Time For a Spread They Can't Cover
by dbcouver on Jan 10, 2010 8:28 PM CST
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I just had a great time watching the Cardinals beat the Packers, and fondly remembering our past glory, I've decided I don't endorse the running game like we use. I don't know why it took me this long to realize this, but it was more fun watching the GSOT than any other football I've ever watched. I know winning made it enjoyable but if I was a Packers fan tonite, I would have felt good about the level of play of the offense. The running game has it's qualities, clock control etc., but I'm ready for some entertaining football again. I want us to be feared and revered like we once were.
Steven Jackson notwithstanding, we have really nothing to lose by starting right now in my opinion. We don't have an offensive player whom cannot be utilized in the spread, at least one worth keeping. You want a QB who can manage the game? Well there are 3-6 good ones coming out every year, lately that come from spreads, and that number will only increase with its future success in the college ranks. The spread is coming and the only question remains: When are we gonna get on the bus?
I think it's good that we have Spagnuolo as a coach. I think his defensive mind is worth keeping. I can't feel good though about the direction our offense is headed and it's not just our injury situation. It's our style. We don't have any. And when the injuries reduce to normal levels, and they will, we still won't have any. Other than the Ravens, or 85 Bears, I can't think of a Superbowl championship team that won without an enjoyable offensive show. I'm sure there were but my point is made, What do you guys think?
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If we keep Bulger, get Dez Bryant or Boldin (a #1 WR) and Jermaine Gresham we could have the GSOT again. With SJax at RB, WR’s #1 Bryant #2 Robinson #3 Avery #4 Gibson and #5 Avery and Gresham at TE. Who could stop that? And if we get Suh and Osi with Long and Carriker/Ryan/Gibson in front of J.L, Butler, n O.J. All that = SB contender.
I know its a dream, but damn is it a good one.
Well...
take Suh with the #1 pick. Jermaine Gresham in the 2nd round (if he falls a little). Trade for Osi, prob just a 3rd maybe a little extra. The Boldin/Bryant would be the dream part, would prob take our 1st next year and a couple later round picks to get Boldin, and prob about the same to move back up into the back half of the 1st RD. to get Bryant.
So you mean to tell me
we are going to trade 2 first rounders next year??? One for Boldin (to a division rival-bad choice) and one to another team to move back into the top 10 picks and get Dez Bryant…
Well seeing how we only have 1 first round pick this year and 1 next year, this is mathematically impossible.
Reality my friend!
I never said...
to get both of them, going back to the first post i said Boldin OR Bryant… I should’ve clarified a little better.
-1 Marshall made the Greatest Show go
During the 99 season he averaged 5.5 yards per carry. In 2000 he slipped a bit, guess he got lazy, but he only put up 5.4 ypc. In 2001 age must have caught up falling even further to a paltry 5.3. My point? You can’t throw the ball 20 yards down field once every 4 downs if you don’t think your running game can get you the first in 2 plays. Also the GSOT used a similar running game to what the team now employs in that it was often done out of a double tight or full back I formations. Off tackles with a lead blocker. Watch the tapes you’ll see a lot of that. My point being that without a phenomenal running game opposing defenses can cover the pass too well for the show to go on.
Until we lost some OL to injuries
wasn’t our running game improving? It is a huge part of the spread option anyway. I guess I’m not sure if you think I’m not behind it.
Look at Wasington
during the spurrier yrs there…that spread option ‘fun-n-gun’ offense doesnt cut it at the NFL lvl. Defenses are just to talented and fast. You want to be feared? Then be able to run 150yrds every game and all of a sudden the play-action opens up and our wide outs are killing opposing secondaries. When you run you are feared due to being able to move the chains in any environment and weather situation…Solid D and solid ground games win championships..ariel assaults are a by-product of a methodical effective ground pound
Houston tried to run a spread
back in the 90s. They called it the Run ‘n Shoot. Didn’t work so well.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Absolutely nothing substitutes for imposing your will at the line of scrimmage
As an added treat, most O-linemen like to run block better because they can “bring it” to the opponent. If a team can reliably run for 3rd and 1, weakness in the passing game won’t be a big deal. (Ex: NY Jets putting the ball in Thomas Jones and Shon Greene’s hands to protect Mark Sanchez.)
by CoachConnors on Jan 14, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
The spread
includes more of a running game than the WCO, the way it’s being done now. The read option play is a huge part of the spread and takes advantage of run blocking, scheme blocking and a strong running backfield, including either a wildcat formation or a good running QB.
No that anyone needed this information but it’s why I think the spread differs from the run and shoot, or any overly pass-oriented offense. I want a passing game, but I know it takes the right fundamental strengths to produce a passing game. I guess my point is, I want playmakers now on offense. I want a huge playmaking TE, at least 1 good sized fast WR and QB whom is maybe not an orthodox pocket passer. Added to Jackson, this would provide more running options, reverses, flea-flickers, etc. This is what I was getting at.
I'm totally with you half way
I want a huge playmaking TE too, and I think that is the immediate need after the QB.
I’d prefer a traditional QB and I think maybe we are underestimating the talent in the WR’s, but other than that, yeah Im with you.
by CoachConnors on Jan 14, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions
If you're talking about the talent in our current WRs
I agree they could be all we need. I’m certainly willing to give our current crop another year or 2 to show what they have. I think we were extremely fortunate to pick up who we have the way we did this last year.
Just as
a solid passing game opens up the run, delays and screens. One compliments the other. We have the RB and I think marginal WRs, Still need a #1. Don’t know where we get the QB to run it all.
by johnniewarthawg on Jan 12, 2010 6:47 AM CST reply actions
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