St. Louis Rams pass on Randy Moss
by Ryan Van Bibber on Nov 3, 2010 3:57 PM CDT
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Despite being starved for receivers, the St. Louis Rams decided against putting in a waiver claim for Randy Moss.
Instead, the Tennessee Titans claimed Moss.
It's not entirely clear as to why the Rams did not attempt to claim Moss, but they did spend a great deal of time considering him. Here's GM Billy Devaney, from Jeff Gordon at the PD:
I can't go into everything, I can say this: We spent the last three days . . . that's all we've been doing, researching this. We just came to the conclusion a couple of hours ago . . . this is the direction we're going to go in.
It makes you wonder if Moss had put out the possibility that he didn't want to play in St. Louis. Of course, there are any number of reasons the Rams could have decided to pass on him as well.
Moss brings controversy for sure, but the chance to add an established talent at wide receiver, a real position of need for the Rams, does not come along very often, especially at this point in the season. The Rams are still in the hunt for the NFC West title, but that is no easy road for an offense that lacks receivers with the ability to stretch the field.
It's a little disappointing to be honest.
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we need to know exactly why we missed out on Moss. He isn’t our player, and if you pass on him now, you pass on him forever, so they need to spit out why we didn’t get him.
If he refused to join us, say it.
If he didn’t fit 4 Pillars, say it.
If the players didn’t want him, say it.
WHATEVER YOU DO, SAY SOMETHING.
Saying nothing only compounds fan frustrations and we don’t deserve to be shielded from the truth like children.
Bradford to Onobun!
I am still waiting
to hear why the FO feels we do not need a legitmate back up RB
by Salti Cracker on Nov 3, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
From now on Devaney will be asking the questions
and answering them.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
by BruinHalo on Nov 3, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They
don’t owe the fans anything, they are putting up the money and making the decisions. You want Bill Gates to tell you why he did this or that? Good luck with that one, remember its big business not fan based whims.
it's a sport and requires fan interest to allow them to make decisions.
you keep fans in the dark and they get frustrated, frustrated fanbases will nit pick anything you do ‘wrong’ and it can be the difference between giving an FO room to do their job or a really short window and unfinished job.
(i’m not saying we’re so fickle as to want Billy D and Spags fired over this BUT)
there are numerous people who still think this FO hasn’t done a good job… these sorts of cryptic answers frustrate those people and even loyal fans which can lead to unnecessary heat on the seat.
Being open and having good communication with the fan base is one of the most integral aspects of management/leadership/whatever you’d class Billy D’s role
Bradford to Onobun!
You make a good argument
but I think a business will asses the risk based on all the parts to make a decision. They have to walk the fence here, no matter what they do, someone is not going to like it. I’m going with the history of who they have picked so far, and that looks to me like they know what they are doing.
but at least be honest for the reasons not to, regardless of if people like it or not
if you’re being honest you can’t lose.
Bradford to Onobun!
i'm not upset
but i don’t like being kept in the dark.
it’s frustrating trying to involve yourself in the team as much as possible (as evidenced by active TSTers) but still being none the wiser.
a little bit of honesty and communication with the fans goes a very very very long way.
Bradford to Onobun!
What statement
has the front office made that was dishonest? And he did communicate with the fans. You just didnt get the answer you wanted.
It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.
You may not like their reason but
Everyone will get up in the morning, I hope, and be in a better mood and willing to support the Rams as they contuine playing their hearts out each week. They allow us to go to work and talk about how we won the game. Just look back a few years to see where we were and now where we are. Support the team as all actions will not be agreed to, 100% right all the time, be it calling plays, game clock management or releasing players.
I think that the GST spoiled everyone including me.
But lets face it, that was a fluke. Something like that has only happened once in the history of the NFL, not something you can expect to happen every 10 years. All I can do is keep the faith because I don’t know what the owners vision is. But so far it seems to be working.
Devaney is a real dick head that is the only explanation
Titans lost one WR to hamstring injury for a couple weeks and they grab Moss to fill the void that’s what teams do when they want to compete in this league,but we lose 3 WR’s and Devaney sits there talking and thinking about it for three days and in the end he leaves us with our dick in our hand,for me this was the last straw by this FO they truly suck
Watch your words used
Do we have to use such words, this is a family site with some young readers
I LOL'ed SO HARD
at that entire post… it may be unsuitable for minors but for ‘majors’ it’s some funny ish!
overreaction Wednesday/Thursday ladies and gents..
