OK, is Shurmur really that bad?

by NachoD on Oct 28, 2010 5:23 PM CDT

Some football experts say it takes 3 years to learn the West Coast Offense. Looking back during Shurmurs tenure with the Eagles, he came in with Andy Reid the year that Donovan McNabb was drafted. That initial year they struggled to a 5-11 mark. Last year was Shurmur's initial year but keep in mind, we didn't bring in Sam Bradford until this year. The second year of the Reid/McNabb/Shurmur project, after 8 games they were at 5-3. We easily could be at 5-3 this year if not for some inopportune fumbles, missed field goals and missed interceptions. Hell, we could be 6-1. The rest of that second season in Philly, the Eagles went 6-2 to end up with an 11-5 record. They made the playoffs and got into the divisional round before losing to the Giants. The way the Rams are putting pieces together, I'm feeling a little upbeat about the second half of the season and think we can actually give the Seahawks a run for their money. (Doesn't it piss you off that the Seahawks are being looked at as runaway favorites for the NFC West even though we slobber knockered them 20-3?)

Another thing that is encouraging is the fact that Spags worked on that defense with Jim Johnson and I recall the Eagles defense at that time being pretty good. I also remember the Eagles being regular visitors to the NFC Championship game. One thing that is common between both teams is the Eagles for the longest time never really had a number one reciever. You all remember what happened to the Eagles once they picked up Terrell Owens. Their only visit to the Super Bowl is what happened. They lost that game to the Patriots by 3 points.

The way we (including me) are all clamoring for Shurmurs head, keep in mind what it will do to Sam Bradford's development to keep getting new offensive coordinators. I would hate for him to become the Rams version of Alex Smith. With the firing of Jimmy Raye in Frisco, Smith is working with his SIXTH coordinator. No wonder his career is where it's at. I'm not saying that Shurmur is the God of Offensive Coordinators, he is FAR from that. I'm just saying give it some time and lets see what can happen once Bradford has some healthy, productive receivers to throw to.

Doesn't it feel good to have the Rams mentioned with a "HMMMMMM" after it as opposed to having the word Rams mentioned followed by "HA HAA HAAA!!"

Gotta Go To Work!!!

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I understand that it messes with

Sam but I’m sure Sam is alittle frustrated at Pat. Dont you think Sam wants to take shots down field once in awhile? We did it against SD and scored..then we havnt done it since

by ramsaj28 on Oct 28, 2010 5:42 PM CDT reply actions

I'm sure Sam want's to take shots.

I havent been able to watch too many games cuz I usually work on Sunday’s. I notice that Bradford is right up there with the league leaders in pass attempts. What I would like to know is what percentage of those passes are what could be considered downfield shots and what percentage are dink and dunk passes?

Is it just me, or does Sam Bradford look like he can be one of the Jonas Brothers?

by NachoD on Oct 28, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions

we didn't throw deep once in the bucs game

NOT ONCE. we hardly throw down the field. and this doesn’t really upset me ATM. I wouldof liked to see some deep shots but remember with the bucs game I think the only recievers we had active were Danny, DX, Gibson, and Robinson. DX hardly played, and the other 3 guys aren’t deep threats so I’m not that mad that we didn’t take any deep shots this game.

by Dougramsfan on Oct 28, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions

DX played alot

he was in on most of the running plays he did play alot he had the key block on the Amendola reverse i belive…..yes shurmur does deserve some of the blame but Bucs pass defense isnt as terrible as you think add that into the fact sam was off target it wouldnt of turned out well

so relax on not taking enough shots bucs didnt want to give up anythin deep

by Smiff620 on Oct 28, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes, he is.

Onobun > Gates

by Carneros on Oct 28, 2010 6:50 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Changing offensive coordinators shouldn't happen often, and definitely not in the middle of the season

People need to be rational. This team is ahead of where most people thought they’d be and it’s in the middle of coming a long way back up from the very bottom fo the bottom. Calling for Shurmur to be fired right now is needless panic.

by CoachConnors on Oct 28, 2010 8:18 PM CDT reply actions

No. Don't change OC in middle of season

This team was in every game except 1 while losing major parts of the receiving corps.

by rlf707 on Oct 29, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions

they'll come down on him

in the middle of the season, spags should say something to him. If things don’t change, he’s gone after the season

"Hello Mr. Bin Laden, my name is Randy...I'm a geologist in America"
-Randy Marsh

by sergey606 on Oct 29, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't even change the OC after the season.

Shurmur realizes our strengths, SJax, and our limitations, deep passing. And firing him at all is going to stunt Bradford’s growth as a QB. Having a young QB switch OC constantly usually does not work out for the best.

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Oct 29, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions

I say like the article I posted in fanshots

Let Sam run the no-huddle and call his own game.
Take the restrictions off the play book and let Sam win or lose on his own calls.

by OakCityRam on Oct 29, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

Great!

Fanshots says DX tweaked his knee in Friday practice! Who caused this WR injury curse anyway?

by OakCityRam on Oct 29, 2010 4:14 PM CDT reply actions

Let's wait and see if pat shurmur can redeem himself

First and far most alex smith is a bumb and nate davis should be starting for the 49ers. Second the only thing i have to say is that he better step his game up because last season he didn’t do jack and looking like the same this year. We got rid of bulger thank god now we have sam bradford lets go crazy and throw some deep balls not no stupid slants and passes near the side line let sam bradford go crazy. Until i see some better play calling and lord i hope to see some good one pat shurmur is the problem.

by rams4evr on Oct 29, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions