Randy Moss Landing in St Louis Favored
by VTramsFan on Nov 3, 2010 8:08 AM CDT
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PrintThe Randy Moss saga continues, as today at 12pm EST, anyone willing to put a claim for the boisterous WR will have to have their ticket in play.
According to Chris Mortenson (heard on Mike and Mike in the Morning), who is known for his fairly accurate intuition (and inside sources), the Rams are the #1 spot he'll most likely land. Mort says that we'll all know by 12:30 EST today, where Moss will land. Note that it isn't the NFL who will make the announcement, but the team that picks him up.
Will we have a quick presser today? We'll see.
With injuries decimating the Rams WR corp this year, and with the Rams being in serious contention for the NFC West title, one has to wonder why in the world the Rams wouldn't at least give Moss a look. Albeit there is an approximate 3.4 million dollar price tag for the remaining 8 games, the Rams certainly should have the money to put on the table.
With no draft picks necessary to make the move, and other than dealing with the potential attitude problems he has shown, there really isn't much of a risk. Can our young team handle Moss, IF issues arise? I find it hard to believe that Spagnuolo would not step in fast if that were to happen. Let's face it, is Spags better at player management and motivating than Brad Childress? You bet he is in my opinion. No favorites here.
Is Moss a cancer? That is debatable, but no one can argue that the situation in Minnesota was very unfavorable to Moss who was also fighting for balls from the fairly stout Minnesota WR corps..
One thing is for sure, he won't have to fight very hard in St. Louis for opportunities. Looking back at the number of times Mark Clayton was targeted, I think Moss would be very happy in St. Louis so long as Shurmur utilized him. That may be the real question here.
Say what you want about Moss, but if we sign him, you can say goodbye to 8-10 men in the box. Steven Jackson could have a monstrous final 8 games if that were the case. The Rams would have a whole different look on offense, and teams will have to pick their poison. Is that worth the risk though?
We'll soon see how this will all play out.
UPDATE 10:39AM: According to Adam Shefter, "One more reason to claim WR Randy Moss: team that loses him this off-season in free agency could get back a compensatory draft pick."
Makes it even more advantageous?
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I really want this to happen
but I’m just not confident that this is going to happen…
I'm confused
why 12:30?
Any team can put in a claim up to 3:59 PM, no?
Unless it’s Buffalo who puts in a claim this morning, no team can know for sure until the end, right?
Team will most likely announce first by 12:30
according to Mort
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
The Rams have had their share of bad luck
Only fitting that we get some good luck too.
The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!
by DevsLaRams on Nov 3, 2010 8:47 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I really do feel like we are in this for sure
I mean in the past, the front office has said ahead of time they weren’t interested in a player. They have said nothing about Moss so far
Sam Bradford
I saw this a minute ago:
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NFL TEAM ODDS TO ADD RANDY MOSS
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St. Louis Rams 7-2
Seattle Seahawks 4-1
Washington Redskins 9-2
New England Patriots 5-1
Chicago Bears 11-2
Kansas City Chiefs 11-2
Miami Dolphins 13-2
Oakland Raiders 7-1
Tennessee Titans 15-2
San Diego Chargers 9-1
Dallas Cowboys 20-1
Any other team even
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Odds courtesy of Bodog.com
technically yes
but Randy can just not report to the new team, which would result in a stalemate through the end of the year when he becomes a FA
yes
it;s a transfer of a contract. Now, he doesn’t have to play. At which point we’d have to cut him or just let him sit out. But there isn’t a no-waive clause
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
damn you jb
and your 10 second head start
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
3k maybe you know the answer to this
if the Rams claim him, then we are on the hook for the rest of his salary.
If he doesn’t report to us, what portion of his salary do we still have to pay Randy
i wouls imagine none
If you don’t show up for work you don’t get paid…if anything we could fine him…
by RamsFan7 on Nov 3, 2010 9:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
we are on the hook for the portion not being paid for by Minnesota, yes
Even if he doesn’t report, as waiver claimants, we’re required to pay him unless we outright cut him.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
hmm well, im not too surprised
my friend’s source said the rams were likely to get Moss…. and my friend’s source is a good one because… whoops i’ve said too much
im actually serious
my source is pretty reliable and if randy makes it to the rams, we will get him
by stlcardsfan4 on Nov 3, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
If We signed Moss and he performs well...