Bradford to Onobun!
Spags' system IS the explanation
Uh, no they don’t. Randy Moss may be great on the field, I’m not arguing that. But he’s a jerk off of it. Spags has spent 2 years building a great locker room culture built on his 4 pillars. Acquiring Moss could very easily and quickly rip that culture to shreds because of his attitude – just look at how he acted in Boston when he was playing for the Vikings! The team has been doing better because they’re playing like a TEAM. We bring in dynomite and there goes the rest of our season and any off-season hopes, even with Moss’ ability to catch. Personally I’m GLAD we didn’t get Moss. Now I just hope I don’t eat my words and watch the Titans suddenly jolt to the top of the NFL…
It was reported on NFL Live by Schefter
that Randy Moss stated that there were certain teams that he would not report to. If the Rams were one of those teams, we will never know.
Hope he said the Rams
If he told the Rams he would not play for them, maybe all the cry babies will then feel better and back off the FO for not going with MR. BIG MOUTH MOSS.
Show some respect
you don’t have to call people who don’t agree with you cry babies
by phxsuns on Nov 3, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
BIG MOUTH MOSS
That being said,we ,as fans, support and partially pay their salaries,we are entitled to some explanation instead of some stupid veil of secrecy.
Business is business
Yes we pay the salaries of the players but we don’t have all the details. They can’t stand up there and say he is a fing idiot, even if he is. So you want a breadcrum that you can live with, even if its a lie. Hey to each their own.
I hope those 'insiders' find out and let us know.
it’s what they are there for right?
or at least Billy could give us an explanation instead of smoke and mirrors.
Bradford to Onobun!
Sad sad day
just sad, this is the first time i have criticized the rams front office. Childress and Spags are friends, but seriously what was he expecting to hear. I personally think this eliminates the rams chances with tough road games in the second half. Locker room chemistry, thats BS, If he came in here and helped us win some games who cares how he acts. Start looking foward to the draft. BS, Shumer better get creative after the bye week.
I think how he affects the locker room is very important.
Spags is getting a bunch of young guys to buy into the need to play as a team and not let their ego mess things up. If he then brings in Mr. Ego himself, Randy Moss, the message they have been selling to everyone is shot. There is no way they can tell the rest of the team they have to check their egos at the door and play for the team, while bringing in Moss. The press covering the Vikings have said Percy Harvin was already beginning to show Moss tendencies after Moss had been there for just four weeks.How long would it be before the same thing happened to the Rams? A coach just can’t tell everyone they have to play for the team, then bring in a guy with a huge ego and a reputation of not playing for the team. Moss might have helped us on the field, if he felt like it, but he would have immediately started chipping away at the “team first” message Spags has been successful in instilling in the Rams.
I think Moss just has a grudge against us....
…after that beat down we put on the Vikings in the 1999 NFC Divisional playoff.
Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?
it's done lets move on
how long is DX going to be out?
is there a source for that or is this a really distasteful joke?
i’m all for distasteful jokes normally… but this is DANARIO ALEXANDER. too much love for this young guy to funk with our hearts here…
Bradford to Onobun!
just a really distasteful and dispictable joke by me said with frustration following the bad news on moss
i love DX and hope for the absolute best for him
im so frustrated with our front office
if moss hinted he wouldnt report to us then fine, a big Fuck You Randy Moss I hope you break your leg but if he sounded sincere about joining this team and it was just the vikings crap that turned us away from him then im really angry with our team for passing up on yet again a premier talent that could instantly make our team better
Buck, I love the enthusiasm but
If Moss was a 1yr rental then it hurts us long term. We make playoffs and receive lower draft for a guy that won’t be here next year? However if we could have gotten 2 year extension our draft could have been directed toward our D. And did you see his give-up plays? How’s that gonna stretch the field? No lie, I wanted him but Spaggs doing well, gotta trust the man.
