Suh Sweepstakes: A Quick Look at the April Shenanigans to Come
For all intents and purposes, the Rams are looking down the barrel of a gun at a massive defensive tackle, one Ndamukong Suh, the consensus #1 pick of the draft. He's been widely thought to be the best draft prospect of 2010, and one of the best in a long time. It's hard to argue against; when do you remember a defensive tackle notching an astonishing 161 tackles, 19.5 sacks and 34 QB hurries in a mere 27 games?
But there are two things that everyone seems to be ignoring:
1) He will most likely be rewarded an absolutely MONSTER contract- it wouldn't be shocking if he got near 50 million dollars guaranteed before he even played for the NFL. Rookie Salary arguments aside, that's a huge paycheck for the current owners, who I might remind you are trying to sell the team. This, obviously, is something they will not like. New owners will most likely not want to pick up a 120 million+ tab for a team that has won just 6 games in the last three years. There is no doubt he's the best pick, but will this huge financial cost be worth it? It most likely will severely limit the Rams spending in FA, unless they can find new ways to save. Their may be no cap, but that doesn't mean the Rams automatically have blank check.
2) You can guarantee that other teams will want Suh. This provides a unique opportunity for the Rams. They've had chances to trade down before, but some team may be desperate enough to land Suh that they will give a offer to good for the Rams to refuse. Would it be worth it? Would the Rams be able to utilize those picks, or would they become an Adam Carriker? It's tough to say, but the most NFL ready prospect appears to be Suh. Giving up the chance to draft him, even in a supposedly "deep" draft, could be costly in team development.
Would you trust the Rams brain trust if they traded down? Would you be more inclined to ask for players or would you want draft picks instead? Would it be worth it to grab a Brandon Marshall and a first round pick? a Richard Seymour and a 1st rounder? Sound off in the poll.
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Let me start off by saying I would have absolutely no problem with drafting Suh
Dude is a beast. He will be an amazing player in the NFL. But if teams want to trade up for Suh, I think the Rams have to trade down for extra picks. One thing we should all keep in mind is that as a 1-win team, our immediate focus should revolve around the division we play in. The NFC West is more of a passing division. In terms of rushing yards per game, the Rams ranked 20th in the league, which was the highest in the NFC West. The 49ers ranked 25th, the Seahawks 26th, and the Cardinals 28th. Now if the Rams were playing in the NFC Beast or the AFC North, I would say take Suh no matter what. But if teams in our division can’t really run the ball that well, if the opportunity to trade down presents itself, the Rams must do so, no matter how tempting it is to take Suh.
no!
you know what? suh is a beast dont get me wrong but the thing is we should go qb. jimmy clausen. i actually like this kid 3 years in west coast, cocky, he made golden tate who he is. i was reading a report and compared to all the great qbs in the nfl jimmy clausen BY FAR is the most nfl ready. clausen is the reason why charlie weis didnt get fired earlier. this kid has talent. falcons drafted matt ryan instead of dorsey. lions drafted matthew stafford instead of jason smith or aaron curry, draft clausen instead of suh and get more picks!
Clausen is undergoing toe surgery
Not that I think we needed a reason to avoid him, but we have one now.
Not that I don't like Clausen
…I think the Rams should pick him, but it’s especially tough he obviously isn’t the best player in the draft. Either way I think the Rams would make out quite well
I believe in 2010
My answer not in the poll
Trade the pick if possible, but not for a lot of picks….for a few very high picks. I’d trade the #1 for:
2 first rounders in 2010
2 second rounders in 2010
….and not at the bottom of the round, either!
I know, I know…aint gonna happen. But this is fantasy football right?
Whoever can make that offer
Three way deals, whatever.
I don’t care who we trade with as long as it helps us.
I believe in 2010
i think with a talented DT in front of
Laurinaitis and Butler/Atogwe safety combo would be respectable defense.
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I'm concerned about the secondary
Corners that is. Bartell was pretty good this season, Butler and Atogwe were good, but the other side? the nickel? Bradley Fletcher will HOPEFULLY be back. Who is behind him? Justin King most likely.
