All I Can Say to Mr. Mayock is...
by TrojanRam on Feb 24, 2010 3:34 PM CST
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Print…if this Front Office is going to make “sexy” picks because they’re concerned about job security, then they’ll get fired soon anyway as we continue to lose games. If they feel that Bradford is truly the best player for the Rams going forward as far as WINNING GAMES, then by all means draft him and I will be the first to welcome the guy to my team and wish for the best.
I’d disagree, but that’s just from an outsider’s perspective. It’s simply based on what tape I’ve seen of each of them. I can honestly say I caught at least 6 of Suh’s games last year, including the demolition of one of the eventual National Championship contenders. I caught the latter part of Bradford’s 08 season, and unfortunately caught the injury plagued times of his 09 season.
Suh’s team went 10-4 with a dominant defense and downright awful offense. They demolished Arizona in their bowl game, blanking them in a 33-0 destruction. They held a Texas team that averaged (gulp) 43 POINTS to a pathetic 13 in the game before their NC Trip. To me, that kind of defense can give your team a chance every game.
Am I saying Suh will make us that kind of defense? No. Not immediately and not by himself entirely, but he can someday. We have the Mike Backer. We have a pretty decent secondary. We have a young, up and coming Defensive End. We have a solid NT. I just think we’re closer on Defense than we are on Offense, and that’s why I feel Suh should be the pick.
It’s not like we won’t add offense. Receiver/TE is a huge possibility in Rds 2-4. Whatever rookie QB we pick next year will come in with so much more to work with. He’s out there. He’s working. It’s not the NFL, but he’s playing college ball getting ready for it. He’ll have a better chance if he’s got a defense to back him up next year, a more cohesive offensive line, and a couple more pieces on offense that will be a year old. That sounds like a blueprint to me.
As far as media pressure picking up, Mayock may have been the first shot. But McShay/Kiper remain on the Suh side, and for most people, they’re the most visible “traditional” draft media. What does it matter though? The fan base won’t respond to pundits in April. They’ll respond to wins/losses in September-December. If we actually believe we’ll have many wins this year anyway, we’re lying to ourselves. I’m optimistic as any fan, but the roster isn’t going to be completely replenished in one draft and one no-cap crippled FA season.
Media pressure? Honestly, F that. We’re where we’re at because the previous regime caved under that kind of pressure. The Rams should only pick a QB if that’s who they TRULY believe, and I need to give added emphasis to the word THEY (The Rams, not WalterFootball), will help them win games. From a fan’s perspective, watching Bradford’s Heisman season and Suh’s Heisman season this year (yeah, I said it), I believe it should be Suh we take. He was more dominant to me, at a position I see as a bigger need.
WK 1: Julius Jones 117
WK 2: Portis/Campbell 107
WK 3: Grant 99
WK 4: Coffee? 74
WK 5: Peterson/Taylor 89, 3 TDs
It gets REALLY ugly here, stay with me:
WK 6: Jones-Drew 133, 3 TDs
WK 7: Addai/Brown (rookie) 122
WK 8: Morris/Smith 105
WK 10: Bush/Meachem 124
WK 11: (Gulp) Hightower/Wells (rookie) 184
WK 12: Forsett (who?) 130!
WK 13: Forte/Bell 126
WK 14: Johnson/Young 161 3 TDs
Reprieve:
Wk 15: Moats/Foster 53 (Yay!!!)
“Finishing Strong”
Wk 16: Wells/Hightower 100
WK 17: Gore/Coffee 119
I’m sorry, but if you ask me, that’s much more pathetic to me than Marc Bulger’s 70.7 QB Rating (better than Dear Sanchez and Dear Stafford by the way) with CFL WRs (because of injuries to L-Rob, Burton/Avery, and the late arrival of Amendola/Gibby).
You can’t pin point scoring on the QB alone, so I judge the guy by the rating, specifically whether or not he turns the ball over. Look at Sanchez! Postseason AFC Title Game in his first year while he lead the 20th ranked passing attack and held the 28th worst QB rating. Stafford? To me a better QB, with an All-Pro Wide Receiver, with the 29th worst passer rating and an early exit 10 game season, with 2 Ws. “Sanchise” had a defense and an elite O-line. We’re closer to having a defense than the pieces on offense in my estimation, so back to the original point:
BUILD WHAT YOU’RE CLOSER TO. Dominance on one side of the ball can give you a chance all season. Suh can be the missing piece IMO. If you don’t think those rushing stats eat away at a Defensive Coach like Spags, then I don’t know what to tell you.
