SUH-per Bounty Mock Draft 1
by AmpLee on Jan 24, 2010 11:48 PM CST
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Well, here we are with a nose hair victory going to the Detroit Lions with 19 of the possible 74 votes. Thank you to all who voted and commented. Thank you to those of you who just read and moved on with their day, as well.
Blogger RamsFan1979 was very adamant in the comment section that these trade scenarios are pipe dreams. He makes very valid points that these trades don't happen anymore, i.e. Hershel Walker, Mike Ditka, etc. You know what? He is 99% correct, which is, basically, perfect. BUT...... the Hershel Walker and Mike DItka trades DID happen. And I can't help but think it could happen again this year because of the SUH-per Beast.
I know I'm asking for a lot. Make no bones about it, I want N. Suh. But every man has his price. If N. Suh goes absolutely apeshit at the combine, SOMEBODY in upper management just might develop enough of an unhealthy obsession to do something a little crazy. RF1979, you're right. It's not gonna happen. But....... it's not impossible.
So without further ado, here's our fantastic trade with Dee-troit and the subsequent mock draft*:
*Note: These picks are based on the average positioning of multiple respected mock drafts.
#2 (1) - - - - -Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma Yep. The best consolation prize in the last 25 years.
#33 (2) - - - - Mike Iupati, G, Idaho This pick sucks for people who hate 2000 yds a season rushers.
#34 (2) - - - - Colt McCoy, QB, Texas Some folks might think this is a reach. I just think the kid's a freakin' winner.
#65 (3) - - - - Corey Wooten, DE, Northwestern A solid DE always falls to the top of the 3rd. Corey's no exception.
#66 (3) - - - - Navorro Bownam, OLB, Penn State MIght not be a moral pillar. Will be a defensive pillar, though.
#96 (4) - - - - Dexter McCluster, RB/WR/KR, Ole MIss Do your thang, Lil Dex! (Sproles 2.0)
#128 (5) - - - Naaman Roosevelt, WR, Buffalo Don't sleep on this kid. He'll f--- you up!
#151 (5) - - - Ryan Perrilloux, QB, Jacksonville State Worth the gamble here. His skills are nuts, but, he's nuts.
#160 (6) - - - Chris Marinelli, OT, Stanford Shoulder issues have been prevalent, but, when healthy, a possible steal.
#165 (6) - - - Sam Young, OT, Notre Dame Somehow he went from penthouse to outhouse in 3 years. Still....
#192 (7) - - -Scott Sicko, TE, New Hampshire MIght go higher. MIght not. Everyone needs a Sicko on their team.
#210 (7) - - Auston English, DE. Oklahoma Remember when this guy was The Bomb. Injuries are a bitch.
So there we are. Yeesh. This draft would be Nuckin' Futs! But, hey, stranger things (1999 Rams) have happened. Stay tuned for the Mock Draft Scenario #2 with Tampa Bay (Home of the Disenfranchised Stripper)!
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It would be nice, but...
This is highly unlikely. Detroit has a lot of holes to fill and giving up this much would be hard for them.
However, if this was to happen I would do things a bit differently.
I would even consider taking OT Russel Okung, but McCoy would be hard to pass on. That 2nd round we would be grabbing Everson Griffen and Jahvid Best. I like Iupati, but there is no way I would want the Rams pass on these guys.
I the 3rd round I seriously doubt Bowman will be there (although that would be cool), if he isn’t though, his partner from Penn State- Sean Lee would be an excellent replacement. He reminds me a lot of Laurinaitis, except better in coverage.
The next 3rd rounder I would take either QB Jevan Sneed or DT Arthur Jones (really depending on that 1st pick).
In that 5th round I think I would go after Pouncey from Florida. A nice stout interior lineman that absorbs pressure well.
Other than that I love the McCluster pick. I also like the Sam Young pick (it would be nice to have someone with 4 years of game experience). Austin English would be a nice value pick in the 7th round.
Don’t know much about Sicko or Roosevelt, so can’t comment there, but Perrilloux would be a mistake.
