those teams
Do you think they may want to leapfrog detroit? I’m afraid we won’t get value for our #! because we want a QB and other teams know it.
Better not select a qb this year!
Or, I will hurl. No qb this year is a first rounder imo. Devaney (as Eric Foreman said) “Noooooooooo” to his dad when his dad made a lame decision.
Rams will trade the 1st overall pick.
Lets face it, this will be a cappless year. There won’t be nearly as many free agents available because more of them will be restricted and every team will have two franchise picks instead of one. The end result is that teams on the cusp of making the playoffs are going to be more desperate to get that one extra impact player they’ll need to push them over the hurdle into title contention. Since there won’t be as many players available in free agency, teams will have no choice but to trade for players or to use the draft to get the players they need. Some teams (like the Redskins, Broncos, and Bears) will trade to get those players, but other teams will want to hedge their bets by trading up in the draft. After all, it will be more beneficial to trade draft picks in a capless year than to trade away impact players all ready on a roster. If this is a capless year, the Rams will have a lot more power in the draft than any team has had in a decade. They’ll have plenty of teams willing to trade with them for their 1st overall pick. Suh and McCoy represent significant value over other draft candidates and are projected to be immediate impact players, so the value is there for teams to want to trade up. This draft is deep at defensive tackle, so the Rams will still be able to get a quality tackle later in the draft. Thats why I predict that the Rams will trade out of 1st overall position to acquire more draft picks. The only way they will improve this team next season will be to acquire as many picks as they can get their hands on.
And...
Two things going for the Rams that no other 1st overall pick team has had in at least 10 years. First the pool of free agents won’t be nearly as good as in previous years, and that’s saying a lot since the pool of free agents in previous years wasn’t much to begin with. There will be absolutely no relief for teams wanting to improve themselves through free agency. If this year is uncapped, every team will have the ability to match other teams offers for most of their free agents (or get a high draft pick from those teams as compensation), since most of the unrestricted free agents will be re-classified as restricted free agents. Pair that with the fact that the remaining players that will still be unrestricted under the uncapped scenario can still be franchised (teams will be able to franchise two players instead of one) and you’re looking at slim pickings in the free agent market. The remaining players that aren’t franchised will be less than mediocre or will command a kings ransom to sign.
The second thing going for the Rams is the fact there are two players that are clearly considered the best of the draft class. In previous years there have been as many as 8 players that could have been drafted first overall. Teams wanting an impact player will be more willing to trade up this year than in previous years because they won’t be able to find that type of player in free agency. So given both of those points I wouldn’t be surprised to see at least 4 or 5 teams willing to trade draft spots with the Rams. I’d be shocked if there were only got two teams willing to do it. The Rams will trade because they have way too many needs to hold on to that draft spot. This is going to happen, trust me. Fellow fans, don’t fall in love with Suh too quickly.
Drafting the Media Hype's #1 Guy
That’s what has haunted us for decades. We got some fair ones lately, but no gamebreakers on the level of SJax. Suh is like a zombie on the line. He has sometimes done some pretty good stuff even as dog slow as he is, but he also got just flattened by some pretty good college OT’s. If he was the end-all DT—the big N would have been undefeated last year. He is not as smart as OT Smith, and is also a slow learner like Long. Suh-even if we get him-needs to be backed up by a real quality new DT draftee as well, so we will have someone to play while Suh learns.
You need to sell insurance
I’m serious, Ed. Your ability to head straight to the negative result could be worth a goldmine in the right industry, Tell me you’re at least into some kind of planning for when the nuke plant melts down.
Good times ahead for the nuclear industry
Lots of investment coming over the next 10-20 years. Off topic, I know. Sorry. Can’t help it, I’m a nuke fan too.
by CoachConnors on Feb 5, 2010 10:13 PM CST up reply actions
# 1 pick
Yeah go ahead draft suh and see when you’ll get to the playoffs. This is a no-brainer and don’t blow it. I sat thru agonizing weeks of lousy play just so you would get the # 1 pick.
Now you want to pick a lineman???? No football team will consistently make the playoffs without a good QB. DRAFT TEBOW. I know he won’t play much if any his 1st year—they never do. But if you build your team around him, he will take you to the playoffs in 2 of the next 5 years and the super bowl in 2 of the next 10 years minimum.
If you don’t draft him st louis, I will denounce you for your studidity. somebody will draft him and mark my words from 02/05/10 that team will meet these expectations I’ve listed above. Also after you draft him, hire Brett Farve as your QB coach.
My girlfriend like my studidity
And I think you might be the only “Rams fan” in the world who advocates getting Tebow in the first round. At least be reasonable and advocate picking him up in a later round.
+2
lol, you both get one. You were the beneficiaries of a major softball setup, but we’re not taking any of Chris Long’s sacks off the board either, so enjoy your freebie.
by CoachConnors on Feb 5, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
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