The Rams are going to face a lot of passing next year.
I believe in 2010
Trade the pick if...
they can get the team’s second and fourth rounder and more picks next season.
Hey--why the panic?
Everybody wants to label the Rams as “lowly no talent” team and a lousy 1-15 team. How does everybody know that? We haven’t seen our team play together yet. If the draft happened to come AFTER camp, I’d bet we might have a whole different view of our real needs. Yes-our second and third string lose 15 games. Even at that, if they had of spent more than 5 days as a unit, they would have upped that L-W stat also. I’d like to put a lot more thought of drafting from the standpoint of talent off the IR to field a first team. Suh would help any team, sure, but he’s not a make or break deal for the Rams. Neither is a #1 QB. We’ll still be super next season whether we trade down or stick it to Suh.
If we start off losing next year, this post will self destruct and erase all traces that I made it.
The thing is that
the “2nd and 3rd strings” you speak of is our starters. We lost a lot, but quite a few were still here.
I believe in 2010
You are correct, but-
I frame it like this-SJax is a starter, but without Smith and Karney he’s about 30% That’s 2nd string stats, even tho he is super when with his cast (all of them). We played this season as though we were on the 2nd or 3rd level because a sprinkle of starters helps little. Just a cold look at the bottom line. Even with the starting talent we DO have, most of the time it was negated by week to week plug-in’s. Week 17 was really nasty.
Unless you can get 2 first rounders from some team
I would say no, he is the best prospect in 20 years at DT, he would make your defense much better and Spagnola is great when his D-line can get consistent pressure and Suh has the best chance to give that too you w/ out signing a high priced FA. Also there will be some good QBs in teh second that can be developed
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by nicholas.rodriguez on Jan 5, 2010 9:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
It would take at least two first round picks, with at least one of them in the top 10 of the order. If Seattle wanted to give us their two (6 & 13?), that might be a reasonable deal – but I’d still try to also get a third rounder from them as part of it. That probably won’t happen though, since I think they want to get a RB and QB.
what do we do with Butler and Otogwe?
i know you said justifiably
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King Kong Suh
DT’s wouldn’t make as much drafted #1 as a QB……..he still will get a big pay day, but if we draft one of the QB’s tack on about another %10-%20……….if we trade down to get more than 1 first rounder, now we’re paying for 2 first ound picks, which depending at what number can be the same as drafting the #1………..make sense? i hope so………the more I think about it, the more i think we need King King Suh, not just his abilities, but also to put butts in seats(if you read my sig, you may wonder why i wanna see butts in seats, but i wanna see the Rams succeed no matter what)………..Drafting down doesn’t guarantee anything, all it guarantees is more bodies, of which any or all of them can be busts………but then again so can Suh………i’ll take my chances with Suh
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Two words
Albert Haynesworth.
I Guarantee his agent will ask for the same contract worth.
I believe in 2010
Denver Has 2 First Rounders
Brandon Marshall and one of their first rounders for the #1…………that would be an attractive offer
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Spags is drooling over Suh
I can only imagine what he has planned for him. Keep the pick at any cost
I voted to trade down for players and picks but
the more i think about it the more i believe that Spags and Billy D should draft the best available player. when a team goes 1-15 it’s pretty obvious that there’s alot of upgrading needed. taking the No.1 ranked player in April, whether is Suh or someone else, can only help improve the team (unless it’s Berry coz we wouldn’t need him)
I like the idea of drafting Suh, but
I buy into the idea that no one or nothing is untouchable for the right price. Someone might be willing to do something insanely stupid to get Suh. Remember when the Saints gave up, literally, their entire draft to get Rickey Williams? I’m not saying that will happen, but Suh is a hot commodity, and perhaps we could get people to give too much for him in a bidding war.
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If we trade
I want the other team’s #1, a second, a fourth, and their #1 next year. And that #1 this year has to be top 10. I’ll even throw in a late rounder this year for their third round next year.
You want it? You gotta pay for it.
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

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