And we decide to sign Moss for a couple more seasons…
Moss – Clayton – Amendola – DX
(Gilyard – Gibson)
Uh-Oh – Fendi
I like that.. I like that a lot
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Donnie may also stay and replace Gibby.. who we could trade
for something..
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Or replace Gilyard... who hasn't impressed
and could spark more trade offers due to ceiling
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
we gotta give avery his one more year
hes such an incredible athlete. remember how good he looked his rookie year. i believe he was just a product of a very poor system his second year. he wasnt looking bad in the preseason this year up until his freak injury. hes gonna come back motivated as hell and id certainly take him over a guy like gilyard. i know people are gonna say avery is injury prone but then what about DX
I just made that correction above and agree
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Just In
49ers not expected to claim Randy Moss or Shawne Merriman
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 3, 2010 9:56 AM ET
It appears that we can rule out the San Francisco 49ers as a destination for either of the two high-profile players on today’s waiver wire.
Matt Barrows of the Sacramento Bee reports that the 49ers are not expected to put in a claim for wide receiver Randy Moss or linebacker Shawne Merriman, both of whom will be available today. The 2-6 49ers come in fourth in the NFL’s waiver priority order, so if they wanted either player they’d have a good chance of getting him. But they apparently don’t.
I don't see Buffalo either
.. no team out of the playoff would should…
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
would = hunt
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
i didnt expect the 49ers to take him
the only other nfc west team that seems reasonable would be seattle
and we have dibs before them
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
See update above...
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/29495106264
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Ooohh
That’s an interesting plus.
So is a 5th or 6th round compensatory pick (my guess) worth 3.4 million?
You're looking at it all wrong.
You wouldn’t be claiming him for the sole purpose of the draft pick.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
5-6th rounders
If this is the compensation, 5-6th rounders often don’t make the roster. Think of it as another lottery ticket, that you might get lucky and get a usefull player.
Hoomanawanui? Selvie? We could use that pick.
by Pekka for Predator Pontiff on Nov 3, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
for sure
hopefully, get a useful player.
Redskins working out 20 free agents today
Wow, there could be a whole new bunch on waivers after today.
Mike Mayock's chatting on NFL.com...
Just asked him about the Rams. Sort of a ‘duh’ answer from him, but encouraging nonetheless from one of the smartest guys in the room:
“Tim, Brooklyn, NY
Mike – one of the most interesting teams I see, for the rest of this season and beyond, are the Rams. What do you think of the job Spagnuolo is doing with them? The team seems to respect him immensely, and rally around him.
Mike Mayock, NFL Network
Hey Tim. I’m a big Steve Spagnuolo fan. Love watching his defenses as he developed as a young coach in Philly, and his players play hard for him. Another key in the development of this organization was the hiring of Billy Davaney as GM. They now have a clear-cut process in place for all of their personnel decisions. Sam Bradford was the right pick at the right time, and if stays healthy they have a franchise QB, a RT in Rodger Saffold and a LT in Jason Smith. The foundation is in place, now they have to support Bradford with some skill position players."
He needs to switch it around to Saffold at LT and Smith at RT because in my opinion Saffold has done a good job as a Rookie at LT and I believe he will only get better.
by bobhugehands on Nov 3, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
i cant take the waiting
Need an update!
by RamsFan7 on Nov 3, 2010 11:17 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
update from NFL.com
4 teams still in the hunt:
St. Louis
Tennessee
Oakland
Washington
St. Louis has higher priority than those 3 teams. This is from Michael Lombardi who I think is the best NFL insider by far (even more than Schefter or Glazer), so if he says it I’ll believe him 100%.
I think we're beating a dead horse
we just have to wait and see if they get him.
Everyone gave reasons for getting him and reasons for not getting him.
