Coaching Staff is about to be Tested
It's almost a fourth of the way into the season, and things are looking bleak. Granted, you couldn't really expect a rapid turn around, but after these last three games played out, a win (or two- much less probable) could have easily happened.
With all the injuries and lack of just about everything, the coaching staff is going to be tested. Of course you have to give them time, but in the NFL, that just doesn't happen. I'll start with the coordinators before going into our Head Coach. Hit the jump to read more.
Firstly, you have our offensive coordinator, Pat Shurmur. He's already come under criticism from almost every angle and rightfully so. Play calling mostly, but people around here have also been concerned with the amount of touches Steven Jackson recieves a game (which was rectified last week, he had 32 touches). You can blame the play of the offense on the personnel and their inability to an extent, but it's the coaches job to realize this and make changes. Using gadget plays on 3rd down (or calling a short throw when both of your QB's have a completion percentage of 51.6% or lower) when you have a running back who is averaging 5.06 yards per touch is questionable and so is not airing the ball out when your receivers are quite fast. It's kind of quirky, but also in the Seahawks game the decision was made to punt the ball instead of attempting a long range field goal (at a somewhat familiar stadium to Josh Brown no less). I'm no sideline expert, so I am unsure of how much exactly is Shurmur's responsibility, but the play calling and decisions rest on the coaching staff.
I'll lump Flajole amd Spag's together here, as they both are defensive minds. I think it's more of a personnel issue here, but when you've had three games, you know what works and what doesn't. If everything doesn't work, then that's fine, but for someone so renowned at getting pressure on the QB, it's a bit of a headscratcher when they can't. Now, the defensive line isn't anything special, but I refuse to believe that no one on the defensive side of the ball is capable of producing pressure, or that the offensive lines we have faced so far are immovable walls of 300lb men.
This is more of a general staff issue, but for all the talk about having "football people" in charge, the lack of preparedness is eye-opening. Over the last three weeks, it's been surprising to see that the same things have been happening with no changes. Keenan Burton and Daniel Fells finally started contributing, even after McMichael and Avery have had butterfingers for three weeks now. Steven Jackson didn't get many touches the first few weeks and even though he has been averaging a good amount, they still shy away in the fourth quarter. Conserving the clock is one thing, but when you constantly have three and outs, it really doesn't matter anymore.
With one final note- It will be interesting to see how things play out. Linehan had 20 horrible games (2006 was an outlier- one missed Josh Brown field goal and he might still be here) before getting the boot, and while I think this staff is much better, I'm curious to see how fans get when the season is about to end. Will you still have the same faith if nothing changes throughout the season? How many drafts will it take for you to think that things are turning around? What will happen to Vobora (taking illegal substances isn't exactly a "good character" choice)- will they punish him more or will they just let it slide?
How long are you willing to wait for results?
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Interesting timing
I just set a post to publish that is very relevant to this one. I’ll edit it tomorrow to drop a link back to this one to make sure everyone reads both, because this is a crucial decision for Billy Devaney.
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I want to hear more (reasoned) criticism of Shurmur
What is it exactly that people don’t like? If the offensive execution (i.e. blocking, route-running) stinks, is it the coordinator’s fault? I’m just playing devil’s advocate here. Other than some third down play-calling, and the limited touches for SJ in week 1 (partly understandable because the game got to 21-0 so fast), I haven’t been too critical of Shurmur yet. And yet there’s already a “Shurmur must go” contingent? Seems awful early for that.
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Few things that I don't like:
Predictability- we ran the ball on every single first down not in a two minute drill. A simple play action or just a pass and we could get a big play out of it.
Also partly under predictability we do not go deep enough. Defenses can sit in the box and wait for Jackson and still be in perfect position to defend or little short passes. If we can go deep every once in a while, teams will spread out opening up the short gains.
Also, this was mostly week 1, but he has to run his offense around the players he has. You cannot run bootlegs with Bulger. He cannot throw on the run. Period. He never completed a pass in the bootleg.
Very, very, easy plan to defend I would think. Never having to defend past the first down marker.
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
I’d agree. Everything is too predictable. When he tries to be unpredictable (running gadget plays, wildcat? Steven Jackson is a beast, but he’s no Barry Sanders. He may be elusive for a 240lb running back, but let’s be honest, there is no point in that play anymore).
