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Five things for the Rams to think about in a cappless 2010

The PD has a short article today about the impact of a no-salary-cap year on the St. Louis Rams. It's not much that hasn't already been covered. With no cap, that means the available talent pool in free agency is extremely limited, consisting mostly of older players. In the article, GM Billy Devaney and VP of Football Operations Kevin Demoff note that the Rams have plans for both a capped and a no-cap year, but they don't elaborate on those plans. I thought it might make for a nice Saturday read if we speculated on the specifics of what a no-cap season means for the Rams.

The Quarterback Chase

The Rams really need an answer at QB for 2010, and they can either find a new starter via the draft or a guy who is already on an NFL roster. Readers know that I'm firmly in the Jason Campbell camp. However, Campbell's one of those guys that will be a RFA with a no-cap year. Word is Washington's new head coach would like to hang on to Campbell too, for at least a season. The few names to watch for that will be free agents in an uncapped year include Chad Pennington, Chris Redman, and...and... The trade route offers a little more with some intriguing younger names like Brodie Croyle or Kellen Clemens, and of course Michael Vick. Some players will be available via roster cuts, but that's not the best route for finding a starting QB. The best course to find the most talented quarterback this offseason might well be the first round of the draft. That would save the team having to give up precious draft picks for a stopgap, a move they can't afford, but that leaves the team with Keith Null and their draft pick as the two main guys. The idea of bringing Bulger back as a backup/mentor would be a consideration if they drafted a QB. In an uncapped year, a reduced contract for Bulger isn't as pressing of a need.

The Draft

Not that the draft wasn't already important, but in no-cap year the stakes get even higher. To me, it means that the Rams need to hit on as many picks as possible and still get as many players as possible who can contribute right away. That should please the Suh fans, since the Husker DT seems likely to make a big impact even as a rookie. For a team still pretty bereft of talent, it stands to reason that a player like Suh would instantly make them a more competitive team. 

They also need to acquire as many more picks as possible. The same logic that makes Suh so attractive at first overall might well make the first overall pick attractive for trading partners. Devaney will have to weigh the offers very carefully. And let's not confine that to the first round. Additional picks in the second and third rounds would be great to have as well. 

Trades

I've said before that player trades, never a regular feature in the NFL, will be really big this year. The Rams don't have many players to trade, given how little depth they have. They'd get offers on Steven Jackson, which they won't entertain. Another player that might get some interest is FS Oshiomogho Atogwe who will be a RFA, again, thanks to the uncapped year. I'd hate to see Atogwe go given the needs the Rams have in the secondary, but you have to listen to offers. If the Rams can upgrade at CB and get some pass rushers up front, then they have decent depth at safety with James Butler and Craig Dahl. It's not ideal, but if they could address some key needs with players or draft picks obtained by trading Atogwe, then it might be worth the hit they'd take at the safety position. 

Getting Old

Last year, the Rams made the roster cuts and free agent signings to get younger as a team, targeting players with clean(ish) injury histories and on the way up in terms of their development. With the free agent market shaping up the way it is, that strategy might be out the window this year. And that's fine. Signing a guy who isn't a five-year solution at certain positions of need (like CB, OT, or OLB) isn't going to cut them off at the knees and thwart the rebuilding process. They can always come back to those positions in future drafts or more robust free agency periods for a long-term solution. 

Learn to Love 

Finally, the Rams and their fans may have to settle for some old familiar faces at a few positions. That means bringing back some players who would be gone under normal circumstances. The best example of this that I can think of is Alex Barron. Yes, I've lead the change to have this guy cut, but it wouldn't be smart to create a need where you don't have one. (we covered the arguments for and against bringing back Barron in this post). Marc Bulger, who we discussed above, is another guy this applies to. That doesn't mean they automatically inherit their old starting roles, but they could be useful as depth. 

Even if there is some kind of agreement reached on the cap for this season, a new CBA is likely to reshape the landscape. It's a brave new world that's coming to the NFL. 

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Rams fire long time athletic trainer Jim Anderson

by Habte E on Jan 23, 2010 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

ha ha just made a fanpost on it

"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi

by VTramsFan on Jan 23, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

it looks like they’re finally gonna try to do something about all these injuries

by Habte E on Jan 23, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Finally?

When did you expect them to do it? They did after it was a problem for one year.

by Carneros on Jan 24, 2010 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

They've had the same number of IRs the past 3 years.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 25, 2010 7:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Question for you guys.

