CFB watch list for week 8 / 2011 NFL Draft open thread (OLB edition)
My watch list for week 8 is available now, but it doesn't do justice to college football as a whole. We're in full conference battle to the death mode in college football now. While that means great things for the SEC and Big East in that every game is winnable (or losable depending on how you're looking at it, with your glass half empty self), it can produce some pretty weak games for the other major conferences. If only we had the powerhouse matchup of Temple at Buffalo all day, every day...
At least the college week starts off well. UCLA takes on Oregon three hours from now in a game that offers some notable prospects. I'll single out two for Rams fans: UCLA OLB Akeem Ayers and Oregon RB LaMichael James. Ayers is pretty well known among our LA-based TSTers, and for good reason. He's a stupidly talented athlete who can play the pass very well and has the size and power to contend in run defense. My only concern is his first step. His instincts aren't nearly as sharp as, say, James Laurinaitis, but his speed and strength bail him out at the college level. He'll need some tutelage to refine those instincts to make the most out of his ridiculous physical gifts, because at the NFL level, the better RBs only need a step. I've got him as a certain first rounder though, as I think that tutelage will come. As for James, a Texas HS prospect who I almost got to see in person out in Texarkana way back when, he'll be draft-eligible as a redshirt sophomore. If you're looking for an opposite style from Steven Jackson, James is practically the perfect example. Tiny, fast, quick, shifty - he can do it all. And even though he's still in his second year, he played lights out as a freshman, so there's plenty of tape. I'd like to see him more involved in the passing game, but that's more on Oregon's playcalling than a deficiency in his game. As to whether he'll come out, I haven't heard anything. I do know that the #1 team in the polls, but the #2 team in the BCS standings, has a replacement for James out of Texas: Lache Seastrunk. Does that matter at all? I dunno. Food for thought. Although if he does come out, he'd be the youngest looking NFLer ever of all time period.
Early on Saturday, you can get a look at another redshirt sophomore who I think could help the Rams: Michigan St. DT Jerel Worthy. His undefeated Michigan St. Spartans take on Northwestern Saturday at noon ET. He's quick for his size, but I'd love to see him get more work. I know Michigan St.'s playing for now, but damnit I'm a NFL fan. Show me the prospectery!
I've got Auburn-LSU and Missouri-Oklahoma (BCS #1) on the list as well. I know there are plenty of Akeem Ayers fans out there, but Oklahoma has a great 4-3 OLB prospect in Travis Lewis. Personally, if I could choose between Ayers and Lewis for the Rams, I take Lewis in a heartbeat.
The night game, a Pac-10 clash between Arizona and Washington, has one of my favorite under the radar OLB prospects: Huskie OLB Mason Foster. He's not a great athlete and is suspect in pass coverage, but I really like him in run defense and aiding the pass rush. Arizona QB Nick Foles will be out with a knee injury, so if you're up Saturday night, see if Foster plays a part in keeping backup Wildcats (the mascot, not the formation) QB Matt Scott from leading 'Zona to another big win.
Draft thoughts? College football thoughts? Any thoughts? Besides those, perv... Holler.
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Everyone agree that we need faster Olb but I also think that they need to be better on pass rush. So I’ve never watch Lewis nor Ayers play, can they rush the passer too?
Oh definitely
They’re both premier OLBs. But if you’re just looking for a pass rush specialist, there are plenty o’ candidates. I mentioned Washington’s Mason Foster, but UNC’s Bruce Carter, Texas A&M’s Von Miller and Nevada’s Dontay Moch are three other top senior pass rush OLBs worth looking into.
From the junior class, I’ll skip the tops and give you a dark horse prospect I like that’s not getting a lot of hype: Nebraska junior Lavonte David. He’s a bit thin for the run game, but I think his frame could taken on a bit more weight. He’s a good tackler, and he is persistent to the point of perfection. He’s jumped out at me in the Huskers’ last two games against Kansas St. & Texas (i.e. solid college level competition). Check him out if you come across the Nebraska-OSU game.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 21, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
mochs fast
But he doesn’t tackle well. Makes the hit but can broken from easily. I also like Burfict from ASU, but we don’t need an ILB.
by dbcouver on Oct 22, 2010 1:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Is Locker really falling that quickly?
