My case for Justin Blackmon for our 1st round pick in 2011, and other draft tidbits
by Jombari on Dec 31, 2010 4:23 PM CST
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PrintSo only two days away from the biggest game the Rams have played in quite awhile, and I am trying to pass the time, so I am thinking of who the Rams should take with their first couple of picks in the 2011 draft, specifically their 1st pick.
First let's look at our biggest needs, in my opinion.
1. WR
2.OLB
3.OG
Those are honestly, the holes we absolutely need. Other areas we can add depth to include: RB, CB, DT,DE,S
A speedy RB that can change up the pace to SJ39 is at the top of my wish list. Also, I would LOVE to add a safety that we can groom to play alongside Otowge. Obviously, I feel like these are back end round picks, so let's get to my case for our top picks.
Justin Blackmon
6'1 205 WR Oklahoma State
Redshirt Sophomore
| 2010 STATS | ||
| RECEPTIONS | YARDS | TOUCHDOWNS |
| 111 | 1,782 | 20 |
Yeah, that is quite the 2010 year. Here is a highlight video against arguably the top corner in college football.
Gotta love that highlight right there. He did a little bit of everything which included Catching different ways(coming back to the ball, going up and getting it), he blocked, and was a decoy. He has good size and resembles his counter part from last year in Dez Bryant. The thing I like most about him is that he is a passionate guy that wants to win and be great. I watched some of his interviews and he always is praising his teammates and coaches.
His 40 time is around the 4.5's but I have read on many sites that he plays so much faster than that, same with his size. He is a monster, but is pretty raw on route running and blocking, but that comes with experience. The guy can stretch the field just as good as anyone in the country, and the best part, he finishes his plays. He got Prince on a couple pass interference's and also caught a couple deep ones.
It's gonna be tough to get Blackmon I am afraid. He had a great bowl game, and I feel he will run a great 40 time to really wow some scouts. I think he will be a fast riser, but hopefully we can still get him.
Walter football has us taking:
1. Justin Blackmon
2. Mason Foster- Who had a GREAT bowl game last night with like 11 tackles and 2 sacks. The guy plays with some passion and eye black!
3. Blake Gideon- Don't know too much about him, but I would much rather have a guy like Demarco Murrary or Noel Devine
Thoughts?
and BTW, GO RAMS!
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I would be very happy with Blackmon as the future go-to guy.
Michael Floyd might be a good backup plan if somebody snatches Blackmon up before us.
by turpinforpresident on Dec 31, 2010 5:02 PM CST reply actions
I take that back actually.
I’d put Baldwin ahead of Floyd.
by turpinforpresident on Dec 31, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
Honestly
I had never heard of Devine until another fan had me watch his highlight video yesterday…. I would love to see us get that kid in the 3rd/4th as our RB choice….. he was sooooooo fast. He has a completely different style than SJ which I always think is a good thing. I like Blackmon… but I have never seen the other guy…. Foster…. what is his deal (size, style etc)
He's primarily a ilb for UW
But projects well to OLB in the pros. I think he’s pretty much getting mocked to us by default because of our need for an OLB and there being slim pickins in the 2nd or 3rd rounds. I’m personally not that high on Foster in the second. Maybe the 3rd, but he’s not an ideal fit at Will and he’s small for Sam, although he’s closer to that role. He’s a good pass rusher on a bad defense so he stands out more than his talent dictates. At that pick I’d take Bruce Carter first, Travis Lewis second , and another position if both were gone.
Bruce Carter
got picked up in that mock draft two slots ahead of us in the second, so we got Foster. I think Lewis was gone in the first.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I doubt Carter goes that high
I also like Tank Carder of TCU or Casey Matthews of UO. But not in the 2nd, again because they come from inside.
I bet Bruce Carter goes higher, actually.
I’d like a Casey Matthews too. I bet he can make the switch to weakside.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I'm an oregon fan, and Matthews is a brute.
Also, what about Eric Gordon?
by turpinforpresident on Jan 1, 2011 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
I woke up late for the Big Green-Bama game
and switched to Florida-PSU immediately after I saw the score. Did he even play well? Haha.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
He did ok.