The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!
by DevsLaRams on Nov 3, 2010 4:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I agree
I’m disappointed, but in Spags we trust… guess we just get to have an overreaction Wednesday/Thursday
also… I never hope anyone gets injured…
Bradford to Onobun!
In Spaggs we Trust
Hey Inf, that’s a good one. Need to get me a Spaggs jersey.
The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!
by DevsLaRams on Nov 3, 2010 5:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
lets see how much in Spags you trust when we lose all the away games in the second half of the season
This is bullshit we should have got Moss
I find the well we aren't going to win the Super Bowl, so let's go 1-15 attitude incredibly depressing.
Anyone that spouts off this bs should be ashamed.
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Nov 3, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't want to go 1-15, but...
the NFL system of giving the worst teams higher picks and allowing them to improve and compete is what gave us the GST in the first place. Renting a player like Moss hurts us in the long run. By improving our record this year and even making the … dare I say … PLAYOFFS, we hurt ourselves in the seasons to come. If we win this division, a real possibility, we go from the 13 pick to 22nd pick at best, and that would be after a week one loss. Lets allow the process to work and improve step by step.
I’m a Rams fan. I want the best for our team. I like many of the moves made for this years team. However, I would have liked if the Rams would have taken a chance on one of the proven talented players. Talent like Moss, Owen would put fan in the stands. They make the game more interesting. They can help any team in the league win games. Moss would force opposing defenses to double and at times triple cover. This leave other receiver in one on one coverage. This turns them into superstar like players even if they are of average talent. Teams will have to game plan for Moss. This also give Jackson more running room. Rams make the playoffs and believes in themselves. They upset a team or 2 in the playoffs. Anything is possible. Next year more talented free agents would want to play here even for less money
I was starting to wonder if this was another underhanded plan by Bill Belicheat....
…The Patriots were very close to getting Moss back. Can you imagine if the Titans passed on Moss and the Pats brought him back in? They traded him to Minnesota for their third round pick just before the Vikings took on their division rival Jets probably hoping the Vikes would ring an L on them. After games against Dallas and Green Bay, Moss “participated” in a game against the Pats but played very underwhelmingly. The play that he gave up on could have been a TD. He seemed a lot closer to the Patriots players, coaches and owner almost like he was still with them.
Things that make you go hmmm…
Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?
sounds reasonable...until you think about it
Whatever you might want to think of the Pats, how does this make sense to Randy?
“Hey Randy, come over here” says Belichick one day early in the season. “I’ve got this great idea. I know you’re in a contract year and all, the last chance you’ll probably ever have to sign a big contract, but I have this great idea. We’re going to not throw to you a whole lot these first few games, and it would help if you shot off your mouth some too. Then we’re going to trade you to the shipwreck that is the Vikings with their bungle-headed coach. Go stink it up there for a few weeks, put up lousy numbers, and even better yet start calling out your coach on national television until they are forced to waive you. Be sure that you were such an ******** that no other team in the league will sign you, so you pass all the way through waivers. Then WE will sign you and pay you the league minimum salary! How does that sound, Randy? You on board?”
Um…I don’t think so.
Well....I thought it sounded pretty good until you put it that way.....
Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?
I'm pretty sure that
the titans were the only team to put in a claim, so I guess the pats weren’t going after him.
Passing
on Randy Moss and Vincent Jackson in the same season = Epic Fail
is Marvin the Martian still available?
They will notice and they will giggle.
Can he get separation from the DBs?
And he’s pretty short. We have enough short receivers.
"I have something 95 percent of all those All-Stars only wish they had: a World Series ring. If I had to choose between that and being an All-Star, it would be no contest. I’d grab the gold ring and never look back." -Tim Salmon
assuming the rams could have gotten VJ for a reasonable price = Epic fail
2nd and a conditional 3rd is pretty ridiculous and hefty and they rejected that offer from i forget what team
boooo
but after watching NFL primetime, or whatever NFL show I watched, I see the reasons they passed.
I guess we’ll be drafting a WR, who’s draft eligible next year?
