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It's over! Rams finish season 1-15

The St. Louis Rams have officially wrapped up the 2009 season. No matter how you describe it - transition, change, rebuilding, etc. - it's on to the next phase of the new regime at Rams Park. 

The game itself wasn't so different than what we've seen every Sunday this season. THe defense played well, but eventually had their flaws exposed. Chris Long finished the season strong. The Rams have a capable player in S Craig Dahl, and rookie James Laurinaitis concluded his season giving us glimpses of a bright future. The mostly replacement offensive line was a wreck, allowing eight sacks and never opening many running lanes. Keith Null was pulled because of the line's inability to protect the rookie. His receivers didn't help matters any, never getting open with any consistency. Kyle Boller remains Kyle Boller. Steven Jackson probably should have been on the bench before the end of the game. He carried the ball 20 times for just 63 yards, his third lowest total of the season. SJ39 finished his season with 1,416 rushing yards, the second best total of his career. Josh Brown nailed another long field goal and missed a shorter one. The post-games write themselves this year. 

With today's loss to the San Francisco 49ers the Rams secured the first pick in the 2010 NFL Draft. That pick figures heavily into the plans for next season, stating the obvious, but before we start to map out a draft strategy, let's discuss the season that was. 

One-win tops the last two seasons in futility. However, there are plenty of things that seem to be going right for the long-suffering Rams; a young roster, development of recent draft picks, Steven Jackson and the team seems to be pleased with the direction of head coach Steve Spagnuolo. We'll delve head-long into the season that was on more specific topics, but for now let's hear your thoughts on the season that was. Are you disappointed? Did you expect more? Are you optimistic about the future?

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It was an ugly year

but hey, we’ll be getting SUH in April!

Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
Follow me on Twitter: @zoomzoomj88
Looking forward to Cardinals baseball in 2010!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jan 3, 2010 4:10 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Bad season as a whole...

But there were multiple bright spots:

Offensively:

Steven Jackson is a monster. Donnie Avery did okay and would be a great role-player among great wideouts (which we don’t have) and Danny Amendola has shown time and time again why he deserves to be here in the 2010 season. Jason Brown put together a very good year as the starting center.

Defensively:

James Laurinaitis and Chris Long have shown where this defense is going, a very good place. Craig Dahl was a very fine replacement for when Atogwe and J. Butler would get hurt. Bradley Fletcher played very nicely before injury.

Special Teams: Josh Brown had some highs and lows, but in the middle of the season he was very good and consistent. Donnie Jones was awesome as always. Danny Amendola has had some very good returns and been very awesome in the special teams game.

by StopSpe on Jan 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

When the offense is so bad

they can’t make a first down, the defense will get worn out before the game is over. In the first half the defense played very well. The Rams just can’t ask them to be on the field for so long and shut out the other team in order to have a chance to win.

by andyrose on Jan 3, 2010 11:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Even though the most important number (win / loss)was the worst ever by any Ram team I do see where the optimists in the crowd see good things developing.With a good draft and a firing of the “O” cordinater I see where we could be .500 next year and though thats not great its worlds better then what we have had

If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

by peteyweestro on Jan 3, 2010 4:21 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I should hope so.

How do you not fire him? He’s supposed to be running the same offense as the Eagles, which relies on the big play and deep passes, and he rarely ever calls a play that can go for more than 5-10 yards.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 4:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah. I think personnel might be a factor.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 3, 2010 7:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea but more deep attempts would have been better.

And by deep I mean only 20 yards, we don’t have to go for 50 yard bombs, just some posts,deep crosses and in routes, and thinks of that sort.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think Shurmur was a mistake and he should be fired

       But will he? Just like I think Suh SHOULD be drafted over Clausen, But will he? Will there be as much faith and confidence in this new regime if the things we think should happen don’t? This is probably the million dollar question this off-season.

by dbcouver on Jan 3, 2010 9:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't that Donnie Avery's sole purpose?

I understand he’s been hurt, but here’s a stat I wasn’t hoping to be able to post: Avery had one reception all season for more than 30 yards, a 50-yarder against Indy in week 7. By comparison, DeSean Jackson had at least 10, just by looking at his longest rec. for each game.