I know he had a shocker against Nebraska, but he since recorded wins over Oregan and USC. It was only 8 weeks ago that he was the consensus #1 pick.
If he is dropping, does he eventually pull a Jevan Snead disappearance or a Jimmy Clausen type slide?
Ayers is the only highlight on the utterly pointless existence of the ucla team.
I fully expect ucla to be demolished tonight so we can smoke #2 Oregon at home next week. Suck on bRuins!
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"
"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."
-Sam Bradford
by TrojanRam on Oct 21, 2010 6:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
its sorta starting out that way
UCLA looks very tentative so far. Horrendously bad pass for an INT to start the game too. LaMichael James looks like he has good hands, and wieghs about 84 pounds.
by CoachConnors on Oct 21, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha! That, was embarrassing.
Damn that Oregon offense is impressive. Shootout at the Coliseum next week. Barkley can do it.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"
"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."
-Sam Bradford
by TrojanRam on Oct 21, 2010 11:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
my prediction
Ducks 58. Trojans. 1
by dbcouver on Oct 22, 2010 1:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ha! Really? You think we're barely as good at home as ucla was on the road?
Utter fail. You’re selling the offense short. I’m fully aware we can lose next Saturday, but you best believe we’re going to put up more than 14 points.
"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."
"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."
-Kobe Bryant
Chris Mortensen: "You know it's the 'Show-Me' State right Sam?"
"Pshh, 'Show Me.' (smirking) Yeah, I've heard that."
-Sam Bradford
by TrojanRam on Oct 22, 2010 1:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Which of course means
You’ll be calling in to Turf Show Radio since it’s during the LSU-Auburn game…correct?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 21, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
My god what a huge luxury it is to already have Laurinaitis in place
No hate for Rey Maualuga, but does anyone else besides me think passing on him for Laurinaitis was a Devaney genuis-call for setting a foundation they can build on? Who’d you rather have “tuteling” the next OLB rookie?
Ima try and watch the UCLA game tonight. Very interested in defenders.
Laurinaitis and Rolando McClain
only legit 4-3 MLBs in the las two drafts, but Laurinaitis will be a better mentor
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 21, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
yes, absolutely
have watched them both closely, MLB is so important, and you’re absolutely right. First time in a looong time I’m really excited about what they can legitimately build on. First time since the Greatest Show went dark, actually.
by CoachConnors on Oct 21, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Fred Robbins
The free agent pick up stabilized the Rams middle,do you think the Bucs should pick up a reliable vet to help the rookies.
Isn't that why
Ryan Sims is on the team?
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 21, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
SB's Akeem Ayers page lists no tackles
Sup with that? He really has no tackles and 2 INT’s this year?
2 INTs yes
no tackles, no. I use cfbstats.com. Here’s Ayers’ page.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Oct 21, 2010 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Much better, thanks
He didn’t have a great 1st Qtr, got beat a couple of times including a 1:1 with the QB who out sprinted him to the sideline, turned the corner and scored a TD. After Q1 I needed to do other stuff so I don’t know if he picked up his play after that but it was pretty obvious your scout info was right on that kid.
But here’s what I really want to know from your watch list: which of those young fellas is man enough to piss and shat his pants and keep playing like nothing happened? Because apparently it’s required.
by CoachConnors on Oct 22, 2010 3:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Ayers stunk it up last night
Missed too many tackles. Speedier guys just went right around him. If he can’t tackle, it’s time to think about someone else as a draft pick for the Rams.
Come on 3k...
No love for Cincy and USF? I must admit i like the big east more than i should but i would have thought that a friday night game on espn2 would get some draft watch consideration. What do you think about the skinny raymond cb from usf. Looks like a spags corner to me 6 2 runs a 4.40 forty? I’d take him with our annual 3rd round cb pick, looks like raw talent

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