It just seems to be meh in general.
Spagamania is in full bloom
Some counterpoints...
I get what you both are saying, but here are a couple of counterpoints.
Running the ball on first downs has generated a lot of favorable second downs for the Rams. They may not be blasting down the field, but we are seeing a lot more extended drives as this offense gets in sync.
And I think they are sending receivers deep, but they’re just covered all the time. Bulger in particular is not going to force a throw that isn’t there. With Boller, we might see higher-risk throws, and discover that we do have these deep patterns going.
One point on running the offense with the players he has, is that Bulger has always preferred a 7-step drop, whereas this offense runs on a 5-step drop. So does that mean that the OC has to recalibrate all his routes to accommodate the extra time it takes Bulger to get comfortable? Or does he spend the time in training camp and the preseason teaching players new skills? It’s a little painful to watch Bulger rolling out, because he’s slower than my grandmother, but at the same time moving the pocket is a good strategy with this line, to delay the rush. Ultimately, it’s on the players to be in shape and to perform.
But I agree completely on the wildcat. It’s not fooling anyone — particularly with Bulger lined up as a WR. That’s just ludicrous.
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I'm fine with running on a lot of first downs
But it just seemed like it was every single first down.
And the difference between a 5 and 7 step drop wasn’t what I was talking about. A good QB should be able adjust to that. Bulger just can’t throw on the run so using bootlegs is completely useless, and an automatic waste of a down, so the concept of delaying the rush is really not important if the QB can’t make the plays. Every time he has run a bootleg he runs to the sideline and then throws the ball away. And if you do change back to a seven step drop you’re not teaching them all new skills, they’re still doing the same things if you’re. The lineman are still pass blocking the receivers are just running routes for maybe .5 seconds more.
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
I'm not kidding
When I say on a few first down plays, the Pack had 10 (yes 10) men in the box within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage. I had to do a double take and see if Buddy Ryan was on the sideline.
We are THAT predictable particularly on 1st down. Tell me we couldn’t execute a play action pass in a few of these situations? That’s the whole key to running alot on first down… to LOOK predictable and set up some other things… we are not doing this period.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
I agree.
I have no problem with running almost primarily on first down. Especially if it’s working. But mix in a play action from time to time and that 4 or 5 yard gain might turn into a 20 yarder or even better.
The only thing I can think of is they’re scared to death (so to speak) to be in a 2nd and 10 situation where the defense knows they’re going to pass and they know we don’t have the horses to fool ’em.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
If the QB can’t do the system, and the team is dedicated to the QB, I’d say yes they do need to recalibrate. I wouldn’t change the ENTIRE system, but if you’re stuck with him (forced or he was chosen) it’d probably be in your best interest to make him feel comfortable and relaxed.
He may not be a great QB, you may hate him, etc. but the best option for the Rams is to make it so he plays his best. At this point, I’d give it a try.
This offense is horrible, anything they can do to spice it up should at least be attempted.
Going with a failing product is going to turn the Rams into GM. If your program won’t work, change it up a bit.
Spagamania is in full bloom
One season isn't going to ruin anything.
This isn’t something Spags and Devaney are going to stick with for years down the road. They’ll make changes where it’s possible, but some positions (like QB) just had to wait a year.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I'm fine with running the football 90% of the time...
Get SJax and Darby out there and hand ‘em the football. Up the middle, right, left, sweep, pitch out, reverse, double reverse, etc. Use Boller or Null on a QB sneak every once in a while. Then throw in a shovel pass or two and an occasional screen. At least we’ll chew up some clock and get a few more first downs and keep the opponents offense off the field. Running plays tend to wear down a defense quicker too. Then, maybe every 20th play, launch a bomb and see if we can get lucky. We got absolutely nothing to lose. If we let the 49ers offense stay on the field for 35 minutes next Sunday, they’ll stomp us by 30 points.
Why not. I actually wished the Chargers would have dumped LT for that circus midget Sproles so we could have picked him up.
Could you imagine a Rams team that just pounds the ball down people’s throats with SJ and LT?
Spagamania is in full bloom
I'd rather have Sproles, of the two
And as for the “run the ball 90% of the time,” you’re only being half-serious, right? We’d never see the far side of the 50 the rest of the season, unless we played the Navy Midshipmen.
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i was thinking more of a 55-60% relationship (I think he was exaggerating).