I’ve been a big fan of Atogwe for a while and would love to see him on my Dolphins as we have a big need for a good free safety. If the Rams were to listen to offers for him, what do you think they would want in return for him? Would they want to just get some draft picks from a RFA tender, or would they want to get some players for him?

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

I can't brain today, I have the dumb.

28 "Phinsider Feud" Points

by Chupathingy on Jan 23, 2010 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

I'd take the draft pick(s)

since he would net a 1st and 3rd. But, chances are, no one would give that up to sign him so I’d settle for a trade and would probably accept a 2nd rounder (and depending on the interest, a 5th or 6th rounder).

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 24, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok, so let me ask this then.

Who do you think that the Rams would want to get for him? There are a few guys that we will probably be willing to trade, like Joey Porter (OLB), Will Allen (CB), Akin Ayodele (ILB), and Gibril Wilson (S). These are the guys that I can think of that the Dolphins would probably be most willing to trade in my opinion, but they might be willing to consider some other guys as well. There’s also been some rumors floating around that they might even be willing to listen to offers for Ronnie Brown.

Who do you think that the Rams might be interested in? Assuming Miami shows interest in Atogwe of course.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

I can't brain today, I have the dumb.

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by Chupathingy on Jan 24, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, first I said I'd take picks over players

but, nevertheless, of those players you list, I don’t really want any of them.

None of them improve the team when you figure you’re getting rid of Atogwe. Sure, you might fix a LB position but you then open up a FS position. I don’t see the point.

Plus, of those players listed, they’re all over 30 and, other than maybe Porter, none of them played particularly well. So, I’m wondering, why would we want to trade Atogwe for any of these guys?

And I’m not even sure I’d do it for Ronnie Brown. A Lisfranc injury can be career ending (or career altering). Once again, I don’t see much really I’d want to trade for Atogwe.

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.

by Tackle Box on Jan 24, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok, thanks for the reply.

Those are just some guys that we’ve been figuring they would try and trade or get rid of. I was wanting to see what you guys’ opinions were on the idea.

Thanks again for the info!

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

I can't brain today, I have the dumb.

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by Chupathingy on Jan 24, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry for all the questions too,

but I’m working on a post on the Phinsider on possibilities for players we could pick up for our areas of need. I’m trying to get an idea of how real a possibility it might be to pick up some of these players.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

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by Chupathingy on Jan 24, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Who saw Mike Kafka

in the shrine game today. He could be some we get in the 7th and sit behind pennington or campbell or whoever and develop.

Freddie Barnes is another WR that could be there in the 3rd round.
The guy had 155 catches this season!!!

by Habte E on Jan 23, 2010 6:28 PM CST reply actions  

Yep

All my mock selections have this guy from B.G.!!!!!!!!!!

3-5th round depending when run on receivers start!!!

We need a slot receiver!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by jlcdb70 on Jan 23, 2010 11:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Kafka looked really confident!!!!

He looks like he has more potential than being given credit for.

by jlcdb70 on Jan 25, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not a big Otogwe fan.

I don’t think he liked his one-year contract or compensation. And, I think he played accordingly. Trade him, dump Barron and Bulger. We need guys who will live and breathe to see the Rams win again.

by edpjr on Jan 23, 2010 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

2010 RAMS

Slice it, Dice it or blend it, the RAMS are going to SUCK in 2010! I predict a 3 win season.
The Q.B. position SUCKS no matter which Q.B. on the roster starts, he will be on the I.R. before the 4th game. The RAMS need a better O.L. to protect any unfortunate man who assumes that position, it’s a death sentence. The PLAY CALLING on the OFFENSE was offensive! it sucked too! VICK, PENNINGTON, CAMPBELL, REDMOND they aren’t the answer but would add to an already bad team. The defense wasn’t that bad considering they spent way more time on the field then the offense, anyway would be tired spending 77% of the game on the field.
Come up with a new cure for an old disease (LOSING) Lets bring winning back to STL and football.

by California Mobile CPR on Jan 23, 2010 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

Now hang on a minute...

