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You Pick'Em Results and Tuesday Evening News, Tebow Style

Before I begin, I'd just like to say that I can tell when people try and cheat the system. At first, it seems remarkable that you can not only guess the picks (you know who you are and just to let you know, you still got the Saints game wrong. They didn't cover the spread) but the correct scores as well, until you realize that the picks were put in on Monday night.

Like I've said before, I know when you submit your picks down to the second. Ain't technology great?

Anyway, moving onto the picks. I'm not going to put them up just yet because the Pro Bowl hasn't happened yet, but I can assure you most of you have at least one correct choice (the Saints-Vikings game was more mixed). A number of you had the score for that game reversed (quite a few actually...too bad!). When the Pro Bowl happens the full results will come up. In the mean time, here is what we have for this round so far: download the excel file here.

As far as news goes, I'm sure everyone (or at least some of us) have been keeping up on the Senior Bowl news. I'd like to highlight the play of someone quite a few people here like. That person is Tim Tebow. I'm not trying to say, "I told you so," (many others have said the same thing as well) but the facts don't lie. He's looked bad. Mocking the draft had this to say about him:

The crux of Tebow's problems are taking snaps from under center and dropping back. At one point, Spencer noted, Tebow fumbled three consecutive snaps in 7-on-7 drills. Tebow can be as nice as he wants, but that is unacceptable for an NFL quarterback.

I'm sure everyone is enthralled with his personality. He's a nice guy and a good leader. But the fact remains is that he is a very raw player. He doesn't have the mechanics or experience under center that an NFL QB must have. This isn't a Mike Vick situation where some people like him and some people don't think he's good enough; this is a situation where a player just isn't ready. For anyone who wants to spend more then a fourth round pick on him, imagine what would happen if he fumbled the ball three consecutive times. People would be clamoring for Kyle Boller. Pandemonium.

Do note, I'm not trying to say he will never be able to play. But with all the talk about value of picks, not drafting for need, etc., it seems silly that people are jumping for a player that simply needs to much work to be a starter right away. The Rams aren't in a position to just sit back and develop a QB and call it good. They need a much more extensive approach of doing things. The Rams may not be close to winning a lot of games, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't try, which is exactly what they would be doing by irresponsibly picking Tebow with a high draft pick. If he falls, go for it. But don't rest your hopes and something that isn't a sure bet. He's a great college player and a nice guy, but after all, the NFL is a business.

Hope you are having a good Tuesday!

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oops. someone forgot that google docs has a time stamp

it wasn’t me though, honest. I stand by my horrible picks.

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 26, 2010 8:04 PM CST reply actions  

It was Tim Donaghy.. I can feel it

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Jan 26, 2010 8:28 PM CST reply actions  

does anyone who has espn insider

post what Mel Kiper posted about the Ram’s draft needs? I know a lot of people don’t like Kiper, but it’d be interesting to get his take on the draft. He did call Stafford getting drafted #1 overall like 3 years ago too so he knows his stuff (occasionally)

by jb22 on Jan 26, 2010 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

Kiper hasn't posted

anything about the Rams needs. He just had his first Mock draft though.

by CaliRamMan on Jan 26, 2010 9:47 PM CST up reply actions  

he did actually
St. Louis Rams
Top needs: QB, WR, DT, TE, OLB, RB
First round (1): DT Ndamukong Suh
Second-round options (33): RB Jahvid Best, WR Arrelious Benn, OLB Sean Weatherspoon, TE Rob Gronkowski
Third-round options (65): QB Colt McCoy, TE Ed Dickson, OLB Perry Riley, OLB Jerry Hughes, WR Damian Williams
Summary: The Rams only have a need for Suh insomuch as anybody could need the clearly most dominating player on the board at this stage. Unless they can get out of the pick, Suh is the safest choice. You have to suspect there’s a chance that a team that desperately needs to figure out their QB situation could fall in love with a guy like Jimmy Clausen, but we don’t know that yet. They could also have Michael Vick in town next year, for all we know. The Rams have needs everywhere. They have a good RB in Steven Jackson, but Best could add a new dimension. They need a WR, they need a TE, they need an OLB. They have other needs, but these are the most glaring, so they should get the best value they can at every pick.

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You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.

by 3k on Jan 27, 2010 5:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I would definitely love to have those options.

1. Suh
2. Weatherspoon
3. McCoy

by kickasskeever on Jan 27, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I could probably live with that draft.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 27, 2010 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't agree they need a WR so badly

Because I think if they have everyone healthy it’s a better crew than people give them credit for.

And if you take WR out of his list, you get this:
QB, DT, TE, OLB
which I think is exactly what I (and others) have been saying.

I’d really like to get a FA QB, or trade for one, and let the DT, TE and OLB be our first three rounds. I’m also not sold on the idea that Oggy is unfit to be SJ39’s backup.

Could they use a highly talented RB to pair Jackson with? Sure. And what happens if Jackson gets hurt?

But — I think Steven Jackson is the kind of player you need to feed the ball to. I wonder how effective he’d be splitting time with maybe just 10-12 carries a game. Seems to me he was better when he got into a rhythm with more carries, but I don’t have stats to prove that one way or the other. I know I wouldn’t spend a top 3 pick on a RB at this point. Maybe when he reaches the ripe old age of 29.

by CoachConnors on Jan 27, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

We Absolutley Need A WR

we need a WR who will make defenses think twice about stacking up on us, right now our WR’s are feared by no one…………….FA or draft, however we do it, just do it………….