You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Jan 3, 2010 8:15 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not positive,

but i’m sure Avery was the number one target of the defense in our passing game. Well, that and beat the hell out of our quarterback.

Put those two together (and factor in that Avery isn’t a number 1 receiver) and you’ve got a recipe for disaster.

Avery was about the only consistent member of the receiving corps. Teams weren’t going to give much attention to Gibson, Martin, Amendola, Burton, or Carter (Carter, right?) when none of them were at all established or very talented (or in Tim Carter’s case….both). Teams always had their number one CB on Avery and when you’re kind of a one trick pony, which Avery kinda is, he’s easy to defend. Couple that with QBs either scared for their lives or not hanging on to the ball long enough for Avery to get open deep OR games started by Kyle “Screen Pass” Boller, and you’re going to see very few balls thrown his way.

Only 1? Well, I don’t know if that’s appropriate. What I do know is that every #2 we had this year, whether it was Robinson or Amendola or Gibson, all seemed to be much better at simply getting open closer to the line of scrimmage. That right there should tell you that Donnie Avery is NOT a #1 receiver. I like him as a deep threat, but until we can get defense to focus on someone other than Avery, he’ll continue to struggle.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 3, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Robinson is our best bet for next season I think

Cuz I don’t see us being able to add anyone better before then.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I hoped for more wins

       I think Players and fans alike get used to losing to a point. That’s not healthy. I’m not saying anyone’s ok with it but, I think we need more emotion. Granted, this is coming from a guy who saw only 2 games this year. I can’t get the games in the fine state of WA. I depend complete;y on what is written in here for the game time developments.

by dbcouver on Jan 3, 2010 4:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Of course I'm disappointed.

Yes I expected more. From both sides of the ball. But mainly from the Offense.
If we don’t draft a Quarterback #1 overall we’ll be bottom feeders for a long time to come.

by ZamRam on Jan 3, 2010 4:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Or until we draft a QB first round.

I don’t know what I would do. I’m torn between Clausen/Bradford and Suh. I’d definitely rather have Bradford if it wasn’t for the injuries. So now I’m not sure which QB I’d want. And then, I’m not sure if I want Suh, or Clausen/Bradford. Maybe if one of them falls past 15 or so in the draft we’ll be able trade up from round two and get Clausen/Bradford, as well as Suh. Where these guys will be taken will become clearer as time goes on and with the combine. I can’t wait to see what we can do in the coming months and I’m praying for a capped year. 2010 NFC Champs…… Maybe.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

the thing is our d played well for 3 and a half quarters until getting gassed.

This was one of our worst offensive outings this entire year….I was on the suh bandwagon but now it looks like a QB in the first round is necessary

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You shoulda seen the game.

The O-line forgot to come out for the game. NO QB would have made any impact today!

by Knoxfan on Jan 3, 2010 5:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i actually got to see the game today. I live out in the bay area so they televised it but im talking in general. The only game where we where totally dominated on the defense was the colts game(but it was manning) and the titans game with the speedy chris johnson so when the lineman are healthy i remember them only giving up about 2 or 3 sacks a game. With a legitimate QB under center and another big target along robinson to throw to we could see a 6-7 win season. Especially if we get osi this offseason

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 5:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

The offensive line was truly offensive.

They didn’t block anyone all day. At least three time a defensive lineman came right up the middle virtually untouched to sack the QB. They showed a replay of one of them. The Niners ran a twist and the one guy ran across in front of our LG and supposedly wonderful center, made a right turn between C and RG and ran through untouched. Brown didn’t even make an attempt to block him (he wasn’t blocking anyone else on the play, so he had no excuse). It was pitiful.

by andyrose on Jan 3, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Not if we pick one

up in FA… Suh will make our D better for a long time. IMO no QB in draft compares to Suh, especially after watching him in the big games. He shows up to play w/out a doubt. Who do you like for us to pick as QB?
Will be fun to see who we pick in the draft and in FA this offseason.

by RamsFan1979 on Jan 3, 2010 8:30 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

it depends how on bradford’s shoulder checks out, if it doesnt get clausen. The rams can up the d line in the free agency. ray edwards of the vikings is a free agent and tony brown of the titans is a free agent as well and we all know about the osi thing. WRs are also attainable in the 2-4 rounds as well as free agency

*on a random note i dont know if it was just me but jimmy kennedy looked fine against the bears filling in for pat williams

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Uh yeah...

