Rams offseason player needs
by Ryan Van Bibber on Dec 28, 2010 9:42 AM CST
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I know, why the Hell are we talking about the draft when the St. Louis Rams are on the verge of their first playoff appearance since 2004?
Well, old habits die hard. Besides, I couldn't let this post from Mike Sando go by without comment. In it, Matt Williamson of Scouts, Inc. runs down the top six draft needs of every NFC West team. Here's how he ranks the Rams' draft needs for the 2011 NFL Draft:
- WR
- OLB
- CB
- RB
- DT
- TE
Few would deny that those are positions of need, but just how much need and where they should be on the priority list is subject to some debate.
It's hard to argue with the first one, first two really. The OLB spot has been the soft underbelly of the Rams defense all season, and competent offenses have attacked that spot for repeated success, see the Atlanta and New Orleans game.
Few would argue about the need for a wide receiver after watching the Rams offense this season. However, as we've talked about before, the return of Donnie Avery and possibly Mark Clayton complicates the team's route to beef up that position group, i.e. a first round pick may very well be off the table.
Number 3, the cornerback, is where I really disagree. The Rams need defensive line help, either a DT or DE, before they need another player in the secondary. If anything, they need a safety more than another CB, and the CB need is one of improved depth, as in no more Kevin Dockery. Jerome Murphy will have an increased role next year, and Bradley Fletcher and Ron Bartell will be the starters. Improving the Rams front four, strengthening the pass rush, will give the secondary a big boost.
I might put RB higher up the list too.
And tight end, well, Michael Hoomanawanui looks to be the main man in that job next year. Will Fendi Onobun be ready to contribute next season? Billy Bajema is back for another year as the primary blocking TE. The magnitude of the Rams need at TE really comes down to how well Onobun develops. Beyond that, they need a do-it-all back up for Uh Oh.
My position needs for the Rams:
- WR
- OLB
- DE
- OG - do I need to remind you just how awful interior run blocking has been?
- RB
- S
Remember, that's not draft order. Positions like OLB and OG can be addressed adequately without a first or second round pick, depending on the players available in those rounds and at that spot in the draft, of course.
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For me it goes
1. WR
2. OLB
3. RB
4. DE
5. OG
6. S
I think we really need to be aggressive this offseason in free agency – if we can get a legitimate WR or RB, it will help a lot in allowing the team to draft BPA in the draft. I’m not sure there are any wide receivers I like enough to take in the first round besides Green, who will be gone. I gotta think we can get RB in free agency and then maybe you can pick one up later in the draft. A lot of this depends on how much Kroenke will open up his wallet – I would hope he sees that this team is just a terrific offseason away from being a contender
The WR Debate
I don’t like spending a high pick on a WR unless it makes sense as a BPA standpoint. Teams with a good QB can afford to take a WR later and get just as much production as a high round pick. For my money, this is where I think the team should go.
1. DE/DT – Robbins and Hall are not getting younger. The defense lives and breaths by what the line does. Good line play can mask issues in the secondary and allow the exotic blitz packages that the Rams use.
2. OLB – Obvious position of need. There are plenty of OLB’s available. Spags has been known to rely on lesser OLB’s but with the depth in this class, we may get a stud talent in the later second or third round. Looking for a traditional 4-3 here. It would be a big mistake to try to convert a 3-4 prospect.
3. S – Dahl is serviceable, but OJ is no guarantee to be back, and Darian Stewart will be nothing more than a role player. Need to add some depth at this point.
4 RB – I would be lying if I said I wanted anything but the Rams to tap the Oregon State pool again and take Quizz Rodgers here. An excellent speed candidate to run out of the spread and hit the corners. I’ll say that if we take an RB, a complement to SJax is the way to go, not a replacement
5. OG – I was tempted to move guard all the way to the top and target Pouncey, but I know the team will not invest that much money into the OLine. Guard isn’t a sexy position, and no doubt it’s a position of need.
