Your Toronto Rams
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 31, 2010 8:26 AM CST
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PrintCould the St. Louis Rams be heading for the great white north, eh? Apparently one of the three bidders in the mix for the team is a Toronto-based outfit. Don't start packing your long underwear just yet, it's a big leap from here to Toronto. Miklasz, the columnist reporting this, has a tendency to over-dramatize situations as well, since that's the stuff that sell newspapers. Of course, that doesn't mean if a Toronto-connected buyer were to swoop in that the Rams would be headed there. I'd be interested to see what the read NFL's read on the market there is. Baseball hasn't fared so well north of the border, and an NFL team would require a lot more butts in the seats than the CFL.
Where Bernie is right on the money is that if you're wanting the Rams to stay under the arch, you probably ought to be pulling for Checketts. But there's another reason you should be pulling for Checketts: he's been a committed and by all accounts damn good owner for the Blues, the city's always threatened hockey team.
One other factor that weighs into the forumla is that nothing happens without the blessing of Stan Kroenke. The third bidder for the Rams is reportedly a Chicago-based party, but that's not confirmed. The most logical leap, for now, about the prospects of a Chicago connection buying the Rams is that at least they move them to Chicago, but they may be more inclined to find greener pastures - LA? - or stay close to their team which would just be a few hours down the interstate.
Personally, I'd like to see the Rams stay in St. Louis. This is my city. My family's been here since before it was a US city even. BUT, with technology being what it is, you can at least still closely follow the team where ever the play. Beauty, eh?
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The reason I don't want them to move is...
not because I won’t be able to follow them, but I wouldn’t be able to make it to 6 games if they weren’t in town.
He didn't need the backboard on that one!
I live in Cal
Was a fan when they were in LA, in Anahiem and St Lou. Only get 1 or 2 games a year and I don’t care where they play. Win, Lose or Tie, Rams till I die. Come on Draft!!!!!!!!
by johnniewarthawg on Jan 31, 2010 9:25 AM CST reply actions
It's not going to happen
They had problem filling the stadium when the bills were playing in Toronto. If the Rams it will be LA.
The Toronto market is crazy...
Sports games sell like mad! The Leafs are sold out every game and they absolutely suck! Canadians love football, and guarenteed the attendence would not be an issue. However there has been alot of debate whether Canada would let an NFL team in because of the CFL. However, I would love it, and I know many others would as well.
Being from Montreal
I would be ecstatic. But the obviously solution would be to keep them in St. Louis. But the thought of my favourite team being a Canadian team would be amazing.
The name's Rams, St. Louis Rams.
Holy crap!
That would be amazing! I live 1 hour from Toronto!
(Drive by media)
Blame it on Bryan Burwell and others of his ilk (liberal media bias) for the public lynching of Russ Limbaugh. Rush a native Missourian and brilliant businessman would have kept the Rams anchored in St.Louis.
And how is Rush a brilliant businessman?
What business does he own?
How about this conversation stops right here.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Jan 31, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
I’m glad at least ONE other person here has some common sense. Limbaugh would be terrible for the team, and that’s that!
Now, only to be fair, I must play devils advocate….
What does running a business have to do with football?!?! Football is a sport and only played between the goal posts!
Lol! You guys are fun and keep keep me laughing. Keep up the good posts and the healthy debate! Go Rams! And go Suh!
On this team, we are all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
-- Lou Holtz
by RamsMan83 on Jan 31, 2010 7:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No Toronto
The Rams should play in St. Louis or move back to LA, but I don’t think Toronto is the right place to move a football team. The NFL wouldn’t want one of their teams in Canada.
Why not?
There’s already been speculation and innuendo that they’re looking to put a team in London. Why not Toronto?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
London would be terrible.
We’d have to fly to the US 8 times a year and visiting teams would have to fly all the way to London. And considering our division we’d have to go all the way from London to California, Arizona, and Washington. I really hope not. You shouldn’t need a passport to go on away games. LA makes the most sense in terms of the division but I hope they stay in St. Louis.
Yes to Toronto...or LA.
I know that this may not be popular with St Louis residents (and I would be upset too if I lived there) but Toronto is one of only a couple logical landing points with a move. I metioned my favor for Toronto when the news 1st came up….
http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2009/10/6/1072378/should-the-rams-be-afraid-of-rush#22467100
If an uncapped/non revenue sharing NFL is on the horizon – then I’d feel alot more comfortable with the dollars that can be provided by LA and Toronto from a competitive spending standpoint.