Because drafting a QB at #1 always makes the team better.

Actually, has it ever worked? Even in years when there were good QBs in the draft? Many turn out to be huge, painful busts.

The problem is, QB or no QB, there’s no one else on the offense with any talent (save Jackson, when he shows up). Even if they drafted a QB who actually didn’t take 5 years to learn the offense/NFL and become non-lousy, he wouldn’t have anyone to throw to.

by DiscoJer on Jan 3, 2010 6:00 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

matt ryan and the falcons? flacco and the ravens? chargers and rivers? steelers and big ben? eli and the giants?

come on man think about things before you say them

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

i also forgot peyton manning…..

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 6:23 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If any of those QB's came to the Rams in 2009, they woulden't have faired any better than Null, Boller, Bulger.

they wouldn’t have fared any better than Null, Boller, Bulger. Like Disco said-who would they have thrown to?

by Knoxfan on Jan 3, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

you see manning making collie and garcon look legit dont you. Flacco made the most out of a pretty weak WR squad aside from mason

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

with a healthy oline, robinson, foster, burton, and the always constistant run game from SJ any one of those QBs couldve come out with a 3000 yd passing season

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 6:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I reiterate-As a Ram, who would Manning throw to?

Until we get a TE and WR core drafted and healthy-same old song-you gotta have both, starting with receivers.

by Knoxfan on Jan 3, 2010 6:43 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

thats what i meant. anyone of those QBs coulve got 3000 yds passing as a RAM. The thing is the injury curse. you guys saw how many 49ers got hurt today so that indicates its not just us. the turf and conditioning coach really has to be looked into this offseason

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but he has Wayne.

So all the focus goes to Wayne and then Collie and Garcon are worried about less allowing Manning to get the ball to them. Flacco succeeds because he is a good QB, but more importantly, has a great O-line and running game with 3 guys capable of rushing for 1000 yards if given enough carries. (Le’Ron McClain, Ray Rice, and McGahee). He also has two veteran receivers who are capable of getting open.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

heap played like crap that year and so did clayton

by Habte E on Jan 3, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

ummm

Ryan Leaf. JaMarcus Russel. Jeff George. Andre Ware. Todd Marinovich. Heath Schuler. Rick Mirer. Tim Fucking Couch. Akili Smith. Micheal Vick. David Carr. Cade McNown.

Draft Suh!

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by Gregatron on Jan 3, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can't use Michael Vick in that argument

He was considered an elite QB before the whole dogfighting thing. There is a risk when drafting a QB first round. The risk is not being able to handle the pressure or not being able to perform as well as you are expected, not being arrested for dogfighting. I agree with your argument somewhat, but when you ready for a franchise QB the best place to find one is the first round. There is a risk, but when you need a QB, you have to take that risk. I think the Rams can get by with a second rounder this year, probably Tony Pike if anyone, and not use a first rounder for a few years if he doesn’t succeed then.. But they are probably going to draft first round next year if they don’t draft one high this year. If you never took the risk you wouldn’t have a shot at QBs like Manning, Rivers, Manning, Palmer, Elway, Aikman, Marino and guys like that.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 10:52 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can and will use Vick in that argument.

I don’t care what Madden 06 thought of him. He is very inaccurate as a passer, and not a very good qb.