6. ?? – What team need can I shove in this pick. Not sure what to put here. There is plenty of depth issues for this team. Take your pick. WR or CB.
to not give WR not one of your top 3 needs to inexcusable
If Danario knee wasn’t one step from breaking into pieces, sure, it wouldn’t be that big of a problem, but it is. A guy like AJ Green/Blackmon/Baldwin/Floyd/Jones who can consistently come in and give us an open field and some speed would make this offense work just like it does when Danario is in and going downfield. I do agree with the DE/DT as a top 1-3 need. I feel the key to a team, ALA NYG, is to get constant pressure on the QB and that will let everyone else be better.
Sam Bradford
Different Schools
Indy has had a #1 pick in Harrison and Wayne, but Gonzalez has been almost a bust and the injuries at WR have hurt them, but Peyton still gets it done.
NE hasn’t used a high pick on a reciever in a long long time and Brady tears it up with cast offs and low round picks.
As I’ve watched the season go by and Sam gets a raport with his recievers, they have gotten better. Given that he’ll have more time to work with the recievers instead of to learn his position and the playbook, I believe he can develop the current crop.
Yes, there are a good crop of WR candidates coming out and watching this team, it’s easy to say that we need recievers, but does it fit to use a high pick?
Brady also has a godly O-line and throws deep
Maybe we don’t throw deep because we don’t have the WR’s and maybe we don’t because we don’t want to, but the fact remains, Brady has more tool.
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on Dec 28, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
lol, tools
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
by Midasknight on Dec 28, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
no you were right the first time
Sam Bradford
that o line gives him the cleanest 5 second pocket in nfl history pretty much every snap.
if you can wait 5 secs for 4 wrs to get open and you are a qb with a semblance of talent (let alone being tom brady) then you are bound to tear it up.
Brady had Moss and broke records.
We get a stud WR to grow with Sam and we will dominate. we have solid contributors now but another stud to go with DX means a dominant offense and lless hard work for the defense.
Bradford to Onobun!
Yeah that is the biggest secret in the NFL. That guys gets an eternity to throw the
football.
All I want for Christmas is a Pete Carroll scowl on week 17!
YEPPERS!
BEST NEEDS LIST THUS FAR.
You had me at OLB and DE with rb and s on that list.
VAN RAMS IS GOOD, but that wr is too high.
He got that off of Sando's list.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
hmm I like
1. OG
2. DE
3. DT
4. RB
5. OG
6. CB
WR I think the Rams are good if they make a good effort to sign Clayton then shop around for another FA reciever. I think DE and DT are in those spots because you can find guys that need some work before they are ready and can train under Robbins and Hall but can also rotate them out and give them a breather. As long as the Rams have Steven Jackson, you have to invest in the running game. The Rams need at least one OG which I think will make them better at the Center position and they can get some push up the gut for crying out loud. As for OLB…I am not sure if someone could drudge up this statistic, but how many yards did the rams yield on that stupid ass flip 90 running play!!! But the Rams troubles on misdirection plays I dont think a rookie is going to solve that, they just need a FA vet who can sniff that out and make the play.
All I want for Christmas is a Pete Carroll scowl on week 17!
Safety I think we are good...
…Give Dahl his due man. That guy has turned in to a great SS. He thumps, he wraps up and lately he has learned to pick off the deep over the middle route! He plays his ass off and he gets there.
All I want for Christmas is a Pete Carroll scowl on week 17!
I disagree
Hes a solid spot starter and great backup. He lacks speed and continuously takes bad routes to the ball(watch Jamal Charles 80 yard run). He’s a sure tackler, and average in coverage. He does play his heart out, but sometimes it only gets you so far.
Sam Bradford
There is definitely something I must not be getting about this guy....
How can a guy with 89 tackles second only to JL’s 105 who has started in 3 more games! It is possible that if Dahl was a starter at the beginning of the season, he would be leading the team in tackles.
How can you continuously take bad routes to the ball and be one of the Rams leading tacklers?
All I want for Christmas is a Pete Carroll scowl on week 17!
This should read 'needs' not 'draft needs.'
One or two of those top 4 positions should be via free agency.