Great stuff
Snead scares the hell out of me, but, then again, I have Perrilloux in the 5th so maybe I need to get my head checked. Sicko is a TE with a very high upside but he plays for a small college so scouts are mixed. Roosevelt is one of those guys that keeps improving every year and still has the tools to keep getting better. Once again, small school, but there are tons of GMs keeping their jobs out there from good scouting in these small schools. Griffen and Best are killer picks and I did an unfair job to the readers by not mentioning that I think the Rams could go get Leon Washington in FA. That’s why I backed off Best.
Detroit fan here. NO WAY WE GIVE UP ANY PICKS FOR SUH!
Sorry for the Caps.
We will be very happy with McCoy or Berry. Frankly, I could see us trading down and picking up who ever falls down the board. We are desperate for a lot of talent. After all, we did lose to you guys in 2009.
You would draft QBs two years in a row?
The Lions would (continue to) be the laughing stock of the NFL if they followed up a 1st overall selection of a QB with a 2nd overall selection of a QB.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I was going to make a comment that you were hopelessly ignorant TB, then I read your George Carlin quote.
That is one of my favourite all time quotations/observations of humanity.
We will leave COLT McCoy for you to select at #33. Good luck with that.
If you just count games in the NFL, Detroit vs St. Louis, I would happily take that bet.
I think I would have already won the bet as Stafford has two and Colt McCoy is unlikely to win any.
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 26, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yea you're right
Colt McCoy will probably never win a single game in his career if we draft him. Because Stafford has a whopping 2 wins and McCoy has 0 as of now means nothing, considering he hasn’t played in any games.
Who said I want McCoy?
And how am I ignorant? You just said the Lions aren’t interested in Suh and you’d be happy if they took either McCoy or Berry. So……..and I guess I’m assuming here……..you would be happy if the Lions took (with their 2nd overall pick or whichever 1st round pick you end up trading down to get) Colt McCoy one year after taking Matthew Stafford with the first overall selection?
Please enlighten me as to where I’ve gone awry.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Anyone who thinks Colt McCoy will be the first QB selected in 2010 or doesn't know who Gerald McCoy is ...is ignorant.
by NorthLeft12 on Jan 26, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
No one said that.
Colt McCoy was slotted #33 (2). Pretty sure more QBs will be off by then. Also, I think Tackle Box has a tiny clue who Gerald McCoy is. i think he got his McCoy’s mixed.
Actually TB responded because NL said Colt McCoy at #33
TB was right…. Not that I’m in the habit of defending him.
TB thought that the Lions would take Colt McCoy at # 2.
The guy appears to be clueless.
I did not say we were not interested in Suh. I said we would not give up any draft picks to move up to get him. If you pass on him, which I think you should, to take a QB we will most likely snap him up or trade him down to Tampa Bay if they are willing to give up an extra pick or two for him [doubtful].
I think it is only the fans that think that Suh is worth moving up to draft. No GM with a brain will move up to the top two picks for a DT. IMO.
I guess time will tell on that prediction.
No one really knows what will happen now, with the draft still three months away.
Touche
Still fun to guess, though. I find it kind of funny how bad Lions fans are trying to talk the Rams fans out of Suh at #1. I don’t blame them. It just reminds me of being a kid trading baseball cards. “Oh no, you don’t want Ken Griffey Jr.‘s Upper Deck Rookie Card! The Greg Jeffries’s card is worth $20 right now according to the Beckett guide!”
As I've said before, if we decide to take a QB
We will probably trade to either you guys or TB. There is no use in taking a QB number 1 when there are teams willing to trade for the pick. Even if we do not get really high value, if we are already committed to a QB we could trade down to TB and get him. The only way we don’t get the QB we want that way is if both DET and TB turn around and trade their picks for teams seeking QBs. But if that happens then we still get Suh. So we are guaranteed one of the top 2 QBs or Suh.
Yeah, I mixed up my McCoy's
I hope you feel like a champion today.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
nice draft
I don’t think Det. will give there top 3 choices for Suh. But, you never know. Tampa is the more likely chance for that many top choices. I still think Wash. goes Clausen at 5 and parts ways with Campbell.
If Rams can get MCoy and add a Bownam or Lupati for the #1 choice that would work too.
Perrilloux would be a hugh mistake.
The very top?
