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St. Louis Rams vs. Kansas City Chiefs, 9/3/09, preseason week 4: Open Thread

Kansas City Chiefs at St. Louis Rams, Sep 3, 2009 7:00 PM CDT


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Last game of the preseason...none too soon. We're all ready for some football that counts.

St. Louis Rams vs Kansas City Chiefs
7:00 p.m. Central, Edward Jones Dome, St. Louis, MO
TV: Fox

Out: Leonard Little, Marc Bulger, Mike Karney and Larry Grant
Questionable: Richie Incognito
Returning: Jacob Bell, Donnie Avery

Here's 3k's preview and a fight card for tonight's game.

We'll have reactions after the game, and more on the fallout tomorrow. Keep up with us on Saturday too, we'll have updates and comment on the roster trimming (deadline is 3 p.m. Central on Sat.) as well as college football open thread.

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Are you ready for some Football baby!

Go Rams… let’s put an exclamation point on the pre-season and show some heart tonight!

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 6:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh yeah!

Fights for jobs on the field today…Berlin or Null guys?

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 6:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

2 votes

"F@*& Lidge and the horse he rode in on!"

-Cards Fan in Chitown, via text message shortly after the VEB Get Together Day.

by Tackle Box on Sep 3, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its up for grabs...

…one of them has to show somethig tonight…

Great start by the D! J-Wade!!!

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Crap...

…I couldn’t tell who gave up the sack…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:13 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Making it tough for QB's to do anything

and it must be frustrating fighting for a job, and running for your life

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our D looks ok...

…didn’t like Larry Johnson breaking through a few times. Also, Bowe got past us…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:20 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Watching it online..

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Trick play

To gado

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 7:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

That was a nice gain

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Nicely executed play

Toss to gado

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 7:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Run boller Run!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Gado putting exclamation point

for all the naysayers that he deserves #2

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

To me there’s no doubt he’s number 2

by MathB on Sep 3, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

There is no way he isn’t making the team

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:23 PM CDT reply actions  

At this point I’d agree with you. Nice catch by Fells.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Effective drive

With some second team skill positions

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 7:24 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

that didn’t work very well…

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:25 PM CDT reply actions  

It looks like Bulger will need to develop a quicker release. So much pressure, so little pass protection

by MathB on Sep 3, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice position

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

You know it's going bad on offense

when your punter has the play of the game thus far

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 7:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Vrabel brought the pain.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

not when they miss the tackles. hold on to the guy!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:29 PM CDT reply actions  

McMichael has to block better...

…as do our runningbacks. Gado at least tossed himself at him, but he’s got to do better than that. I think both sacks have been on our RBs…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You’d think they’d focus on that in drills or something, or are they just unteachable

…..That play shouldn’t have happened….

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Roach is going to make the team…

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Theirs the run d we all know and love!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

wow

disgusting
roach chamberlain

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Roach is definately not making the team.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know right

then why the hell is he playing in the first quarter, i dont get it

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two penalties back to back? Why’d are they using our playbook…

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

...

That run D is suspect, but it is David Roach trying to tackle Larry Johnson…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:33 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

A Bradley Fletcher sighting!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Second teamers looked rough on the first part of that Chiefs drive

but got it together after the penalties

nice play by Fletcher on the first play after the penalties.

held them to a FG!

much improved by the second teamers on that drive

Turf Show Times

by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 7:35 PM CDT reply actions  

At least...

…they held…

Nice little tug by Wade. :D

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

thank god

I thought it was the firsts, cant make out numbers in channelsurfing

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

A little bit of both, but they definitely had two chances to punch it in with Bowe.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good stop, 3 is better then 7 i guess.

Good play by Fletch!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Sum it up for me

I’ve been watching North Texas v. Ball St.; I’ll catch the Rams game tomorrow.
Who’s looking good? Who’s not? Fill me in.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Gado is going to be the backup to Jackson…I’d say it’s pretty certain.

Fletcher had a nice play against Bowe to prevent a touchdown.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

first Q

first team: vanilla playbook, so-so
first team D: did alright

second team let the Chiefs starters get a big play, then KC f’d themselves with penalties and the second team held them inside the 20

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chiefs still cant score

No first team TDs in preseason for chiefs. Do they have a OC yet?

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Who’s injured?

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rams

offensive stats pathetic

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Not looking good for Berlin...

…Null can come in and take this…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Tim Carter

just played his way out of a job with the Rams

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes he did

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Carter drops it again….

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Tim Carter...

…shouldve played safety with those hands…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 7:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Pressure

ever heard of it?

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:49 PM CDT reply actions  

That was a HIT

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:50 PM CDT reply actions  

was the CJ Ah You?

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

i think

at first I thought it was carriker, then I remembered carriker would never get to the QB

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:52 PM CDT reply actions  

I forgot

how stripped down the 4th preseason games are, all the talent is out 6 minutes into the first quarter

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 7:56 PM CDT reply actions  

FLETCHER!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

it is

they still have their starters and ours were gone by 1/2 way through the first, its actually kinfd of sad for the chiefs

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Well, our pass rush has looked good...

…can’t say the same for the run stopping. Was that Carriker that missed the tackle on the long run? I hope this doesn’t cause Spags to cut him…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 8:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I think Fletcher has played himself into the 3rd spot

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions  

yea, havn't seen much of king

it was fletch that got owned rather visibly last week

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

He’s done rather well against Bowe tonight (at least from what I’ve seen).