For me, top 4 needs are:
1. WR
2. OG
3. OLB
4. DT
Sure, there are more needs and you could argue the order, but frankly I’d rather be winning 24-20 than 17-14 (and truly the OG helps the offense AND the defense).
I can take a beating ... I'm a Rams fan.
That's exactly the way it was expressed in the Sando/Williamson article.
They weren’t talking about just the draft. They were talking about where the teams should “target their resources” this offseason. That covers free agency as well as the draft. They are talking about team needs and not about the draft.
Given that I think the only thing they missed on was not listing Offensive Guard. Our guards have truly been “offensive” in their run blocking this year, and it needs to be fixed. I think this should be in the top 3 along with WR and OLB. Once we get those three fixed, we can focus on building depth and building for the future across the roster.
Your top four
is looking the same as mine, although I think the OG is the biggest need. Solidifing that Oline will make wonders for this football team. And too finish off the top six add RB and either DE or CB and we’re looking good.
"SJAX" - The extra strength cleaner that fights off that Stubborn, Stingy Defense
I agree that we need to address OG pretty early
I believe that Goldberg is a valuable rotational lineman, but he doesn’t have the beast-mode that we need when running between tackles. I also like the idea of grabbing a safety, although Darian Stewart has done a good job so far and Jerome Murphy might get some looks there.
A few:
1. Champ Bailey
2. R. Barber
3. W. Blackmon
Bailey will get tagged. Barber could be a good fit. Leader. If we lose OJ Barber may move to FS.
I say:
WR
OLB
SS
JaQuiz Rodgers Oregon State RB for a little Thunder (SJ) and Lighting.
OG
OT
Spags can pick up DTs and DEs as they get released from other teams going in other directions.
HOW TO "COPYCAT" THE COLTS
For years we have heard that the NFL is a “copycat” league, but if that were true, why hasnt anyone tried to copy the colts??
Don’t get me wrong, it wouldnt be easy right? draft a hall of fame QB, WR, RB ect.
But although the Colts have an unconventional approach, it is possible for many teams to copy it.
The Colts as we know them were started a few years BEFORE drafting Peyton Manning with the first pick in the 1999 draft.
Manning came into the league with a fighting chance because the foundation had been set…..in 1994 the colts drafted Marshal Faulk, and in 1996 got Marvin Harrison, both dependable and productive B.P. (before Peyton).
Then the year before drafting Manning, they spent both their 1st and 2nd rd picks on offensive tackles, Tarik Glenn and Adam Meadows. Manning had the foundation set for a good OLine, and RB that can both run and catch out of the backfield , a dependable WR in Harrison, and two more WRs (Jerome Pathon and EG Green ) drafted the same year as Manning.
But this is where the Colts took the UNCONVENTIONAL APPROACH…..despite a pretty well stocked offense all ready in place, they have continued to add more and more weapons for Manning…..they drafted RB in the first round three more times, WR two more times, TE once, and traded a future 1st round pick in 2008 for a high 2nd rd pick in 2007 to draft Tony Ugoh (a person they hoped they could groom to be their next LT…didn’t work out)
If you think about it, the Rams also have two top 33 picks as their bookend OTs, and a RB whos compares well with Edgerin James and Marshal Faulk.
In recent years, quite a few QBs have come into the league (Bradford, Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Flaco, Mark Sanchez) that has the POTENTIAL to develope into really good QBs, but if their teams want them to be then NEXT PEYTON MANNING, they may want to consider drafting like the NEXT INDIANAPOLIS COLTS!!
The Colts also brought in a defensive minded coach, Dungy.
Sound familiar? You maybe onto something here.
as far as copycatting goes, Id like to see the Rams copycat the Belichick method of approaching the draft when it comes to acquiring picks.
I'd rather "copycat" the Patriots. 3 of 4 in Super Bowls under Belichick
as opposed to 1 of 2 for Dungy/Caldwell. I’ll that those 3 rings as Sam because an all-time great :)
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
every team wants to copy the patriots.....not as easy as it looks
the Colts method, obviously with less superbowl wins, just seems more realistic.