One obstacle against a move to Toronto would be the Bills (at least I would think). I’m sure they would fight against it due to the proximity and claim large losses of revenue from their geographical territory (similar to MLB arguments that Baltimore had with Nats and SF argument w/ a move to South Bay from the A’s).
Free Brandon Wood!
Toronto
would seem to only be good for about 2 or 3 games a year, I don’t see them being able to make money 8 games a year…………I’m sure as most of you know, Im a Rams fan that is from So Cal. I want to see the Rams come back to LA(i was gonna say “come home”, but theyre actually from Cleveland)…….it seems to be the perfect time i.e. new stadium approval, LA is a big market, there are still Ram fans in this area, so they dont start from scratch, Ed Roski wants to own or be part owner of a NFL team………I know you St Lou fans wont be happy with my post, but its the truth. The Ed is constantly being not sold out and the city is losing the team right in front of their eyes. St Lou, if you dont wanna lose the team, support them no matter what, buy tickets to the games no matter what product is being put out on the field, because if you don’t then you get put into conversations about teams moving………..
OK start the “LA lost teams already”…….“LA is not a football town”……….and “LA has a team, its USC”……………..its all BS, and if you know your history about why the Rams and Raiders left you would know that it was greedy ownership and a showgirl that had no business accumen and made a business move based on her “heart” (moving the team to her hometown, how sweet)…………..point is, fans should have never put the team in a position where a move is a possibility.Support your team no matter what……….think Browns, Bills, Lions, and many others………the teams suck all the time, but the fans still support them
Jake Locker in 2011
IF a move is made, an LA move would be nice
That is where I became a fan. I just can’t picture 2015 being close enough to beat other movable teams (Jacksonville mainly) there. That is unless Roski is part of the mystery 3rd bid (it sounded like Bernie was taking a shot in the dark w/ the Chicago guess).
Free Brandon Wood!
Toronto
I live in Toronto and am a die hard Rams fan. I can honestly say this would be a dream come true.
There is no question this city can support an NFL franchise. A good percentage of those individuals who fill Ralph Wilson stadium are from north of the border. We have the population, the fan base and the interest.
The one thing we don’t have is (a) a proper stadium, and (b) an obvious ownership group that wouldn’t charge crazy prices for regular joe tickets. In the games the Bills have been here the ticket costs have been outrageous and they have had to lower them. $100 for an upper bowl seat? That just won’t fly.
All this being said I hope the team stays in St. Louis.
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Feb 1, 2010 7:46 AM CST reply actions
How close is Toronto and Buffalo?
and would there be any “territory infringement” if a team moved to Toronto?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Pretty damn close
looking at a map – it’s just short of 100 miles. As I mentioned above – I think the Bills would put up every obstacle and road block they could to prevent it.
That said, Goodell does have an Int’l crusade he seems to be on right now. In all reality though, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the Bills themselves moving to Toronto in the not so distant future…..
Free Brandon Wood!
There would definitely...
be some hurdles for the new Toronto based ownership in this regard….it would not be like San Francisco/Oakland. I am not sure that Buffalo could support a team if the Canadian contingent did not make it’s way to New York on Sunday’s.
Dave "Howland" Randell
Co-Creator of RaptorsHQ.com
by RaptorsHQ - Howland on Feb 1, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Toronto won't happen
The NFL likes the fact that the CFL exists because it creates interest in football across Canada, with teams in 8 cities. If the NFL moves into Toronto, the Argonauts fold and the CFL follows suit. That’s why we hear about London being a possible expansion site and not Toronto. The NFL will never step on the CFL’s turf. Move the Rams back to Los Angeles where they belong. Send the Cards home to St.Louis and throw the Jags in Arizona… and no I will never let go of the 80’s.
by leonphelpths on Feb 1, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Why don't the Jags belong in Jacksonville?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
No U.S team will be moved to Canada
Goddell’s not stupid. In the age of outsourcing the last thing he’ll do is allow a team that has had good attendance to jump ship to another country. He’d get destroyed by fans and the media. The only scenario I can see is if a Canadian city gets an expansion team, but the CFL will view that as an immediate threat to their turf, and rightfully so. I think the NFL and CFL have a turf rights agreement to stop that sort of stuff from happening. So at this point theres no way the Rams move to Canada with all the sports politics involved. Theres a better shot that the CFL and NFL will merge than an NFL team setting up shop in the far north. If you don’t believe what I said then explain to me why Goodell planned for expansion in Canada rather than Britian? It would make more sense.
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