In 2009 the Rams had 1st draft pick Jason Smith at RT, FA pickup Jason Brown at Center, plus Jacob Bell, Richie Incognito, and, sigh, Alex Barron on the O-Line. They also had Adam Goldberg as a b/u and Mike Karney as a blocking FB. While the O-Line was not playoff quality, the main problem on offense was three QB’s that were immobile as statues and none of which could hit the broad side of a barn with any consistency. Furthermore, SJax had no quality b/u and McMichael was a mockery at TE. That’s why we only scored 10.9 points per game. And on Defense, our D-LIne was missing in action all season long. They were blown off the line on virtually every play. And we only had one capable LB behind them. That’s a big part of why we gave up 450 points. Getting Suh, an OLB, a TE and even a mediocre QB might make a big difference in this crew.

by edpjr on Jan 24, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions  

get used to it....

the rams have reverted back to what they always were….the lambs

by same_old_ rams on Jan 24, 2010 1:53 AM CST reply actions  

Wow

Im hating this negativity. Remember before before the rams had a ridiculous amount of injuries we were dangerous. No team could play us and walk out with an easy win(Excluding Indy and San fran) See Jacksonville, New Orleans, Washington, Arizona, seattle, chicago, Even minnesota. After that it gets ugly. We are only a couple players away from being average. One more year and were playoff bound. Mark my words

by Stlramsfan14 on Jan 24, 2010 9:10 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with fan14, i think that with the right picks and a new OC, this team of young hungry guys will get there in 2011 with a possible super bowl e-appearance by 2013.The only thing i think i feel differant about then the rest of Ram fans is that i would not take a QB this time around, i would instead cocentrate on the D and a stud at TE and some late round recievers.It can’t be that much worse then what we are used to to have Null behind center for a complete year and maybe with a healthy O line and a very competitive defense he will mature and blossom into the future of the franchise.Hey if he doesnt work out then at least we have less needs to fill in 2011 because we filled them this year.We all know it can not really get any worse then it did in 2009!!!!!

If practice makes perfect....
Yet nobodies perfect.....
Then why practice ???

by peteyweestro on Jan 24, 2010 1:15 PM CST reply actions  

Almost every pass directly to the sideline or to a receiver crossing two yards downfield.

How many times can we run the same stupid one WR screen to the outside when it loses ground almost every time? The simple, basic pass patterns all teams run from high school on seem to be beyond this OC. His play calling was pathetic. That’s why!

by andyrose on Jan 24, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Sooooooooooo------

You would have thrown deep and incorporated complex patterns? er……..wait—
Are you really-really sure you would have tried that? Would you have had our OL flatten D-lines so SJax wouldn’t have to accept 2 yard patterns?

by Knoxfan on Jan 24, 2010 11:30 PM CST reply actions  

Who said anything about complex patterns?

I was talking about patterns high school teams run, if you will reread my post. How about simple slants, hooks, down and ins? We didn’t run any of them.

As to running the ball, it’s pretty hard for five or six offensive linemen to block all nine defenders lined up in the box on every play.

by andyrose on Jan 25, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

We ran em' all

The reason you might have missed seeing themis because the receiver didn’t show up. Bulger has the skill to check down when there’s no one to throw to. The play’s weren’t designed that way-no one was ever open. Is that Shummers fault? No. Is it the receivers fault? No. They were scrubs doing the best they could. Was it the QB’s fault? No. Bulger did an excellent job not turning the ball over throwing to guys who weren’t there. I will hold my condemnation on the OC till I see what he does with talent to throw to. If he then bombs, I will join you. SJAX-again-It is not our OC that caused DC’s to stack the box against him. DC’s knew we couldn’t throw, so it was a good move on their part to do so.

by Knoxfan on Jan 25, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

You may be right, but

it’s hard to believe we were running all these patterns when we routinely had two or three wide receivers near the sidelines. One of the plays they ran three or four times a game had two wide receivers lined up with one behind the other. The QB would throw to the back one and the front one was supposed to block. I don’t remember ever seeing that play work, and it often lost yards, yet we ran it over and over. One definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.

by andyrose on Jan 25, 2010 11:05 PM CST reply actions  

Unless you're Bum Phillips

He used to say where he was going to run Combell, and it was up to the Defense to stop him.
P.S. By running the same play over and over, we did sometimes get a different result==we got intercepted.

by Knoxfan on Jan 26, 2010 12:25 AM CST reply actions  

Does anyone know what happens when the cap comes back?

Say a team spends up the wazoo because there’s no cap.
Then an agreement is reached and a cap is installed, lets say for the following year.

Does the big spending team have to cut salaries down the match the cap by the year the cap is in place? If that’s the case, it could get very ugly for a team that goes nuts for one year.

If they only accomplish one single thing for the labor agreement, I hope it’s a rookie scale that’s somewhere near the neighborhood of sanity. I’ve heard the union prez say they don’t want that (of course) but the owners definitely see that as a huge problem. As do I. I think the best way to reign in out of control salaries is to pay on performance instead of potential but I understand the union isn’t there to secure lower salaries for its members.

by CoachConnors on Feb 1, 2010 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

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