As the Rams already have bookend OTs, franchise QB, workhorse RB, depth (if not elite talent) at WR.
It is also possible to do BOTH, meaning the “patriot way” of trading down for more picks and letting guys go
who want too much money is not incompatible with the Colts way of using higher picks to help their Franchise QB,
and lower picks for undersized, undervalued players for the front 7 on D
am i the only one ...
That feels like TE is the most important and guard is second? Those should be our first two picks.
Sam’s recievers in college went on to be late round picks, while his TE was a first rounder… its his favorite target, and I feel with added blocking and a great TE, out receivers can get the job done.
by Moobreff on Dec 28, 2010 11:34 AM CST via mobile reply actions
but no TE in the 2011 draft will be worth a pick that high,....
….to use a 2nd round pick on TE would be a great idea! here are my favorites, but I bet there were a bunch I never saw…
1. Kyle Rudolph | 6’6, 265 pounds | TE | Notre Dame
2. Lance Kendricks | 6’4, 240 pounds | TE | Wisconsin
3. D.J. Williams | 6’2, 250 pounds | TE | Arkansas
i say draft defense
if our defense improves bradford doesnt have to come from behind and he get more plays in. i think the key to the rams is defense. offense will come with time and bradfords progression in the league. we should go after free agent offense and draft defense with a spags touch. primetime is here now for the rams and they will only get more.i live in denver and the rams games have been on tv for the past 5 weeks and sunday will be six. bradford needs guys ready to play and the defense needs guys to get the job done for years to come. cant wait for playoffs
With a gun to my head, I would probably go...
1) OG -——- Let’s protect Sam and open thins up for Steven
2) WR -——- Alexander, Amendola, Avery, Clayton, Gibson, and ? #1 (Exciting)
3) OLB———— What would this D look like with a live body at OLB?
4) DE -——— Give Spags all the DE’s he wants!
5) DT -——— DItto!
6) RB -——— Can hold off any longer. Find a late gem in the draft. They are out there.
with a gun to my head, i'd go
1) WR -——————- I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: A guy with five knee surgeries who has played in five games is considered our best threat. That’s a problem…
2) OLB -————— They are worthless right now. Give Animal some help please.
3) OG -—————- Steven Needs to have blockers to run effectively like any other running back. Well Goldberg/Bell both suck.
4) RB -————— Jackson is fast on the decline phase. Part of the problem has been he has needed to shoulder a load when he can’t anymore. Slow down the phase by giving him a reliable backup.
5) DT -————— Robbins can’t do it all by himself. He has the stats of an elite DT, yet the Rams have serious problems rushing the passer? Because the guy next to him is worthless.
6) OLB -—— Needed it here twice
DONNIE FUCKING JONES FOR PRO BOWL!
by stlcardsfan4 on Dec 28, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Gary Gibson
has been extremely undervalued this season and your comment just showed why that is. Gibson has been very good. Not saying we don’t need an upgrade but “worthless” is as far off as it gets.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
gibson needs to stick with what he knows:
which is nuttin!
Perfect, couldn't agree more
Keep TE as is. We passed on Ed Dickson and took Murphy. OUR MISTAKE!
a "TEAM NEEDS" list like most others, but it ain't relative to just the draft
1) DE or OLB
2) OLB or DE
3) rb – compliment to Jackson that has outside/edge speed
4) OG
5) OG
6) S
Rams don’t ned to worry about TE’s. It seems as if they have some good young talent to work with already. Rams need impact players on the egdes first and foremost.
1. OLB – Biggest hole in our defense
2. WR – I actually kind of like our WRs right now with DX being healthy, but we do need another good WR, at minimum we need to resign Mark Clayton.
3. G – I want the rams to build an elite offensive line
4. DE – Gotta make sure the D-Line continues to be our biggest asset on defense
5. FB – A stud FB who can catch a few balls would be great
yes
i like the FB mention. oft overlooked.
but a guard and a FB that can lead block and run and catch would be awesome.
i aksed before, but any FA FB’s like this or draft eligible FB’s that fill this mandate?