I met Joe Halahuni's parents.....in Alaska. Jealous?
i dont know much about that guy but i want us to go after an absolute stud or none at all
because we have a bunch of good receivers but no great ones. well i wouldnt be against going after anyone with height later on in the draft
+1
The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!
by DevsLaRams on Nov 3, 2010 5:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe there will be some pretty good WRs
available in free agency after this season. Guys like Sidney Rice and Vincent Jackson. How would one of them look in a Rams uni?
you are correct...partly
there will be good receivers available, but the Rams won’t acquire any of them. The FO will them to be:
too injury prone
too not 4 pillars
too expensive
too old
too young
etc
If you look up "freak" in the dictionary...
you’ll see a picture of Moss. He’s pretty much made it known he’s not willing to put out the effort for anyone but the Pats. I don’t have a Titans schedule in front of me, but if they play the Pats this season you can bet he’ll be a no show. I’m not sorry we passed on him one bit.
+1
You are correct sir. Moss only wants to play for a winner. And right now he considers New England the team.
He’s a Cancer…and we’re better off without him.
What a stupid non move!
What are they thinking? No guts, no glory!
We have another chance for WR
Tenn will have to let someone go to add Mr. Moss to the team. If they let J Gage go we could go after him and sign him.
Gage isn't very good.
one thing I remember about Gage is on Madden 10 and 11 he is a possession receiver… who can’t catch in traffic… yes I’d argue that Troy Williamson or Ted Ginn have higher CIT ratings than Gage in Madden… of course we all know that the ratings dude is a fool, but no smoke without fire right? lol
Bradford to Onobun!
Look at the Rams roster on Madden
How many times have you been pissed about a player that got rated lower than what you thought on the Rams roster?
It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.
literally every time lol
but it makes all the more fun kicking some punk’s cowgirl using ass lol
Bradford to Onobun!
Good job FO
The last thing this team needs is an old Diva WR. Spags has this young team playing hard and with more enthusiasm with each win. We sure don’t need a WR that quits on his routes as soon as he’s touched. Especially with our developing rookie QB. Let’s take the 2nd or 3rd best WR with our 1st round pick (as long as they’re at least 6’ 4" and about 220 lbs, no more frail little speedsters please) and get V. Jackson.
I don't know if Moss wanted to go here or not.
His teammates really loved him. AP just tweeted great things about him, and Percy Harvin is mad over it.
Of course Harvin is mad about it.
First, it means he will get a lot more coverage. Further, the sportswriters up there are saying Harvin was already starting to act up like Moss and was learning how to be a diva from him. Now who does he have to finish the lessons in being a diva?
Here is a question for anyone who knows.
What would he be allowed to say by the NFL. I know he is restricted as to what he can say about players that are currently employed with other teams. So if Devaney did an explanation of why they didn’t take Moss would he be in danger of tampering?
It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.
I came across this
The term tampering, as used within the National Football League, refers to any interference by a member club with the employer-employee relationship of another club
That is the first part.
Now wouldn’t talking bad about Moss violate that?
It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.
Thrifty is one thing, cheap is another
I think we’ve taken the four pillars thing about as far as it can go outside of Wonderland. The reality is that the among the top talent in the NFL, you will wait a lifetime to find that talent that meet the narrow criteria that Spags and Devaney has apparently set. At 3.34M for the remainder of the season, I hope this wasn’t about money. I am getting a little tired of the Rams constantly bypassing talent even when the price tag is fairly reasonable.
My life's unique distinction is being one of the very few who bought (and suffered through) Rams season tickets in Anaheim from '86 to '94. Boy, I miss those days.
I'm leaning toward thinking...
that this was the right move. Like everyone else, I liked the idea of having a proven long-ball threat, but I’m betting Moss would have been a pretty big pain in the ass. Also, do we not go down field ever because we don’t have anyone that can run the routes? Really? Or, is the offense just predicated on the short underneath stuff, the quick hits,etc to take pressure off of the O-line and let Sam work his way into a full blown offense without getting beat up like he was the first couple of weeks? I agree we need to stretch the field more often but I don’t think we need Moss to do it. We just need to unload once in a while to start keeping defenses honest.
Lol why is this guy bringing up madden ratings to judge talent?…
by markg1127 on Nov 3, 2010 5:51 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
So disappointing
Why not take the risk? If he does not work out, you cut him. We already know that at least one team was willing to take on his contract. He makes them a better team and when it comes down to it I would rather win with a bunch of jerks and douchebags than lose with some upstanding citizens.