Actually, while we’re on the topic of michigan state, what about greg jones?
by turpinforpresident on Jan 1, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
way undersized as a MLB, but it wasn't an issue in college
I personally see him going to the outsides
Sam Bradford
Yeah most mocks have him as an OLB.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Noel Devine and Joe McKnight were the 1 and 2
running backs coming out of high school, McKnight never really lived up to his status, but Devine, despite his small size, put up some monster numbers at West Virgnina. If he can run in the 4.3’s I would love to have him in a Rams uniform, he could be like Darren Sproles type player.
I worry about picking these small, fast guys from college.
Spiller and Best, the top two last year, have done next to nothing this year in the pros. It’s a different ballgame in the NFL, and the small, fast guys seldom really make it.
Spiller, maybe...
…but Best was putting up great numbers before he got injured. And he was injured for a lot of the year. Injuries is something else to consider for small shifty backs.
But we need one…in fact IMO, we have ZERO big play guys on offense. SJ is NOT a big play guy, he’s consistent and durable, which is also of value. We need some guys that can hit home runs. I like Blackmon in the first, as long as he runs a better 40 time than 4.5. That’s not first round material IMO. And he reminds me more of Andre Johnson than Dez Bryant cause he’s not as big as Dez. Anyhow, I’d like to see us take an OLB in the 2nd and a RB in the 3rd. Naturally, if somebody slips down to us in any round, we should be prepared to take the BPA. DL is also a need. And I’m not convinced that OG is a need. The absence of any big play guys allows the defense to load the box which makes it tough on the OL. That’s why I think we could use big play guys…..and didn’t Billy D say that also?
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 1, 2011 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
ill take spiller any day of the week
Sam Bradford
Actually Best's running numbers were never any good.
It was ignored though because of those touchdowns but he was still averaging 3.1 yards per carry in those first 3 games, even with the 4 rushing touchdowns.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I don't have the inclination to look up Best's stats...
…but he was pretty good at catching passes out of the backfield and making big plays. That’s the kinda dude we need.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Jan 2, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Oh yeah he's definitely good in th open field.
He’s been really bad as a runner though
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I like this Alshon Jeffery guy
hes got good hands and speed
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
True sophomore.
Next years top receiver, no doubt.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
How about
1st- ?
2nd- Floyd WR
3rd- Murray RB
And have some D-Lineman in the first.
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
I'd much rather pick up Sproles.
Proven to be one of the top 3rd down backs in every aspect. We’ve pursued him once, who’s to say we won’t do it again?
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
That way
we won’t have to WASTE a pick on a back with many more glaring needs.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
makes sense
Sproles would compliment SJ39 nicely.
Yeah, then we can use that pick to fill another need, makes sense.
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
Sproles is going to want some cash
He is going to want to be paid about 3/4 of what a starter gets paid because of what he does. I mean I would rather spend that cash on somebody else and draft Devine or Murray.
Sam Bradford
I highly doubt Murray and Devine will turn out to be
nearly as good as Sproles in a 3rd down situation. That little dude is surprisingly good at blocking. I say Murray is the better runner in the NFL and Devine would be the better returner/ blocker. He’s a pretty good blocker, which is also surprising. But we have a RICH ass owner with so much cash to spend, Sproles would be very much worth it.
Also, not every speed back will hit like Chris Ivory and Chris Johnson, those guys are VERY rare. Best is horrible in the running game and Spiller has done next to nothing this year.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
pick up sproles
I’d prefer a DE. Robert Quinn in particular and from what I heard of good kid who will dominate with long on the other side of him. As far as in Guard Rodney Hudson from florida state 4 year starter. Went under the radar because of the mess in Florida state. Alshon Jefferey is a sophmore I believe?
by rams3!!! on Dec 31, 2010 8:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Quinn is being talked about in the top 10, even top 5
and we will not be in the position to take him. Kind of what a fear from Blackmon in a couple months is that we will be out of position to take him.
Sam Bradford
Trade up?
another thing the rams can do is trade down and grab more 2nd round picks. Adrian clayborn from Iowa had a down year. Had a monster orange bowl last year.
by rams3!!! on Jan 1, 2011 12:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
pretty hard to trade down and grab a 2nd rounder
Sam the MAN! GIANTS WIN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!
by loyal2therams on Jan 1, 2011 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
A lot of mock's are actually
saying Quinn might translate as a 3-4 OLB. I can see him as that, he’s pretty small for a defensive end. I want Bowers or that Purdue dude…Kerrigan?