Bradford to Onobun!
2 words.
STANLEY HAVILI. Passes the 4 pillars with flying colors.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
Havili is exactly who I have in mind for that position in the draft
I’d like to have 4-5 Stanley Havilis.
Last year the fans were split between drafting Bradford or Suh.
This year the debate is shaping up to be weather to draft a WR or not in the early rounds. Our biggest needs on offense are OG. We need some heavyweights with attitude in the middle of the line not just for run blocking but to stop the penetration and give Bradford a real comfort zone in the pocket. Half of the QB’s in the league would look as good as that dork Brady with that O-line. The only way to stop or slow down a great O-line is with an equally great D-line and LB’s, our biggest needs on defense.
What will Stan do in FA? All of us would love to see some high profile players come here as FA but I have my doubts. Stan is low key and Spags seems to prefer developing young talent. But after this year we should be able to attract some of the top talent.
So, if we were to sign no FA (totally unrealistic) my choices in the draft would be:
1st DE. Obviously the best pass rushers come from the early rounds and take less time to develop.
2nd OLB. We need speed, intelligence and solid fundamentals here, and someone who can contribute as a rookie. Hard to find in the later rounds.
3rd OG. The need here is for size and strength and someone who can work their way into the rotation in their first year.
4th DT. Again, size and strength and potential to develop.
Come on Stan, open up the wallet and get us Jackson or Rice, Logan Mankins, and a good change of pace RB and the dome will be as loud as it was last week at every home game. And the tickets will be sold to Ram fans and not hijacked by the opposing teams fans.
Lets be honest
And say Goldberg sucks….i will….I dont wanna go WR in the 1st so that rd depends on who the BPA is still around. WR in 2nd sounds good to me (idk why but im feelin Hankerson from the U) and they dnt have a bad track record for WR anyway. RB are gems all around to be honest and UDFA are no longer cutting the reserve role…toston!!! so my idea is this.
1.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
2.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
3.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
4.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
5.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
6.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
7.BPA-OLB,OG,DT,DE,WR,CB,S
IN no specific order..sound good?
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
For the first time...
in I don’t know how many years, I finally saw the Rams on TV this past Sunday. And while I didn’t count the number of dropped passes, there were surely far too many. We need a reliable, stud WR in a huge way and I don’t care if he comes from the draft or from FA.
And I cannot, repeat, cannot, continue to put faith in Avery (hurt every year, it seems) or Clayton (coming off a major knee injury). It seems to me we have to follow the old adage of expecting the worst and hoping for the best and that philosophy requires that we draft a WR and then if Clayton and Avery are 100%, then we have options.
As for our second pick, OLB is where I place my vote. We are 3 plays (or perhaps more accurately, 3 drives) from being 10-5 and our lack of OLB competence is a primary reason.
After that, RB, DL and OL round out my list.
We need upgrades at....
Several positions, order isn’t as important as BPA, thru both draft and free agency. I’d like to know if our WRs are going to be healthy before we start passing up players in other areas to pick up a WR. I’d like to see us go to FA for OG, DT, and maybe OLB, knowing we need 2 OLBs. That would leave the draft for WR, CB, S, and COPB as well. Who we get in free agency could really impact our year next year because of the flexibility it gives us during the draft. One reason I didn’t want Bradford last year was the resultant lack of flexibility it left us in the draft process. It worked out OK, Saffold has been a gem, but the need for picking based on BPA is real. we can’t expect that kind of luck regularly
I think a TE will be available late, but if we drafted one I’d be pissed off. We passed up some damn good talent picking Onobun last year, our commitment to his development should continue, especially in light of Grahams performance last night for the Saints.
We only have 6 picks this year, if I’m not mistaken we have our first 5 and Baltimores 7th rounder. We swapped with them our 6th rounder in the Clayton deal, and traded our 7th rounder for Gibson last year if I remember right. 3K maybe you can verify, but if I’m right, I’ve yet to find a draft site or pundit anywhere who actually knows this.