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fletcher matches up well against Bowe though

I would think his style fits in certain situations and King others, in terms of 3rd CBs.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

An update because I know you're all so very interested

UNT over Ball St. 10-0 at the half

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Who do we want to win?

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

UNT!

It’s the opening salvo of the Riley Dodge era

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berlin seems to be doing alright

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Jason Smith...

…looks comfy. I like.

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 8:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Stanley…that was ugly.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

tv

I am in St. Louis area and direct tv – Fox is not playing the game for me… anyone else have this problem

by fltfire on Sep 3, 2009 8:11 PM CDT reply actions  

and Stanley redeems himself

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

he definately is

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea,, sorry null

un;ess null comes in and throws 4 tds

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

TD baby!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:16 PM CDT reply actions  

i think we have some solid guys on the second team OL

they’re blocking well…against the KC second teamers, but still

Turf Show Times

by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 8:17 PM CDT reply actions  

nice pressure their.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

VICTOR AGAIN!

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

That’s for sure. He looks like he’s improving…definately a good backup.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adeyanju...

…seems like he’s gonna be a great rotation guy. And apparently we’ve been dominated by the Chiefs. Funny, I don’t recall our star runningback playing into the 2nd quarter like theirs did…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 8:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

and bowe

against our fourth corner 1/2 way through 2nd

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know it's early and I know it's Ball St.

but Riley Dodge (QB, UNT) officially made my freshman NFL prospect list tonight.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 8:25 PM CDT reply actions  

that is early

BallState QB factory!

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Nate Davis was solid

but this kid they have in tonight isn’t getting much to work with.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's being Tivo'ed this morning

at like 3AM. But there’s regular season college football and preseason NFL football. As the draft guru for TST, I have to set my priorities accordingly, no?

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course you do Mel

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha Ha I understand 3k... NASCAR and Football coincide

and I feel overwhlelmed myself, especially if Kasey makes the chase this year

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well scratch the Berlin momentum.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I’m no expert but It wouldn’t seem that hard if he was looking right at him pumped it to the guy.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Berlin eyed the left side the whole time

… never looked off… a good play by the defender, but Berlin made it easy

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

the crummy thing is

they’ll get 3 pts off that turnover

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s better then 7

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

then again the defense

didn’t let them punch it in from red zone

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alright Null

get ready for show time

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 3, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

He has a chance after that INT

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah You...

…has a nice jump off the ball. Gotta wrap up though…

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 8:31 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

those are guys

who they are actually considering for RT, and is their kickers name suck up

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

fu

these announcers suck ass

by gomer7 on Sep 3, 2009 8:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Where's Avery

I’m not watching and NFL.com says he didn’t catch a ball the first half. Was he playing?

The poster formerly known as JoeyBombs.

by RasRoY on Sep 3, 2009 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I just got off work and started watching the game. Hows Jason Smith been doing?

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Sep 3, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

we failed on some blitz pickups

and allowed a couple long runs via missed tackles

by VTramsFan on Sep 3, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

BUTLER!!!

Pick 6!

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Sep 3, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Is it ok.

If I cry if we end the pre-season 3-1?

It is milk it may be spilled it may be delicious.

by shostag on Sep 3, 2009 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Haha

After the past few years YES it is.

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Sep 3, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Riley Dodge in the 2012 draft

UNT looking like a real college team. On the verge of sealing off a win vs. Ball St.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll join you shostag...

…I know it’s preseason, but they look miles ahead of last year…:)

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

NICE

I will never get tired of reading that

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

King

one handed pick!

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Sep 3, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Thigpen

More completions to the Rams than to the Chiefs

by thehalobender on Sep 3, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Did I just hear

That BERLIN was sacked? I am watching on a really grainy online feed… is null out?

by thehalobender on Sep 3, 2009 9:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Our CB unit...

1. Bartell
2. Wade
3. Fletcher
4. King
5. Butler

Thoughts?

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 9:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I would say

3tie for Fletch & King based on matchups

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 3, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm..

Delivery, Crunch, Sack of the game. Its all chiefs plays! Give the Rams some respect!

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Sep 3, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

ooohhh

that screen play almost went for a TD

by thehalobender on Sep 3, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Where are we in the game?

I wanna see if that man justin who likes his tv is up to date?

by BruinHalo on Sep 3, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Darell Scott...

…has been impressive. Nice little swim move and a big hit on the QB. I’m pretty sure he wrapped up a guy for a loss earlier…props. Great depth guy, maybe a starter someday.

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 9:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Dorrell Scott

making his presence felt

by PCarn on Sep 3, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Has anyone looked at the Cardinals game?

they are down 16-0! wow they seem to be getting off to slow starts

by PCarn on Sep 3, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

agreed

Rams fan since '91

by GS88 on Sep 3, 2009 9:41 PM CDT reply actions  

is oogboogha

playing his way off the team?

by thehalobender on Sep 3, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

My waterworks are rolling!...

…we finished 3-1 in a season. That’s 75% wins. Let me be. :D

Just preseason, but encouraging. Anyone want to take a guess at who secured their job that didn’t look so sure before the game? Personally, I’m wondering how the 3rd runningback situation is going down. I mean, Gado has risen from nowhere and is the undisputed #2, but neither Pittman, Darby, nor Obanayya (?) have shown anything.Think Spags will go with the rook?

by LARamsFan29 on Sep 3, 2009 10:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d say Darby or Obgonayya.

Spagamania is in full bloom

by Eric Nagel on Sep 3, 2009 10:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't celebrate yet...

Lions went 4-0 in preseason last year!

by 81 Witness on Sep 4, 2009 12:24 AM CDT reply actions  

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