You’d take Sproles? He had a few good games in the postseason and then evvvverrrybody starts liking him. LT may not get 1500 yards and 15 TD’s anymore, but he’d be a great compliment!
Spagamania is in full bloom
In a heartbeat. Sproles is younger, faster, and a better complement to SJ. He’s a dangerous pass-catcher, and plus, he can return kicks. Oh, and he’s significantly cheaper. LT was a great player, no doubt, but he is rapidly approaching the end of his career.
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Me too.
LDT is running on fumes.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
Part of the problem started even before the season began
Namely, the poor personnel decisions that has characterized this team since well before this bunch came to town, seem to have continued, with only marginal improvement, at best.
Granted, we are ridiculously hamstrung by a bunch of bad contracts, but still, management hasn’t quite seemed to accept that we are in full rebuilding mode.
Management? Or the fans?
I think “Management” does fully acknowledge the situation the franchise is in. Witness the massive roster turnover. Witness the massive coaching turnover. Witness the release of Torry Holt and Orlando Pace. Only a team “in full rebuilding mode” makes these moves. The fact that we still have some holdover players reflects the financial impossibility of moving them, in many cases, and the team is doing the best it can with them.
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That’s true. I think the problem is that even in rebuilding mode, everyone (fans, players, coaches, etc) want to win. That’s an obvious statement and some of the examples I chose for Shurmur weren’t exactly steady quibbles, but more of a “c’mon you know better then that”.
This team isn’t good, so why not look for what works and then stick with it. Steven Jackson can only do so much, so why not find someone who can help? Daniel Fells had a good week, yet this is the first time he’s been used. McMichael’s had the dropsies for a few weeks now, so maybe it’s time for him to realize he needs to improve or Fells will transition into that pass catching TE role.
Spagamania is in full bloom
I think it's a question of how soon do TPTB think we can win
They seem to think we are a year or two away from playing winning football, whereas, I think most people would agree that outside of SJ and a couple O-linemen, the entire offense needs to be revamped. Do they think that Bulger, or even Boller or Null, is the quarterback that will lead us to contending football? If so, then give them something to throw to other than what is arguably the worst receiving corps in the NFL.
If not, then outside of the further development of a couple of O-linemen, this will pretty much a completely wasted year on the offensive side of the ball.
TPTB? What does that mean? Sorry if I’m ignorant of a term that’s been around…
I agree with you about the quarterback situation, but that’s why I think it’s important for Shurmur to validate his schemes, rather than change them too radically to “fit the personnel.” He will likely outlast the quarterbacks on the roster. Of course he has to make adjustments as the season goes on, and I would also like to see more play-action, for example.
But if the Rams can dominate the clock and start putting 20+ points on the board, using this “run-based West Coast offense” hybrid, then that’s a positive statement worth continuing in the coming years. This same offense is coming under harsh scrutiny in Washington, though, and I think there are valid questions about its viability.
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TPTB = The powers that be
Yeah, my main problem with this offense is that we have no legitimate deep threat in the passing game to prevent teams from constantly loading up the box. Without the threat of the long pass, defenses will be able to consistently stop both our running game and our short passing attack.
I tend to agree
If you’re not attacking all three levels of a defense, you’re not doing your job. I think back to the Giants-Ravens super bowl, and just how thoroughly that Giants offense was destroyed, because the Ravens had absolutely nothing to fear by putting essentially everyone in the box. There were times on TV when you could see the entire Baltimore defense on the screen before the ball was snapped.
Contrast that to the Giants team that was rebuilt and beat the Pats — still a run-oriented team, but one that was capable of stretching the defense.
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Yeah, i find it odd.
that anyone could compare this management team to the previous and say something like “status quo” like they’re making the exact same mistakes. They turned over every part of the roster they could under the salary cap going from one of the oldest teams in the NFL to one of the youngest in one offseason.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
I think this is the closest poll I've seen
I knew this would be a bad year for Ws. Decisions need to be made to inhibit player development. I think they are. I’m impatient and hate losses, but I DO see player development. We need about 2 drafts worth of "picking the most talented player available, rather than drafting for need, as well as continued free agent cycling, to add to this player development. But I digress,I have drilled that into the ground before and my detractors are clear.I still think Spagnuolo is the right coach. I voted for 2 more years like Linehan.

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