CFB watch list for week 6 / 2011 NFL Draft open thread
by 3k on Oct 5, 2010 6:30 PM CDT
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PrintFirst off, here's my watch list for this week. I figured since I got it done so early, I'd throw it out with an open thread, especially since there's college football on a Tuesday - yes, the Sun Belt is that desperate.
The game tonight is between Troy and Middle Tennessee St. on ESPN2 in a half hour. And while most of you might not give half a Swedish crap about Sun Belt football, this is one of the few chances you'll get to see a legitimate NFL prospect, and one that could find his way onto the Rams' roster: Troy WR Jerrel Jernigan. Jernigan's small (5'9", 190 lbs.), but he could also be the fastest senior in college football; for those of you who wonder if that's too small for a burner WR, bear in mind DeSean Jackson is barely taller, and weighs less. Russ Lande at Sporting News just mocked him at the bottom of the first to the Bears. Most draftniks, myself included, would probably suggest that's a bit wacky at this point, but not entirely out of the ballpark. If the front office is intent on finding someone to stretch the field out for Sam, and they don't think Donnie Avery fits the bill any longer, Jernigan immediately becomes a candidate.
A couple other random notes:
- I'm eager to see Nebraska play more challenging opponents, starting with the Thursday night clash against Kansas St. If you're trying to really evaluate top prospects like CB Prince Amukamara, DT Jared Crick and WR Niles Paul, it's a bit unrealistic to put much stock into their performances against Western Kentucky, Idaho and South Dakota St. Their next four, however, are Kansas St., Texas, Oklahoma St. (overrated) and Missouri. Those are much better games for NFL prospecting.
- Unless you're a fan of either team, really like watching Big Ten football or have the draft flu, I don't know why you'd be very interested in Penn St. v. Illinois on Saturday. If, however, you fall into the third category and you haven't seen Illini RB Mikel Leshoure yet, you should flip on ESPN2 to start your college football day for at least a couple Illinois running plays. Big Dirty can play.
- The Kentucky-Auburn game is of specific interest to me as a draft-evaluating Rams fan, because I want to check out Kentucky RB Derrick Locke. I noted above that Troy WR Jerrel Jernigan could be the fastest senior in college. If he's not, then it's probably Locke. For those of you looking for a change-of-pace back to pair with Steven Jackson, Locke seems like a prime candidate who could be had in the middle rounds of the draft.
- And just for fun, I threw Nevada-San Jose St. in at the end. I'm not really high on anyone in the game for the Rams, but if Vernon Gholston and Aaron Curry had followings, Nevada OLB Dontay Moch is sure to create a clique on TST as well. He might be the fastest big man I've ever seen for straight-line speed. Mocking Dan at MTD did the work and verified with Moch that he had run a 4.19 40-yard dash. I say again, 4.19. Titans RB Chris Johnson ran a 4.24 at the combine. If Moch, who is 6'1" and 245 lbs., comes anywhere close, Nevada has its first big prospect since, uh, maybe Marion Motley, and that took research. And yes, the Mach-3 jokes have already been made, and yes, you're going to make them anyway.
What else are you TST draftniks thinking about? Holler.
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http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/wac/2010-08-18-preview-nevada-dontay-moch_N.htm
Apparently Moch ran a 4.08 and a 4.12 before that 4.2 .
That's just silly
I’m still hoping he stays healthy all season just to see what he does in the pre-draft season.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 5, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I have only seen a few highlights
But I havent heard his name too much, is he just fast? Is that his only move, just to run by the OT?
More or less
I wouldn’t say he’s “just” fast. He is a FBS starting OLB. He does need polish, and certainly to be successful in the NFL, he’ll need to learn the limits of his own speed. Moch gets caught in overpursuit sometimes because he gets into opponents backfields so quickly. It’s a matter of coaching.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 6, 2010 4:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Al Davis
just crapped his pants.
Sam Bradford drops back, sees Laurent Robinson in the open, and he completes the pass for a gain of 28! Oh- Wait, looks like a holding penalty is going to call this one back...(Oh wait; Barron's gone, ignore that last sentence).
Jernigan ?
Interesting take on the burner but IMHO I think we need size on the outside. Burners don’t help you in the redzone, they to small. IMHO
The only thing comparable to a Rams win is a 49er loss!
by DevsLaRams on Oct 5, 2010 7:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sure
But that didn’t stop the Eagles from taking DeSean Jackson, and look what he’s been able to do. But I agree, he’s not much of a red zone threat at all.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 5, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
with needing size; though Bennett didn’t work out for that in the Linehan debacle era. We could potentially get away with a few burners (assuming Avery gets back to full speed) and tight ends catching in the middle, however.
THIS year's the year. I hope....
for some reason i can't open the downloads
On the watch lists. My comp sucks
by dbcouver on Oct 5, 2010 7:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Try just saving it
It’s just an Excel spreadsheet, and I saved it as a 97-03 file. As long as you don’t have Microsoft Works 2.0, you should be able to open it.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 5, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't Ohio St play Indiana?
I want to watch that match-up Brewer on Heywood. I think they’re across from each other.
Yup that's the morning game
on ESPN & ESPN3D. Semi-related note – I wonder if watching tape in 3D would change my evaluations of some guys. I can’t think of why it would. Still, the whole idea of watching stuff in 3D just seems so unnecessary to me.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 6, 2010 4:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Locke
As a Rams fan and UK student, I can tell you that Derrick Locke is small, but is unbelieveably fast. He originally came to UK on a track scholarship. He’s a tough little dude whose not afraid to run inside, a quality KR, and is fairly elusive, but speed is his major strength.
Also, for those of you watching the UK-Auburn game, keep an eye on Randall Cobb. As a Junior he could come out, although I hope he doesn’t. He had been called the best overall player in the NCAA by Mel Kiper before the season. Came in as a QB, and played there some his freshman year before moving outside, although he does run a good amount of wildcat. Not breathtakingly fast, but is elusive and finds ways to pick up big yards. As wildcat qb, WR, PR and KR, as well as holder, he is almost always on the field. This also spreads his stats out, but is a beast. He’s just a great football player.
Wow, its amazing
And i thought that i was the only one that lived in KY that loved the Rams :). Yea, as sandlot said, Derrick Locke is extremely fast, but has a smaller frame, much like that of Maurice Jones-Drew. He would be an awesome back up for SJ and i think that he will probably be overlooked on Draft day, and would be a really nice late round pick. As a UK fan and student I would love to see him go higher in the draft and get a starting job, because i think he could handle it, but as a Rams fan, i would love to see him in Gold and Blue.
Also, i agree with sandlot in the fact that UKs best known player, locally anyway, is Randall Cobb. If you know anything about the past few years in Kentucky, you know that we have made 4 straight bowl games. The last 2 seasons, i would put on Cobbs resume more so than any other 2 players combined. When we needed him, he was our QB some plays, our RB some plays, an amazing Kick Returner and a CB/WR combo. When he is in the WR position, the QB usually uses a screen pass and lets him go to work. He is truly an amazing athlete that I think would be great on the Rams.
sorry to repost!
Just thought i would add in the fact that in the UK playbook the Wildcat formation is known as the “WildCobb”, if that is any indication of how much this offense depends on him.
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