2011 lockout is on the way.
by Tevin T. Broner on Dec 4, 2010 1:49 PM CST
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PrintIn a letter to the players that was seen by The Associated Press, NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith said the union had an "internal deadline" for agreeing to a new collective bargaining agreement.
The whole article on the letter is in this article on ESPN. For those of you who don't feel like reading this I will make it short for you. The NFLPA most likely won't try to renegotiate with the NFL until the current bargaining agreement is over.
The one-page letter on NFLPA stationery said the union expects the lockout to come on March 4, and that players should work with their advisers to prepare for an impending lack of income.
Below I have things that we do know about this lockout and things that we don't know. I know this lockout is on a lot of people minds so I had to let everyone know that this will most likely happen.
5 things you should know about this situation.
1. There will be an NFL draft.
2. If you buy tickets for the 2011 NFL season, and your game doesn't get played because of the lockout you will get your money back.
3. There is a 90% chance that there will be an 18 game season.
4. There is a high chance that 2012 season will have a rookie salary cap.
5. Expect to see familiar faces in the UFL next season.
5. things that we don't know about this situation.
1. Will Goodell get his wish for a development league for the NFL
2. How this will impact free agency.
3. How many players will be on an NFL roster in a 18 game season.
4. Will teams take chances drafting since they can't sign their picks until this situation is cleared up.
5. Will there be replacement players in 2011? I hear that it won't be and if thats the case the players have a big upper hand on the owners.
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as much as I love football
the 18 game season sucks. Remember all those years of watching the Rams roll out a bunch of starters they signed off the street the week before because everyone was injured? Get ready, because that’s exactly what the entire league will look like with 18 games.
I don't like it either.
No one seems to understand the implications. Players will be dropping like flies, it’s too much for one body to handle for that long period of time.
Winners train. Losers complain.
by Redbirds_n_Horns on Dec 4, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions
I am with you Van
It’s just too physical a game for 18
Pooch punts should be illegal inside an opponents 38 yard line.
i'd say go with the 16 game season and just go to a 2 game preseason.
hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.
my favorite part about this
is that now the greedy owners can water down the contact even more to protect their franchise players for an extra two games. then they can lie to us about it being about player safety and i need to start watching college football. i hate everything the league is doing right now.
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by nodisrespect on Dec 4, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions
Holy crap there're only like 6 teams in the UFL...
I hope Sam, SJax, Long, and JL all decide to play and go on the same team. That would definitely be my favorite team. Damn, the UFL is actually going to be pretty competitive then with a bunch of NFL guys in there. It might actually be worth watching… hhhmmmm…
Winners train. Losers complain.
by Redbirds_n_Horns on Dec 4, 2010 2:01 PM CST reply actions
this situation
Sucks! They really can’t fix this?
by Moobreff on Dec 4, 2010 2:17 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Revenue per team
If that number is true about impact, times 32 teams. That is a lot of money that doesn’t get made. I doubt all that gets left on the tables
by JTPirate on Dec 4, 2010 2:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
atleast
Ill be at the game tomorrow… drowning my sadness with a rams win!
by Moobreff on Dec 4, 2010 2:43 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Whoever does the press and media handling for the players union should be fired
Now the NFL can sit back and say, we will talk about an extension anytime, but they have to be there too. Which is exactly what they said.
Seriously.
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
Yeah, I don't get it
The NFLPA is appearing to be militant to the point of being unreasonable. To me, they are handing the battle for fan and media support to to the owners, when really, with a little business savvy they should win that battle and crank up the pressure and gain leverage.
Is it a pre-requisite to have failed in business and media relations before you land a job representing the union? Just wondering because it doesn’t appear as if the owners are out maneuvering the union; the union are kneecapping themselves.
It's on the owners IMO
They want to make the season 18 games to increase revenue yet don’t want to give the players compensation for it. They think by taking out two preseason games and adding them to the regular season that it’s all the same. Regular season games are more intense and physical than preseason games.
by Smoooth Criminal on Dec 4, 2010 4:39 PM CST reply actions
I dont think player demands are particularly unreasonable.
I do however dislike their red october union uprising propagandist bullshit tactics. Get the government involved to solve the dispute STFU. The players should fire the lawyers representing them and just get guys that will negotiate a fair fucking deal.
But civil law is nasty and unfair so…this is what you get.
Check this out
http://www.nfllockout.com/what-is-this-lockout-not-about/
Owners want to reduce players salaries and increase games. No way that happens. Even if the players make millions,
by Smoooth Criminal on Dec 4, 2010 4:44 PM CST reply actions
If you want to believe the propaganda from one side,
that’s your choice. I have seen nothing that said the owners want to reduce the salaries of the current players. What they want is a rookie salary scale that gives them less than under the current system. The players say that’s fine, but give us and the retirees all the money you save from the rookie salary scale. That’s where the problem comes in. What happens to those savings? If that issue gets solved, the rest is easy.
Everybody agrees on Rookie scale
Wage wise. It’s that a rookie can only get a maximum of three years then become a unrestricted free agent is the problem. It works both ways. If the pick is a bust then a shorter 3 year deal helps an owner get out of a deal quicker but if the pick pans out he might lose him in free agency.
by Smoooth Criminal on Dec 4, 2010 7:27 PM CST up reply actions
At which point
the Bills and Jaguars begin to look like the Pirates and Royals (or look more like them then they already do).
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
salary cap
so it won’t be like baseball where some teams have 5 times the payroll of other teams
I don't love to hate you T.O. I just hate you.
by Brandon Birkhead on Dec 4, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
i don't think it's as much of a salary cap
as a salary minimum.
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
There's both
Under the current CBA there is a salary range. The problem comes when the cap punishes poor drafting a la Bills (and pre-2008 Rams) salary after a poor draft gets tied up on players that aren’t doing enough to justify their salary.
This compounds with multiple bad drafts and takes time to regain a competitive team. The Bills used to be the cream of the crop but its to imagine now.
Under a rookie wage scale, poor drafting would not be punished as hard. Teams would not be paying busted picks like Jamarcus Russell for more than 3 years. I don’t agree they should be UFA but more over RFA’s to keep players on teams longer. It’s important to a fan base to field the stars longer. Imagine if Bradford only has two years left until he was unrestricted.
by JTPirate on Dec 5, 2010 6:46 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
its weird
though the player association has had a media nightmare, i agree with the players on every single issue that is brought up and even several that arent. for example NFL contracts should be guaranteed like in any other sport. the fact that they are not really is quite pathetic.
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Lack of income.
Right. The NFL minimum pay is my how much my dad makes in a year times 3. Then again, I don’t really know what the minimum is but I’m going to assume that it’s around $276,000. If they can’t survive one year without pay then they are truly stupid people.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
'lack of income' is a terrible excuse
$10 million not enough in a season? one player could make more in a year than 10 average joes like you and me make COMBINED. it’s just too bad that they can’t agree on anything. if a lockout happens, hopefully it doesn’t last an entire season. but, from the sounds of things, the chance of a lockout happening is 99.9%.
hey Mo: theriot at 2B, boog at SS.
KEEP BRENDAN RYAN.
That's why as a single player you should live on a set modest income and invest the rest
but remember out of their paychecks the players have NFLPA dues, nfl retirement, their agent gets a cut, and lastly lets not forget uncle sam wants his share as well.
18 games a season is too much and will have to include some increase in the size of a team. This will obviously dilute the NFL, but their [owners] solution is a developmental league to support the 18 game season?
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