I met Joe Halahuni's parents.....in Alaska. Jealous?
Rams gotta do this
PLEASE MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
And even is we lose him, we get a draft pick!
I just hope Randy is on board with it cause I can see him not reporting
seahawks and niners apparently not interested
http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/25642533
this is good news if we choose to pass on him
I still can't believe they spent a 3rd round pick on him
and then put him on waiver. The Vikings are a joke, their only capable QB option is older than some coach. I think Childress is the worst coach in the league, even Matt Millen would do a better job than him.
I would have to disagree with you, Childress is bad but I believe Wade Phillips is worse.
by bobhugehands on Nov 3, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
New ESPN rumor
Their rumor mill requires an insider subscription, but here’s a portion:
The St. Louis Rams appear to be the favorites to win the upcoming Randy Moss lottery. But should we all be so certain that the Rams will place a claim on him?
In most work environments, employers check in with references when considering a candidate for employment. As Jim Thomas of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch notes, the Rams are no different when it comes to Moss. Thomas has word from sources that the team is engaging in research and discussions before making their decision. As Thomas points out, “that research almost certainly will include a phone call or two from Rams coach Steve Spagnuolo to Minnesota coach Brad Childress. Childress is one of Spagnuolo’s best friends in the business, and it is Childress — and the Vikings — who released Moss on Tuesday.”
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
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You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yes
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You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I wanna know
just how much pasta a RMoss Jersey gonna cost. Two bags full?
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You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I'm going to have to ban this user.
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
instead of flaggin
all the spammers, i’m just gonna start rec’ing them.
I met Joe Halahuni's parents.....in Alaska. Jealous?
In case you have not read it yet,
Check out Marmie’s Fanpost here for “proof” the Rams do not want Moss.
He presents some very insightful “quotes” from Rams players, coaches and FO.
Oh boy, new wrinkle to the randy moss story fellas...
It has been reported that randy moss will sit out the remainder of the season if he is not thrilled with the team that picks him up because ‘he wants a ring’. Now the rams are certainly in a position to go to the playoffs but their chances of going to the super bowl are slim. The rams may reconsider moss now because why spends a few mill on someone who may not even show up?
http://nfl-facts-and-rumors.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/25643946
Yea.. strike 3
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
and here's the article
that CBS sports piece cites: link
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the h/t
I’m gonna front page a FanPost on this.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Nov 3, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If he refuses to report, doesn't that make his contract null & void but still cannot sign
with any other team until end of season?
correct
he wouldn’t get paid and could not sign with any other team. He’d be under the Rams control (if the Rams claim him).
Something to consider though. If he does sit out, and signs elsewhere this offseason, the Rams would still get draft pick compensation without even having to pay him the 3 mil.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
i figured if the rams had a good convincing conversation with him they would go for it
but after hearing he may sit out for the remainder of the season will likely have our front office shy away from him.
I CAN'T TAKE THE SUSPENSE
I don’t know why either.. I doubt we’ll make a ply. Just a guy feeling.. .after all, hasn’t that been our history?
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
LMAO
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
Why can't we edit our comments LOL That sucks
I probably can with moderator priveledges come to think of it LOL
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
ply = play... guy = gut
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
I've worked shoulder to shoulder with assholes before
That’s life boys. Sign his ass, and let’s win the freaking NFC West and host a playoff game. Geesh! This isn’t that hard a decision.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
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Take the leash off of the offense pleeeeeeease.
Signed, Rams fan.
I've been talking to a friend of mine all day about this through text.
He lives in Minnesota and is a huge Vikes fan.
He just texted me something hilarious. What if Moss gets claimed by the Patriots? This would create the situation where Moss was a Patriot, was then traded to the Vikings, he then tanked it against the Pats, gets released and then goes back to New England.
How fast would Childress have to get fired if he just basically gave the Patriots a 3rd round pick and a win for absolutely nothing. I mean, that’s kind of where they are now, but if he goes back to the Patriots, that’s like kicking a man in the balls who just got punched in the stomach.
Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.
- John Wayne
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