Jake Locker in 2011

by JordansDad on Jan 28, 2010 12:15 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah....if weatherspoon was there in the second

the Rams would jump on him immediately, but I say he’s gone late first

by jb22 on Jan 27, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Amen ram_rod

McShay had this to say:
“• South team — Tebow is continuing to struggle under center. His timing and rhythm are off, even for a quarterback working with new receivers. He also seems to be having problems reading the defense, which combined with his elongated release makes him late on some throws. However, he is not hanging his head and is remaining positive and embracing the leadership role.”
“South Team: Bad Days
Florida QB Tim Tebow — We were anxious to see Tebow work under center and he ended up looking very awkward. He fumbled snaps, took false steps in his drops and had trouble setting his feet at the top of his drops. Tebow was out of rhythm as a result and hurried his throws, which in turn affected his accuracy. He simply couldn’t put it all together on Day 1. Tebow is essentially relearning how to do everything and struggled today, though he did remain positive and continued to embrace a leadership role.”

by CaliRamMan on Jan 26, 2010 9:46 PM CST reply actions  

ram_rod, I'd rather have the hard working, nice guy leader...

…than an overrated dbag like Clausen.

Sorry, that’s part of my Trojan-ness coming out. What I’m trying to say is, let it play out. Tebow’s got a lot of time, and I wouldn’t mind him in round 4. Clausen also has time to either rise or fall.

The playing field is even for those two in my book. Clausen underthrows his deep ball, wasn’t a winner per se. Tebow played in the spread and has an elongated release.

They both have their negatives, but on the positive side, Clausen ran a pro-style offense, is extremely accurated in short to medium range throws. Tebow is big, has a strong arm, and won with the best of them at Florida, and possesses off-the charts intangibles.

It’s an even ball game, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the value of Tebow in round 3-4ish outshines the value for Clausen in round 1ish when April rolls around.

I just hope the Rams make the best decisions, as we all do.

"I was just letting the shots fly. You know, I don't leave any bullets in the chamber."

"Everything negative- pressure, challenges- is all an opportunity for me to rise."

-Kobe Bryant

A mantra for all athletes.

by TrojanRam on Jan 26, 2010 10:52 PM CST reply actions  

Agreed

except for the part about not picking Clausen. But hey, Suh is the #1 choice it seems, even if i’d like them to pick Clausen.

The problem I have with Tebow is that his mechanics are bad. Who knows what will happen once he gets around to changing them. Will he be the same player? Snapping the ball isn’t a big deal- that you can learn. But changing how play is a big difference.

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on Jan 27, 2010 2:05 AM CST up reply actions  

FYI

Peyton Manning never won a damn thing in college.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 27, 2010 7:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Why is Clausen a Dbag?

I’m not familiar with that, please enlighten me.

by CoachConnors on Jan 27, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions  

hes a punk, kind of

he talks a lot of s*** with opponents, his whole body language/demanor reminds me of Cutler/Rivers. Not that I mind a little fire, but Spags might, and especially on such a young team, that sort of a presence ina leadership position might not be the best

by jb22 on Jan 27, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions  

wow tebow over

clausen? really? tebow is horrible. maybe he should just be an inspiration leader. he would be good at that. as for clausen next phillip rivers in the making. and im a sc fan.

by rams3!!! on Jan 26, 2010 11:13 PM CST reply actions  

My line in the dirt-

We don’t need to even consider drafting a QB in this draft. We need to DRAFT a WR and a playmaker on the D-line. Our defensive needs are paramount and a boost at WR is what we need.

by Knoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 11:19 PM CST reply actions  

I'm all for Suh.

Dont’ get me wrong. But I’d be interested to go back and see where such luminaries as Jimmy Kennedy, Carriker, Tye Hill, Robert Thomas etc.. ranked on the “big board”. We can blame a terrible front office of the previous regime all we want, but SOME folks thought they were gonna be pretty good…

I hate to heed sage advice from such a bumbling fool as Mike Dunleavy, but “When you’ve got the number one, you listen thoroughly to every offer”.

by mooseknuckles41 on Jan 27, 2010 3:24 AM CST reply actions  

All this talk about Tebow and Clausen...

has everyone forgotten about Sam Bradford. True he messed up his throwing arm and true he recently had surgery and true he will probably miss the combine but until they say he has NOT cleared a physical checkup and until he shows he’s lost his touch at his college’s pro day he still is arguably the most accurate passer coming out for the draft this year. Just remember had he not injured his shoulder and had another great season he would be ranked as the number one overall pick. Having said all that I’m still in favor of drafting Suh I just think Bradford deserves some consideration here.

Go Rams!

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on Jan 27, 2010 10:53 AM CST reply actions  

bradford won’t fall out of the first, so we’d be wise to trade down if we wanted him

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on Jan 27, 2010 3:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

bradford won’t fall out of the first, so we’d be wise to trade down if we wanted him

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on Jan 27, 2010 3:15 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

bradford won’t fall out of the first, so we’d be wise to trade down if we wanted him

The House of Spears reigns supreme

by Eric Nagel on Jan 27, 2010 3:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

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