Most sites don’t even have an NFC Waste team winning the division this year until recently so I’m not surprised but they should be on board with the transactions by now.
wrong, Chicago got our 7th rounder
For Kevin Payne
by dbcouver on Dec 29, 2010 3:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I thought it was a conditional pick
so as he never made the 53 man roster do we still part with the pick?
Lets be honest, we aren't going to be a top 5 pick this time.
So it is going to be harder than ever to mock a draft or pick our draft needs. The Rams FO always seems to have a different gameplan than what everyone else thinks and it has worked well so far.
…..We can still have some fun though
Sam Bradford
I don't think we have to be honest to know that,
it’s been impossible for weeks now.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I agree that it is a lot of fun to think about the positions
But with a (possible) 21st or greater pick, you may see Billy D switch to “best available” mode. Hopefully they will make sure to address each of their needs, but most likely not in the order we will recommend here :)
Not a player but the need is
O-Line coach that get more out of the players to creat a running game.
yeah i think we overlook coaches
i would love to see the rams olinemen tought tai chi and other martial arts to create a strong inner core and give them a real punch when blocking.
it’s not always about size.
Bradford to Onobun!
Let's put things into perspective.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
My top TEAM needs are
OLB, OG, WR, DL, S, RB (you can order it anyway you want, that’s my way).
I really think we’ll pursue Darren Sproles this offseason and he’s a top-notch 3rd down back/returner. The two big signings should be resigning Atogwe and Sidney Rice (or VJ, I just like Rice better). Then we should bring back Clayton. 2 needs down. Maybe we can get Mangold for guard but if not, Spags should sign 2 vets, one a little better at run blocking and the other better at pass blocking. Not saying that they would be bad at the other or that we should use them in obvious ways where the defense would know when we run or pass. Just someone where down the stretch, if we have the lead, we put in the run blocking specialist and if we’re behind, we put in the pass blocking specialist while they rotate throughout the game before that. Knocks out guard and depth for the o-line both.
Moving onto the draft. Spags biggest position of need is a defensive line so I expect him to go all defense with our offense shored up through FA.
1. DE
2. OLB
3. DT
4. FB (I want Stanley Havili so maybe we’d have to switch 3 and 4 to get him)
5. S
6-7. Anyone he feels he can coach up
If we only get one guard through FA then maybe grab one somewhere in the 5-7 rounds.
D-line will have to be a priority for Spags since, well, he wants a dominant defense and the line is what he loves most. Robbins and Hall aren’t getting younger and even then, you might as well grab young, extremely high potential guys while they’re still around to help coach them.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
mangold would never be available and is a Center... unless you mean someone else?
i think that we need to definitely pursue an FA guard (pass blocking) and draft a young run blocker.
then the run blocker can develop pass protect skills while learning from a good solid FA and be broken into the lineup through rotation.
I’d probably flip OLB and DE in your draft… I think DE in mid to late 1st round has a lot of boom or bust potential while OLB looks pretty safe.
DE in round 2 is more boom than bust… and also less of an immediate need.
Bradford to Onobun!
Totally meant Logan Mankins lol.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
I was going into Spags mind.
I think he’d want a DE. He might want his Strahan, Osi, Tuck combo over here.
"I kind of stepped my swagger up. You look at the Madden game and the swagger's so low, maybe they'll bump me up. Before it was a meatball flex, so you've got to liven it up a little bit." - Animal Jr.
http://www.drafttek.com/CMDRound1.asp
This mock has us getting…
1. Adrian Clayborn DE
2. Torrey Smith WR
3. Demarco Murry RB
4. Dejon Gomes SS
5. Jarvis Jenkins DT
now it seem good if we get OL in FA and an OLB. Though i dnt know who that smith guy is hankerson and baldwin were still up there so id get hankerson but idk it wouldnt be too bad with those so far.