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by Gregatron on Jan 4, 2010 8:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

well said

I am curious how everyone feels about going to FA compared to the draft for a QB. Also, how do you think Colt Mcoy fairs against Pike? I think there will be someone availiable late in the first round that they could possibly make a move, if they like one of these guys better than the other. If a QB is not taken with our 2nd pick, someone better be aquired in free agency or we are in trouble with Null. I just dont think Spags will be ok with Null as our started for next year. Mike Ditka should also be giving teams advice on how to aquire the #1 pick from us.

by ramsrule on Jan 4, 2010 5:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Eli Manning was the only one drafted #1 overall. Big Ben was the third QB drafted that year. Rivers was traded to get Manning. Flacco was mid-1st round. Ryan was the #3 pick, and then the Peyton Manning below, well he happens to be a REALLLLLLLLLY GOOD exception to this point.

by kickasskeever on Jan 4, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Again, I think...

…the future hinges on some key issues. Having secured the #1 draft pick, taking Suh is a no-brainer. The D-Line is the worst facet of our game followed only QB. I am pleased that my personal whipping boy, Chris Long, HAS improved over the last few games. I hope that bodes well for next year as Suh, Long, Gibson, Ryan and maybe a revitalized Carriker (doubtful) could make for a potent D-Line backed up by amazing player James Lauranitis at MLB. On offense, I hope we get rid of Boller and Reilly and maybe keep Null or a much much less paid Bulger for b/u QB. Maybe we could work some magic to get Quinn, Kolb, Vick, Pennington or Cassel? I don’t know. But we’ve got a rookie in Null and an old-timer in Bulger, so we need someone ready to start the 1st game next season. At WR, I’d go after Marshall from Denver and eschew the draft. The O-Line was a shambles in the last few games. But, if Jacob Bell comes back sound, then with Jasons’ Brown and Smith, we already have 1/2 a good O-Line. I promise things will be better without Cogs and Barron. So we probably need a FA acquisition and a draft choice for the O-Line. Goldberg, Setts and Greco can round out the depth. Sjax will still be in his prime, but he truly needs a capable b/u, not Darby, and a TE, not McMicheal that can block. I don’t know if Otogwe will stay, but Bartell and Butler would look pretty good I think, if we had a D-Line that could apply any pressure at all on the QB. Lauranitis needs a helper at OLB. Josh Brown is good for a few more years. And I hope we don’t kick many FG’s anyway. I prefer to go for TD’s as much as possible. Donnie Jones is an all-pro punter. Finally, we’ve got to have some better saner coaching. The offensive play calling has been atrocious all year. It’s consistently predictable. I’d prefer to see Shurmur go and, gulp, Mike Martz brought in as OC. Of course it’ll never happen. And, while everyone is in love with Coach Spags, he worries me. I mean the crazy sh*t like clapping his hands in the 4th qtr when we’re down by 30-40 points? Ever see Belichick Cowher or Singletary do that? And even in today’s 4th qtr meltdown, Spags is calling time outs with 2 mins left and the game hopelessly out of reach. What can that action do other than prolong the time to get somebody hurt? Think about it….

by edpjr on Jan 3, 2010 4:43 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

It's not Martz

Mike Martz only had Holt, Bruce and Warner. He lived on a team that Dick built, and never did anything on his own. When he lost them, he busted big time every where else he went. Why would you want a loser like that? Rehire Linham before Martz-there two peas in a pod.

by Knoxfan on Jan 3, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Like it or not, Martz is an offensive genius who helped create the Greatest Show on Turf.

He helped Detroit win 6 games in one season. That’s as many as we’ve won in the last 3 seasons combined. Martz was doing OK at San Fran too (7-9), but Singletary fired him because he’s all-pass while Singletary wanted strong defense and a running game as priorities. I personally don’t like Martz the man because of the way he trashed Kurt Warner, but he’s gotta be a better OC than what we had this year. Spags is obviously totally defense oriented. The two guys might complement each other.

by edpjr on Jan 3, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

"There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamnt of in your philosophy" 3K

Or mine too, for that matter. I just believe in telling it like it is with no sugar coating. I’m also not afraid to take a risk, i.e. Martz, Vick, Marshall, et.al if there’s a reasonable chance they’ll help out. I praise players ONLY when they deserve it AND the same goes for criticism – sorta like the old Vince Lombardi tactics. Chris Long absolutely sucked wind for the first 8-10 games, but then came on strong and showed a little talent and enthusiasm. Playing with a guy like Suh might even make him better (I hope). Conversely, guys like Barron and McMichael – take the train…

by edpjr on Jan 3, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

we are entering..