You might be right about Dexter but a lot of teams might back off because of his size.
yeah his size might be a problem
but he is a dynamic play maker. a lot of teams were worried about if Percy Harvin could take the hits in the NFL, and he’s exceeded expectations, even though I cringe everytime they hand off the ball to Harvin on an end around and he gets CRUSHED. Obviously not saying McCluster is as good as Harvin, but I definitely see him getting taken in the 3rd
I know about Ricky Williams
and Mike Ditka. The Herchel Walker trade reaped a bounty of picks for the Dallas Cowboys, as well.
I see apples to oranges...
on another note, I see your fantasy football trade drafts went pretty well. We would have a monster of a team; being young wouldn’t bother me as your picks are dripping with talent.
Thanks, RF1979!
Somehow one has to stay engaged in being a good fan when we have gone 6-42 over the past 3 years.
I'm not as high on Colt McCoy as you are Amp
I think he can be develop into a decent player in the league, but there are safer and better options that high in the draft. There are a lot of safe defensive players there and maybe a player like Jermaine Gresham or Brandon Lafell or even Rob Gronkowski could be worth while picks there. Also some quality O-linemen could be available there. I think all those options would be better that high in the draft. Next year has a lot of quality QBs and no matter where we are drafting in the first round we should be able to get one of them. Maybe McCoy if he’s there in the third, but I think we should just wait for LeFevour in the 4th if we are going to take a Qb at all this year.
If we didn't take McCoy at #33
I would want Everson Griffen or Jahvid Best. If those two were gone, I would want Mike Iupati of Idaho. He’s like an American Islander Steve Hutchinson.
MIke Iupati is impressing McShay at least
Via Espn Alerts through my phone:
Todd McShay believes Idaho G Mike Iupati will be NFL starter in 2010 and perennial Pro Bowler.
I don’t know about everyone else, but immediate starter and perennial pro bowler sounds pretty good to me. Even when you consider who’s saying it, I want him. I just hope this doesn’t get him noticed and push him into the first round.
If we can get him in the second, there is no way we should pass on him.
He will go in the first round. He was already projected late first, but with his workout that will push him into the top 15, at least.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by Troy Hufford on Jan 27, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions
With all due respect, I need more than McShay
McShay isn’t qualified to say any college player will be a perennial pro bowler in the NFL. That he would even try to do that only says to me that McShay wants to bring attention to himself. People forget how many huge misses he’s had year in and year out. It’s like they have amnesia or something. Every year he gets a clean slate and he takes advantage of that to make bold statements and propagate hype.
Someone remond me how many Pro Bowlers McShay has developed in the NFL? Really, those are the only guys that can tell me someone is a lock to make it to that level.
That said, I don’t know Iupati well enough to say they should grab him in the second. I’m just saying McShay doesn’t know either.
by CoachConnors on Jan 27, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Honestly
I saw him play twice this year (I love AT&T Uverse) and he was a man amongst boys. Then again the competition wasn’t that great. All in all he is a good looking interior lineman. I don’t know about considering him a perrenial bro-bowler quite yet, considering he will not dominate guys like Kris Jenkins, Albert Hanesworth, etc. That is what McShay and Kiper get paid for…create hype and interest in the NFL prospects that generates tags on their site to find out what prospects look like they can help your team.
Top15 is probably streching it a bit. I actually see him going in the early part of the second round, due to the large amount of high quality talent in this years draft.
He is doing great in the Senior Bowl practices.
If he keeps that up and does well in the game, I think he goes in the latter half of the first round. I would love to see the Rams get him, but it doesn’t seem likely.
I have since been edumucated on Iupati
yeah, dude rocks. I wish he would’ve played against better competition but I am somewhat familiar with Idaho and I think they’re doing things right up there.
I place G somewhere after QB, DT, OLB and TE on the Rams needs but then again there are no OLB or TE worth that high of a pick this year. So I guess his only real competition to be a Ram are probably Suh, McCoy, Bradford or Clausen. Maybe Berry or a trade on the outside.
by CoachConnors on Jan 29, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions
I think most of this mock draft is pretty good.
However, I would like to see you look at TE Ed Dixon in round 5. He might be gone before then, but he seems to be the real deal.
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