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
That is surprising that they don't even consider OLB
I don’t believe there are a lot of top notch 4-3 OLB’s in FA this coming year. Unless we trade a 2012 pick…
Mason foster is pretty athletic
and has put a good year @ Washington projects as a mid 2nd so i’d like him…..if we r looking for a serious SLB thumper then nigel bardham or something from florida st is a stud in that department..ive seen him lay hat in games. From that website if it plays out similiar id certainly go Clarborn,Hankerson,Murry,Moffitt(huge OG), Jenkins, and from there we go depth BPA…so we get a freak rusher/run stopper, big play WR, KR/PR/3rd dwn Bk,dump truck OG, and a big athletic tackle with others to spare…DAMN i should be part of the FO scouting dept..or @ least an advisor…im already better than linehans squad…
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Wait...jus realized u wrote FA
Well some are but depends if they leave their teams …i heard Greenway from vikes contract is up idk if he’s a OLB but he’s pretty good as is Mcintosh from skins…others are Thomas Davis, Derrick Johnson, Ernie Sims to name a few like i said idk if they’ll stay or go but their time is up…also David Hawthorne from the seahawks is due too and he’s been pretty good from what ive read/seen…so how about some scouting our enemy ?
"Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory there is no PLAYOFFS."
Winston Churchill
Clayborn reminds me of Justin Tuck!
Spags may really see that in Clayborn, and I still have Sooner OLB Travis Lewis as a second round pick.
1. Clayborn
2. Travis Lewis
3. Demarco Murry (pilling up on sooners with Bradford, and Mark Clayton)
4. D.J. Williams TE , Arkansas
5. best available interior OLine
Some people need to do a little more research.
O.J. Atogwe, he resigned last year people. I’ve seen several people metion his name saying he is a free Agent. He resiged this past off season for 5 years. No worries there. And the Jets resigned Manigold this off season as well for 7 seasons. No way he gets traded. My top list goes for upgrade wehter by Free agency or draft is:
1. OLB
2. OG
3. WR
4. CB
5. FB
I don’t think we need a DE next year. George Selvie and Eugene Simms were drafted late last year and have played well on the few plays they have been in. I know James Hall is not young but he’s having a great year and people act like next year he is done. That makes no sense. Diggs was doing good as for one of the OLB but either side can be greatly improved. Bell and Goldberg should be backups. Improve guard is a must helps Bradford and Jackson. Wr Avery will be back, they need to resign Clayton to incentive 2 or 3 year contract and I would rather see Sydney Rice or Vincent Jackson or Steve Smth (NYG) picked up in Free Agency if they are not tagged and are available rather than draft a WR. And Last but no least FIRE the WR coach and HIRE Isaac Bruce for that position period.
the best
This is the best post to date on draft picks. I was thinking the same thing as I saw WR on the top of many. Sure we can find a great WR in later rounds but I prefer to go get someone that is already proven.
by Pete Chavez on Dec 30, 2010 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
NFC WEST DRAFT ORDER
4, 7, 13, 21
See how Division Winner is 8 slots down from 3rd place position???
Everyone knows that
Whats the point? I hope you’re done trying to throw the playoffs to improve draft position. That will never not be backwards.
Justin Blackmon
OSU – just want to say if he comes out and is still available for Rams, it will be a huge considration. The draft looks solid for linebackers on the outside and DE’s to. Rams got George Selvie last year, so I would expect a heavy dose of linbebackers and other edge players. For linemen, I say Wisconsin or half the Big 12….
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK OF AKEEM AYERS OLB UCLA?
1. Akeem Ayers OLB, UCLA
2. Mike Pouncey Guard, Florida (twin brother was just named to Pro-Bowl at Center)
3. Bruce Carter OLB, UNC (torn ACL will cause him to drop, was considered a first round pick)
4. Davon House or Brandon Burton both CBs that could still be available in the 4th round
5. Stanley Havili FB, USC
7. Colin Kaepernick QB, Nevada (6-6, 220 is similar in many ways to Cam Newton, he could be a similar Pro
to the Jets Brad Smith, a former college QB who converted to WR, wildcat QB, kick returner)
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