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
And Kerrigan would likely be around in the middle of the first.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
bowers is top 5
and Quinn is 6’5 270 that’s good size for a DE. Chris long is 6’3 270
by rams3!!! on Jan 1, 2011 2:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh he looks so much skinnier.
Probably because he’s 6’5, but he’s got a DeMarcus ware type build.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I was hoping his draft stock dropped
yeah, that’s who I would compare Quinn to. And imagine Demarcus Ware playing DE 15+ Sacks a year.
by rams3!!! on Jan 2, 2011 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh
Blake Gideon is a safety at Texas who dropped the pick in the national championship.
by rams3!!! on Dec 31, 2010 8:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions
other than that, how is his profile?
Sam Bradford
Hahaha he's actually a good player.
I’d imagine everyone on that Texas defense had their stocks drop significantly because the offense couldn’t stay on the field. I wouldn’t mind Sam Acho in the 2nd and Blake Gideon in the 3rd, you know a lot of Mack Brown’s kids are quality people as well as good players.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I know for sure
Sam Acho is an incredible student, high-character guy.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
McDaniels the safety from Clemson
over Blake. He’s 6ft 212lbs. Has extra baggage with him. He’s a wife beater.
by rams3!!! on Jan 2, 2011 6:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I can't even find Blake Gideon in relation to the NFL
someone said he probably isn’t declaring this year?
Sam the MAN! GIANTS WIN THE WORLD SERIES!!!!!!!
He shouldn't
Understand 53 kids came out early last year and that was the biggest pull of UCM in draft history. Not that many will declare this year so I wouldn’t bet on anyone declaring that is on the fence. Annually there may be 4-6 that, when they declare, we wonder if it was a good idea. I guess suffice it to say, if they’re wondering whether or not they’re ready, they’re probably not.
With Will Muschamp gone,
he’d have to learn a new defense on an already weak-looking Texas squad. I’d leave if I were him and he’s probably thinking the same thing.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
DraftTek has us taking...
OLB Bruce Carter in the first, WR Jonathon Baldwin in the 2nd, RB Ryan Williams in the third, safety Jeremy Kellem in the 4th and DE Andre Branch in the 5th. According to this same site, DeMarco Murray gets picked with the 109th pick. I think I would rather have him than Ryan Williams. I think taking the safety in the 4th round is a little early and we would be wise to choose someone else.
I'm suffering from an extreme case of laurinaitis!
If we could get Baldwin in the 2nd round that would be fantastic, but the trick with those second and further round picks is that it gets much harder to guess what teams will do. And I could just not see a talent like Baldwin falling in the second. If we want a Grade A wide reciever I think we are going to have to get it in the first round!
by kickasskeever on Jan 1, 2011 2:58 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed, this offseason is going to be one of the most exciting we've had in a while.
I'm suffering from an extreme case of laurinaitis!
I think thats a good few picks
idk bout Gideon but yea if murry or devine (i like murry better) were still there then we deff go that route….
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Need to take a long hard look at how
Avery and Clayton are developing before we jump at a wideout in the draft. Free agency is a big draw for players out there looking for a team on the way to the playoffs next year(which we will). Better off with a proven player then a chance on another possible bust.
"Tread lightly, lest the Big Goat Eats."
Its gonna be hard to get a good read on them
both coming off serious injuries, and won’t see any real games to evaluate them.
Sam Bradford
If Avery and Clayton are coming back strong or we get Rice or V-Jack
I like the draft to go:
Mike Pouncey – OG
Marvin Austin- DT
Noel Devine HB WR
Greg Little
Perhaps and OLB in the third and a different speed back later like Derrick Locke or Quizz Rodgers.
Onobun > Gates
I am all for that happening.
As much as I would like to have Blackmon, Rice/Jackson is what I really want. That would allow us to really draft not having to worry about a WR.
Rice/Alexander/Gibson/Amendola/(put 5th receiver here)
Thats what I want to see, and if Mike can play anywhere close to Maurkice then we would have an awesome young line.
Sam Bradford
We're never getting Marvis Austin,
not in a million years. He could be the classiest guy in the world but the fact that he’s NEVER played his hardest would keep him off this roster alone. Anyway, he’s got character issues too lol. Wouldn’t you rather try and grab Sproles through free agency instead of wasting a pick on a runningback? We have WAY too many holes to waste a perfectly good 3rd round pick on a 3rd down back.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I would like to see spags gamble
i know Marvin Austin isn’t a 4 pillar guy but, what I would like to see is Spags drafting Austin and see what kind of player Spags can turn Austin into.