I was so excited about the possibility and now I feel completely let down.
Also
What does this say about the confidence in your team’s players when you assume they could not handle being around a guy like him. That somehow he could magically dismantle a franchise in 2 months and that everyone would turn their backs on the coaches if we were to give him a shot.
by Salti Cracker on Nov 3, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Clifton Ryan
tweeted that he spoke with some players and said Moss is a good teammate. Players love him. Coaches hate him. The media doesn’t like him.
How would Ryan know?
He got drafted by the Rams and has never been on the same team with Moss.
Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?
Look here is the deal
I wanted Moss as much as anybody, but that’s based on wanting to win. The guys that make the decisions on who to bring abord have to think about a lot more than just winning a few games. I’m not a GM so I don’t know all of it but I do know that so far they have been picking the right players. I have to trust that they know what they are doing, they haven’t done so bad ths year, its not their fault the guys keep tweaking knees like they are going out of style.
does anyone EVER look at fanshots?
they need to be put somewhere else… more visible…
but incase you don’t like them or never look there… We are working out 3 DT’s…
and Sam Bradford Mic’D Up is available on NFL.com
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d81bd7589/Sound-FX-Bradford-mic-d-up
there’s the link.
i implore Fanshots be put in a more favourable slot so people can see the little golden nuggets often posted there.
Bradford to Onobun!
i tried to watch it at work
internet too damn slow. i’ll wait till i get home
I met Joe Halahuni's parents.....in Alaska. Jealous?
I'm pretty sure there is a way for us to put them on the front page
But unfortunately I don’t know how. Sorry
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
One of the only reasons why i would of wanted him is for a point good ol schft brought up. If we signed him n he played or not he signed elsewhere this offseason we would’ve gotten a comp pick for him. Probably a 3 or 4
by markg1127 on Nov 3, 2010 6:42 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
If Devaney and Spags didn't want Moss
I for one understand, they were right about King Sam, Saffold, and Clayton (among others) so I give them the benefit of the doubt. I’d rather have average receivers that play their hardest and keep their mouths shut than a great receiver who regularly will just not try AND cause commotion within the team. Amendola>Moss
I wanted him at first
then my wanting started to wane a bit.
At this point in time………I’m fine with not getting him.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
Personally I feel that the front office has no intention of us being a playoff team
They have not made any aggressive short term moves to be competitive this season. They may very well be happy if we finish 4-12, get draft picks for next year and rest on winning a few more games than last year. Does anyone else echo this sentiment?
yes, yes and yes
Devanay’s track record is to pretend to “make a run” at someone and then bow out at the last minute.
no kidding.
Everything so far I’ve yet to see either the logic or the direction in the way he and Spags have built this team.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
The people in the front office...
are idiots. And as for Devaney, he should be fired for his weak explanation.
Everybody seems pissed off about not taking Moss but..
..how many of you were pissed when we took Rodger Saffold in the second round in last years draft? How many of you were pissed that we took Bradford and not Suh? How’s that turning out for you now?
Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?
Whats wrong with suh?
He looks just as good as I thought he would be.
by Salti Cracker on Nov 4, 2010 10:26 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably not
My point was that originally it was not stupid to want us to draft suh over Bradford. I don’t think you go wrong with either guy. I would have loved to see what impact suh could make on our defense. He is a beast
by Salti Cracker on Nov 4, 2010 12:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm just saying,
Yeah, Suh is looking good and probably would have improved our D but our D is improving by itself anyway. Suh would have made it that much better but who would have been facitlitating the offense? Marc Bulger? Jason Campbell? Michael Vick? Jimmy Clausen? I am very satisfied with the Offensive rookie of the month!
Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?
you guys are nuts
I love this FO and what they’ve done. Can u name a bad move made thus far? All they’ve done is clean house n brought in ppl to help.
by markg1127 on Nov 4, 2010 7:52 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Non moves
Like how they brought in a capable change of pace running back or the #1 receiver people have been asking for since the off season.
Do bad draft picks count as well?
by Salti Cracker on Nov 4, 2010 10:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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