the most important offseason of this franchise’s history. i have been a big supporter of spags/devaney/chip, and we need to see a return on this lameduck season. we can’t afford to have a weak draft, not go after free agents, or be struck by another 4 year long injury plague. Every single component of this organization, from the trainers, to the marketing people, coaching staff and beyond need to take a few days off, and then be prepared to spend the next 6 months making or breaking the fate of a city, and a franchise.

by mooseknuckles41 on Jan 3, 2010 5:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

This team needs a lot of building on offense...

If they add Suh, I think they have the makings of a pretty decent defense.

But, the offense is a mess. There is an almost complete lack of talent on that side of the ball. Other than Jackson.

by DiscoJer on Jan 3, 2010 5:58 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

They need more than just Suh to be a pretty decent defense.

We need some CBs and LBs and then we’ll be solid. So then on offense we still need a QB, TE, #1 Receiver, #2 RB/Next RB after Jackson, OG and OT. That’s ten needs. Assuming we can get fill 3 with the first 3 rounds, that’s 7 needs. The depth will come from the last 4 rounds of the draft. If there is no cap we could cut it down to 2-3 big needs, as long as it is an uncapped year. If it is an uncapped year, we will be stuck at 6-7 unless we can made some good trades, and even then it would still be 5-6. This process will take even longer if it is uncapped.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

VICK

Would be a good pick up in the off-season. If the Rams are going to be who they say they are , a run based offense , Vick would be nice. He can get us at least 20 – 25 completions a game. He’ll help keep defenses honest , helping SJ get more production. He already knows the offense to step right in. Vick can also buy time for our recievers to get separation. He can be just what Billy D needs for the time being to take over for a decent price. He’ll give a 2nd rnd QB time to develop. And even better Vick can hopefully return to his old self and we’ll be set for longer. I know he’s not known for being a accurate QB , but he’s been productive enough to get to an NFC championship game. I was just wondering what you guys think ?

by RamMan1 on Jan 3, 2010 6:30 PM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

My post would get yanked

If I said what I though about vick as our QB.

by Knoxfan on Jan 3, 2010 6:34 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

As would mine.

Even if he was an accurate QB (which he isn’t by any conceivable stretch of one’s imagination), he’d have no one to throw to. All the other team would have to do is run 2 spies and him and they’d shut him down all day because Lord knows or WRs can’t win their 1v1s to save their lives.

I can’t stress how big of a fail it would be to bring in Vick, and I haven’t even delved into the PR issues.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Jan 3, 2010 7:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

spies at* him

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Jan 3, 2010 7:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Question

I missed the second half so could someone tell me what happened with Chris Long? Also heard SJax was yelling at people?

by jb22 on Jan 3, 2010 7:05 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

"Disappointed, not discouraged."

-Steve Spagnuolo

That pretty much sums up what I feel perfectly.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Jan 3, 2010 7:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

I know some are pretty emotional over a QB

But we can’t really go there with the overall first pick. Suh is clearly the no-brainer pick if we don’t or can’t trade down. Having seen the guy play, he will instantly make our defense better, how much though will remain to be seen. Our defense is much closer to being fixed than our offense, so lets make the right picks to move us into a top tier D. Remember when Miami a few years ago had the #1 pick, they needed a QB then as much as we do now. They took Jake Long and passed on Matt Ryan, who in my opinion is better than Bradford (bum shoulder) or Clausen (Brady Quinn II). Then with their 2nd pick took Henne, who has worked out fairly well for them. They also took Pennington as a FA and Miami turned the corner radically by NOT taking the QB with the first overall pick. Detroit took a good QB last year in Stafford with the 1st overall, what did that get them? ONE more win than us. whoo hoo..
Clausen and Bradford are not anywhere close to being Elway or Peyton Manning, so they should not be considered at the #1 overall. Suh (at this point pre-combine) is clearly way above either of those guys, so unless we get a good offer to trade down, the pick should be Suh, then look for a developmental QB in the 2nd (McCoy, Pike, Canfield).

by Mean Machine II on Jan 3, 2010 7:46 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed...