I think if Marvin
showed Spags that he can be motivated then he would take him regardless of a few character issues.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
remember everson griffen?
everybody wanted him each round, including me, but Austin seems like the same person. High recruit out of HS, never lived up to his billing, ect.
Sam Bradford
I'm a USC fan
and not once did I want Everson Griffen. Talk about an extremely hyped recruit, only to never live up to it.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
yep.... I agree
we have our locker room “personality” in place now and if they were going to experiment with bringing a 3 pillars player in they would start with a young drafted personality…. at least IMO…. because they are easier to make come in and “fit” the locker room
You know what doesn't suck?
Having to worry about not getting player in the draft.
When you have to worry, that means your winning games
Sam Bradford
It is nice isn’t it… So this is how those Patriots have been feeling for the last ten years….
by kickasskeever on Jan 1, 2011 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
Well..I think Marcel Dareus has solidified himself as a top 5 pick
He has made Michigan St go to a WR for a QB
Sam Bradford
No dude.
This game was Courtney Upshaw’s day. I wonder if he could play end on a 4-3… That would be nice.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
All I caught was the two plays where Dareus just destroyed the entire Mich. St O-Line
For two sacks in a row
Sam Bradford
Yeah by the time I turned it off (I watched like 2 minutes)
but Upshaw had 3 tackles for losses and 2 sacks. This was in the middle of the 3rd lol.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
you could have written the post like this
“My case for Justin Blackmon”
2010 STATS
111 receptions 1,782 yards 20 TDs
Any questions?
I would have been convinced haha
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
should I laugh at this....
nah joking, it wouldve been funny
"We start wit straight--shots then get the bottle poppin!"
I know those stats are ridiculous
I just wanted to see if anybody else was thinking the same thing. I also wanted to get a decent thread going about the draft.
Sam Bradford
BLACKMOND AND JONES WILL BE OFF THE BOARD AT 21ST PICK - WE ARE GOING TO WIN TOMMORROW.
We need to focus on if an OLB or DL will be on the board that is going to help us. I think that is what is going to happen. I like WR Broyles and Baldwin but not in the 1st, they will go early in the 2nd. Anyone know who the best 4-3 OLB are that are worthly of a 1st round pick? DL at our stop – ideally a DT would be better than DE but spags defenses rotates alot so best one is the way to go.
Bruce Carter and Lewis from Oklahoma
And I agree with you. Maybe we shouldn’t draft a WR and wait for Alshon Jefferey and trade up for him. Hopefully in 2 years we don’t have as many holes as we do now so, we can trade up for this kid.
I watched Lewis last night and was not impressed – lots of mocks show him end of 1st beginning of 2nd – saw him moving backwards and chasing to make tackles not getting off blocks. Bruce Carter is to big and slow for 4-3 OLB in my opinion. I asked about 4-3 OLB because the onces I have watched don’t look like a answer. I have not had a chance to watch Mason Foster – he might be a good one in the 2nd or 3rd.
Sorry scratch my comment about Carter - he is the one who had ACl surgery in December
I hear he is very good but the surgery is a concern for a 1st pick – in my opinion.
ALL THE MOCK DRAFTS THAT HAVE BRUCE CARTER GOING IN THE FIRST ROUND HAVE NOT BEEN UPDATED
sorry for all caps, but lots of carter talk, and I think all the suspensions have made people forget about the injury
Take off that D!
Also, I believe that at least one of the top 4 WR will be available in the 20’s which includes AJ Green/Baldwin/Jones/Blackmon.
Sam Bradford
If Green Jones or Blackmon was available at 21 I would take them over any other player
I think Baldwin is a higher risk pick – he didn’t have a very good QB to work with but just seems a little stiff and not a great WR like the others.
Personally
If this FO managed to grab our WR and RB in free agency and then pulled a good OLB and run blocking OG out of the draft….. plus maybe a raw guy who will take some coaching to be mentored by Robinson in a later round…. I would be happy
So...
Anyone else extremely impressed with Tank Carder’s Rose Bowl? I wouldn’t mind him on the weakside, not at all.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Gritty player for sure.
I bet in the beginning he would be a stud ST player.
Sam Bradford
Definitely. If he goes pro,
I want him badly.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
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