On D, stopping the run is a pride thing. Spags’ pride must have been hurt A LOT last year. A player like Suh, who specializes in run stuffing, can help that sooner than a QB can help our O without the right people. Those right people, to me, are coming, so that QB can wait IMO. If Spags’ n co. see the right guy now, pull the trigger. But it HAS to be because THEY want to, not because NFL Network thinks it’s sexier. I wouldn’t want those clowns to be there if all they’re worried about is job security. Their job is to WIN.
Do that, and everyone will STFU. Fast.
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those rushing totals got worse
after we traded Witherspoon. Obviously, DT is a huge need, but so is WLB.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Feb 24, 2010 4:12 PM CST reply actions
They were still bottom of the league before he was gone.
I mean, Julius Jones? We can get another Spoon from Mizzou in round 2, but not before the DT.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
by TrojanRam on Feb 24, 2010 4:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I couldn't agree more
There is too much emphasis being attributed to the philosophy of any one player being a difference maker. The draft is a process that occurs every year resulting in many additions to the team, not just this year. It’s never a do or die decision, but rather the key part to the team building process. You approach it with a ‘big picture’ mentality, if you want to be successful, and therefore, keep your job.
I completely agree
and it’s why I’m in the Suh camp (and OLB in 2nd round camp as well).
I think a lot of this depends on your personal philosophy. My defensive approach pushes the argument, “Your offense gets better field position and is better rested with an improved defense,” but any offensively-minded fan could just as well rebut, “Sure, but a better offense means worse field position for our opponent and more rest for the D.”
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
I meant DT.
Cliff Ryan. I’ve rewatched the tape from last season (I’m obviously a masochist), but aside from Chris Long (and Mr. Little), only Cliff Ryan stood out. I would definitely call him solid.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
A mantra for all athletes.
by TrojanRam on Feb 24, 2010 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Go with Suh...
was never on the Vick wagon, but as a crutch for a year or two while we wait for Locker next year or C. McCoy to mature this year. He will open up holes for SJ that wasn’t there this year (ask Dunn). Only downfall will be the confidence our WR’s will lose by not being anywhere near were the ball is being thrown. Devote the draft to one side, then repair the other side next year. This team will not turn the corner with out a franchise QB, but I don’t see him in this years draft of FA. So at least make one side of the ball fun to watch. Give us somrthing to cheer about. If the D becomes the identity we’ve been missing since GSOT days, let me be the first to welcome it home. BABY STEPS people, BABY STEPS
Do both!
Suh first, but I have a feeling QB Tony Pike will be moving up the draft boards as a result of the upcoming combine – especially since many other QB’s won’t throw.
He may be a good possibility in the 2nd round, unless he moves up too quickly. If he is legit (the next Flacco), we could potentially get our QB AND Suh. Wow.
Here we go again...
With the wait till next year mentality. Why do we have to save our chips and hope that Jake Locker is going to be on the board for us next year? There are two ways to go with this draft this year:
1) Pick up Suh first overall, OLB in the second round and then a Lefevour or Pike (hell even Zac Robinson looked good in the Senior Bowl) in the third round and then use the other 7 picks on day 2 to address defensive end, offensive line, backup running back, cornerback, tight end and maybe wide receiver. If we can add some talent to the O-line to protect Bulger for another year until our day two quarterback draft pick is ready to take over we should be OK. I agree our defense is coming around but we need to add talent to the outside linebacker slot and someone to put some pressure on the edge.
2) Trade out of the first pick and earn additional picks to get our franchise QB in round one and then the plethora of draft picks to really address the other positions and get the ship righted quicker. Their are plenty of solid defensive tackles coming out this year. We can still get one out of the first round.
Last years Rams team was not as bad as advertised. We were close in so many games with our defense creating turnovers, Steven Jackson busting some big runs and our passing game had some good moments but all those damn penalties kept killing us. If we can work on the mental part of the game and get everyone on the same page to avoid those penalties we can get somewhere. The injuries that we sustained on top of that just magnified our problems because I have to admit, it seemed like we were bringing in people off the street to cover for those injuries. You can’t have cohesion with that going on.
Bottom line, their is talent on board, just do your research Mr. Devaney, Spags and Co. and we can fix this team NOW!
A good offense can't help a bad defense.
A good defense can help a bad offense by giving the offense more possessions and a short field. Pick Suh or trade down and take Berry. We can always get the qb next year either by using our first round pick or trading up.
Only five players have averaged 25 and 10 in their playoff careers. One of them, Dirk Nowitzki.
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