Suh – 1st, Pike – 2nd; then I’d go:
OLB – 3rd

by victorian on Jan 3, 2010 8:14 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I like Pike and he seems like a good fit for our offense

But lack of arm strength could be an issue. We don’t throw many deep balls but you still need the arm strength to hit some of the medium routes. Hopefully he can build some arm strength as he goes on, but I still think he could be worth it.

Can't think of a good sig

by Carneros on Jan 3, 2010 8:48 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I watched Pike play against Florida.

It was brutal. Why do we still think he can be a good NFL QB? When up against a good college team, he failed.

by andyrose on Jan 3, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I can agree with that...

The Rams have so many holes on offense that using the first overall pick wouldn’t have as big of an impact as using that selection on the defense. If the Rams plug the line with a run stuffer and someone who can collapse the pocket during passing downs then the secondary will play much better. Looking at the Rams games during the season the defense held its own during the first half but usually collapsed in the second because of our poor offense caused them to be out on the field too long and because the opposing QBs had all day to throw on them. They got pressure from the edges on defense from Little and Long, but the interior of the line was a major weak spot for the Rams. I think the Rams can win 6-8 games just from strengthening their D alone. Suh is the best pick for this defense.

by Da Rams! on Jan 3, 2010 9:31 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Draft predictions start NOW!!!!!

If I had to guess right now at possible draftees or positions to draft, this is it thus far below:

1st rd. = Suh or Gerald McCoy

2nd rd. = impact out. linebacker or impact DE

3rd rd. = Freddie Barnes – receiver (plays slot – which we need better play from)

4th rd. = DB or guard/tackle

5th rd. = DE or out. linebacker

6th rd. = OG/OT

7th rd. = Fullback or DB (D-!AA, D-2 schools?)

Note: IF Terrence Cody of Alabama falls to 2nd rd., I would seriously consider him over an impact outside linebacker or D.E.!

Man, If you had Suh and Cody to add to the D Line, STOUT!.

by jlcdb70 on Jan 3, 2010 8:04 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Dude!

Cody is about as capable of playing outside linebacker as my grandmother.

Okay that’s unfair. My grandmother has a better 40 time.

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by Gregatron on Jan 3, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

OOps

I totally misread what you wrote.

I need more beer. Carry on.

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by Gregatron on Jan 3, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

T-e-r-r-i-f-i-c! The seasons over!

Now, can we just skip the Superbowl this year and get to the NFL Combine?

by Da Rams! on Jan 3, 2010 8:30 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

BTW.

Can we trade Carriker to the Chiefs for Dorsey. Dorsey, Suh, Long, and Little sounds like a fearsome line to me in 2010.

by Da Rams! on Jan 3, 2010 8:34 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Thats understandable...

Dorsey’s playing in the wrong defensive scheme in K.C. The Chiefs use a 3-4 defensive front, but Dorsey played in a 4-3 defense at LSU. Carriker would fit their system well and Dorsey would play better in the Ram’s 4-3 defense. It would be a win-win for both teams. Worse case, you traded one draft bust for another so nothings lost.

by Da Rams! on Jan 3, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

No

How can Carriker be a bigger bust? Carriker was a mid 1st rounder, playing out of position ( a DE at Nebraska). Dorsey was almost a #1 pick and is playing DT, even if it is in a 3-4 instead of a 4-3.

by kickasskeever on Jan 4, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

One last thing...

