Senior Bowl-ing
by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 25, 2010 11:23 AM CST
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PrintAttention draft nerds, a title that includes all St. Louis Rams given the current state of the team, this is Senior Bowl week, our first opportunity to get a look at some of the nation's top football prospects in a certifiable evaluation environment. The hype machine is officially in high gear!
(Ok, technically, it's maybe the second draft-y event, after the East-West Shrine Game, but it's the biggest of the first events...according to me).
The first practice for the Senior Bowl is today at 2:30 p.m. Mocking the Draft has a list of players whose draft stock could rise or fall with a good showing this week. Of particular interest are the quarterbacks. Tony Pike and Dan LeFevour are two players that we've talked about here in the past. Neither offer the kind of total package you'd want in a high first round pick. Both spread QBs will relish the opportunity this week to get some looks working under center, something that could boost their draft stock. I've been informed by some Iraqi nationals that there's a tall guy with a shaved head carrying around a clip board that keeps surveying the locals about the possibility of the Rams taking a QB in the second round of the draft, specifically mentioning Pike and LeFevour. If those guys have a good showing this week, the second round could well become an option for them. Of course, there's also Tim Tebow, who'll be playing this week.
Two other QBs worth keeping an eye on are from two of the country's schools featuring OSU as their initials: Oklahoma State QB Zac Robinson and Oregon State QB Sean Canfield, a lefty, will be looking to get their names in the QB conversation this week. Canfield completed 67 percent of his passes this season, throwing 21 TDs and 7 INTs.
The full Senior Bowl rosters are here.
Does anyone know why the Rams coaching staff isn't coaching at the Senior Bowl this year?
Speaking of the draft, AmpLee has a great fan post up with a mock draft positing a trade down from the No. 1 spot, down to the No. 2 spot, based on a very plausible scenario of Ndamukong Suh having a Combine that bolsters his draft stock even higher.
We'll keep a finger on the pulse of the Senior Bowl this week...unless you'd rather talk Pro Bowl. No? I didn't think so.
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Coaching staffs
I’ve googled and wiki’d and I can’t find any info about how the coaching staffs are selected.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
worst record each conference
The worst record in each conference is given the first choice. They can decline and if they do, the option goes to the team with the next worst record.
Rams declined, so Lions were offered and said yes.
I’m not sure why they declined, but teams often say they got to know a player very well while coaching one side or the other.
Maybe the Rams wanted to scout both sides evenly because they have to leave no stone unturned.
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i knew they had declined
but i wondered why. Of course, there are the reports that the Senior Bowl is nothing more than a catchup session for coaches anyway.
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 25, 2010 1:40 PM CST up reply actions
They delined because...
Demoff was interviewed on FM 101 a couple weeks ago and mentioned they declined coaching the senior bowl because it takes a lot of time and doesnt provide a lot of value. There is enough tape available on players to make decisions on them. In fact it can cause you to become overly ‘impressed’ with players that you probably shouldn’t be.
which is why it's mostly a gab fest/vacation for the NFL coaches and scouts that do go there
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by Ryan Van Bibber on Jan 25, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
it's like a Pro Bowl for college players
The game itself is a joke. The only valuable information you get is from the practices which even that isn’t as good of a barometer for tangibles as the combine — more pressure, more analysis, etc.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Jan 26, 2010 3:04 AM CST up reply actions
It's a pretty good way to evaluate QBs and how they act in a pro system.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
not IMO
Only to the degree of a slow-paced, irregularly schemed mockery of a pro system.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
by 3k on Jan 26, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
That's much better than what a lot of college QBs run in their own games.
If a QB takes 80-90% of his snaps from the shotgun and pretty much locks on to his number 1 or 2 receiver (which happens a ton in college), there’s no way to properly evaluate a QB taking a snap from under center, turning their back to the defense, going through read progressions, and making NFL throws.
Is a practice the best way to evaluate this? Hell no. But at least the Senior Bowl is designed and coached by NFL coaches. They run pro systems in the Senior Bowl. So, you at least get a look at how they handle it a little bit which is more than you see of a lot of these guys when they’re playing.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Rams are so bad, it's a sin - na not, not
Point not, point not, it’s in the beat – being beaten down that is.
Look, the rams need more talent ACROSS THE BOARD! A trade down that would yield 2 #1’s or a bunch of #2’s and #3’s is going to be better that say taking the best player in the draft!
I still think that if Rams lose Atogwe, they stay put and draft Eric Berry!!!
Canfield
As a resident of the Pacific Northwest and family living in Corvallis, OR, I have to say I like Canfield. I’m not sure if he is a future NFL star or not, but the kid is tough and has nerves of steel. I’m a big fin.
Also on a side note, The Denver Post has reported that the Rams are a possible suitor for Brandon Marshall.
The Denver Post is just looking for something to write about.
I doubt there has been any contact between the teams, and there is definitely divided opinion here over whether Marshall would be a good acquisition or a real lockerroom headache.
I wish I had finished my mock before the Senior Bowl so I could spend some time on it
even though it’s BS. Alas, I’m about 75% done with round 1. I’ll post and start working on round 2, then redo both before going into the day 3 picks. Random update, though you shouldn’t care about my mock any more than some random foolio’s.
You don't seem to want to accept the fact you're dealing with an expert in guerrilla warfare, with a man who's the best, with guns, with knives, with his bare hands. A man who's been trained to ignore pain, ignore weather, to live off the land, to eat things that would make a billy goat puke. In *St. Louis* his job was to dispose of enemy personnel. To kill! Period! Win by attrition. Well, *Steven Jackson* was the best.
i like Canfield
we’ll see how he does
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