I think Spags could get a lot more out of Dorsey than he will get out of Carriker.

by Da Rams! on Jan 3, 2010 8:54 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Not sure where Carriker will fit on this team next year, especially now that all roads point to SUH!

by Mean Machine II on Jan 3, 2010 8:58 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

My first comment

I wish the Lambs would have won. I live in Modesto, CA, and everyone here is a Whiners or Faiders fan. It would have been to stick it to the whiners. Even at the expence of the #1 pick. If we sweep the whiners only, it’s a good season. Let’s hope for a good draft, and turn the ship around. Two wins next year. I love the Rams! Go Dodgers too!

by Skunkburner on Jan 3, 2010 11:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions   0 recs

whats with our o line injuries

over the last few years

Keith Null won't accept my friend requests.

by loyal2therams on Jan 3, 2010 11:24 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm surprised that more Ram fans

aren’t talking about trading down. Usually, the #1 pick is more of an albatross than a godsend. But Suh is clearly at the top of this draft. I would think the Rams could jump out of the top spot for at least a couple extra picks, including a shot to take one of the best QBs at a more appropriate slot. Just wondering what the general consensus is?

by HuangDi on Jan 3, 2010 11:28 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Plus

Suh plays a position we desperately need to upgrade.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 4, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand what you mean, but

in fairness, there is usually more than one future star per draft. May be moot. who knows what the demand might be for the slot, as several posters pointed out below. I was just wondering.

by HuangDi on Jan 5, 2010 1:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

You can only trade down if someone is willing to trade up.

Unless the top player in the draft is a franchise QB or LT, teams won’t normally trade up to the top pick due to the ridiculous amount of money that pick gets. There’s no use talking about something that probably won’t happen.

by andyrose on Jan 3, 2010 11:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

The beauty of it all--

I have no doubt that by the time the Draft rolls around, we, the >1000 fan posters that will be here, will have this all worked out-and will have it laid out for the Front office. TST covers every player from breakfast to bathroom so we all damn sure know what should be done. Good show posters, just wait till next year!! GO RAMS!!!!

by Knoxfan on Jan 3, 2010 11:53 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Amendola

Keep him as Special Teams only, as a KR. As far as receiver goes, he’s an average WR on a bad team…..yeah some say who did he have throwing to him? Doesn’t matter, he was out of position a few times this year and his route running is questionable……..I just dont see the man crush you guys have on him

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by JordansDad on Jan 4, 2010 12:16 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Hooray for the Man crush-

Amen came to the Rams as a KR, not as a WR. I’ll give him a lot of credit for performing as well as he did as a Rookie. Yes-a rookie. This was his first opp. to play. GO AMENDOLA!!!!

by Knoxfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Fire Coughlin

I have an idea. Everyone here should go on to the Giants website/blog page and lobby to have the Giants coach Coughlin fired. Then we pick him up and have him work with Spags.

Thoughts? Ideas

by JL67 on Jan 4, 2010 10:36 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I will always have the utmost respect for Coughlin for knocking off the 18-0 prima donna Pats in the SB.

We couldn’t handle the 11-5 Pats in 2002 with one of the greatest offensive teams that ever existed, and I’m still smarting from that one…

by edpjr on Jan 6, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

#1 Pick

One advantage of the #1 pick is that there should be no holdouts. The Rams will be given the opportunity to negotiate with players prior to the draft. The Lions were given this opportunity last year and it has been done in previous years as well.

As for Suh, if the coaching staff believes he is the second coming of Merlin Olsen, Alan Page, or Reggie White then you have to take him. Players like that do not come along very often. He could be the kind of player that makes everyone around him better.

As for QB’s, I don’t see one worthy of a #1 pick. Look who is drafting behind us. How far down do you drop before a team will take a QB with its #1 pick? I culd see parlaying the second round pick into multiple draft picks, maybe even a future first round pick.

Vick as QB? Please no. He is a run first pass second QB. And he’s not a very good pass QB at that.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it. -- George Santayana (1863-1952)

by cubfred on Jan 4, 2010 1:41 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

#1 draft pick

It would not make a lot of sence to take a QB 1st. The rams have started to build a running team. We have to stay with that philosophy. Last year all the pick ups pointed towards that ( FA center, draft Smith, FA FB, FA blocking TE). Spags is a def coach. We need to use his talents and build the best def possilbe and run the ball. It doesn’t take a the first pick in the draft to hand the ball off. Suh is the best player in the draft. For a team that has this may holes you have to take the best player available in every round

by ram87 on Jan 4, 2010 11:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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