The pain continues - Rams slide to 0-3 after losing home opener to Green Bay, 36-17
by 3k on Sep 27, 2009 3:20 PM CDT
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Van is inactive right now, so I'm covering down on post-game duties. It's a tough job. I'll post my grades either later tonight or tomorrow when I summon the motivation, because every week gets harder and harder to accept.
A couple thoughts:
- The early turnovers killed us. They handed phenomenal field position to the Packers (who were only able to get 6 points off them, credit to the D), they killed the momentum of the game, and one of them resulted in an injury to our starting QB.
- Injuries were huge. Bulger, Butler, Robinson... We can't afford to lose what talent we have to injuries.
- The pass rush disappeared quickly. Leonard Little was able to get two early sacks, but where was everyone else? This is one of the worst O-lines in terms of pass protection, and we only tallied two sacks on the aging back of LL.
- Steven Jackson is a hoss.
- We defended the run very well, but the long passes to Greg Jennings and Donald Driver killed us. They're the kind of plays we had hoped we could get out of Donnie Avery. The only pass the Rams have completed for more than 25 yards was a 45 yarder at the very end of the Seattle game from Bulger to Robinson.
- On a positive note, Incognito got through another game without doing anything stupid.
- Bulger or Boller? The Rams, now 0-3, are traveling to San Francisco who is now 2-1 after an incredibly demoralizing loss in Minnesota (who the Rams will play after the Niners). Who gets the nod? Bulger has experienced losing in a Rams uniform while Boller can scramble out of busted plays.
- At some point, the Rams will win. It's ugly right now, and that makes it tough to profess one's Ram fandom in public, but there are improvements. The degree of those improvements is what this season revolves around. Nobody should have expected the 2009 Rams to make the playoffs. You would have been fair in expecting somewhere between 5-7 wins. That looks difficult now. Keep the faith.
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& on top of it all
Detroit won… nuff said.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was THANKFUL that the Lions won...
Even if the Rams lose out until November 1st, at least it won’t be an 0’fer toilet bowl of a game.
I love this team.
by Downing Rules on Sep 28, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Garcia could be getting released from the Eagles once McNabb is back
He already plays for the Eagles and I’d be willing to give him a shot at starting for us
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Incognito needs to get it together, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Boller’s performance were very Bulger like (the recent vintage Bulger). Except for actually throwing for 2 TDs.
And personally, I’m not sure the Rams will win this year. They look terrible. Truly terrible. As bad as football team I’ve seen. I expected 2-14, I think that 1-15 is more likely. 0-16 is a possiblity, though it’s really hard to lose 16, you ge ta fluke win once in a while. But with Detroit beating the Redskins, they’ve demonstrated that they are a better team than the Rams.
by DiscoJer on Sep 27, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And yeah...
Horses can’t hold onto the football very well either, so it’s perhaps a good description of Mr. Jackson…
by DiscoJer on Sep 27, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had one fumble when the play should have been blown dead
you’re overreacting just like every other damn rams fan on this board. the rams had 15 minutes today where they actually looked good. and you go out and call them truly terrible. at some point, they will win a game. if i was the opposition, i would not enjoy playing the rams right now.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not agreeing that the Rams aren't going to win
But you need more than 15 minutes of looking good to win a football game in the nfl. that means there was 45 minutes when we did not look good. We do look pretty bad, we have a chance to win a couple of games or so, but we need to be able to play an entire good game to win, not just 1/4th of a good game.
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that 15 minutes of good made it a game all the way up until about 10 minutes to go
this is another step forward. if the rams can put together more stretches of those 15 minutes looking good, they will eventually have a solid football team.
this was another classic case of a few plays going the wrong way that drastically changed the game. if the early brown field goal doesn’t get blocked, it’s a different game. if greg jennings doesn’t make that catch in the fourth quarter, it’s a different game. if randy mcmichael makes the catch to keep the drive alive for the go ahead TD, it’s a different game. i’m telling you, these plays will eventually go the rams’ way, and then they will start winning games.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
alright, but thats a lot of things that did happen that needed not to happen
We are the worst team in the NFL or very close to it. There’s no way around that. Plays don’t just start going a bad teams way all of the sudden. When we play a team with two great receivers, they are going to make big plays, since we only have 1 good CB. They go the other way because the players are good enough to make plays go the other way. We might get a few plays here and there but the other teams keep getting the plays because they have the players.
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but that's what i'm saying
if just one of those plays goes a different way, it’s a different game. the rams are eventually going to start getting the benefit on some of those plays, especially on the defensive side of the ball.
and i will continue to say this, the rams are FAR better than the browns on both sides of the ball.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No it isn't
It’s 4 plays. The FG block was avoidable. The long pass to Jennings was a mistake by the coverage. Spags was screaming onto the field trying to tell the safety (not sure which one it was) that he needed to cover Jennings deep. It didn’t happen. And finally, Randy McMichael needs to catch a pass that hits him in the hands. Period.
These are things that are easily corrected (should have never happened in the first place) and had drastic effects on the game.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Sep 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't say
everyone on this board is negative… it may lean that way, but not everyone
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland and Tampa will be ahead of us in the draft order, IMO
Rams are a second-division team, no doubt, but the schedule is hurting them too. There are a lot of truly bad football teams this year, and if the Rams lined up and played this same game today against the Browns, Bucs, Chiefs or Raiders, they’d have won. Two good quarters is better than 0 good quarters, which is about what we saw last year.
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by taiko on Sep 27, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
and i’d also throw the lions in there.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who used the word "horse" as a description of Jackson?
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Sep 27, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's Offical.....
The Rams are now the worst team in the NFL.
by ZamRam on Sep 27, 2009 4:59 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
absolutely not
cleveland is FAR worse.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't agree
Cleveland, Tampa, and Kansas City I would say are worse. What we have in our favor is that we have a roster full of improving players. Their peaks may not be impressive, but the majority of our team is on the rise in their careers.
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by 3k on Sep 27, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Oakland
I’d put us above those four.
Your uncle molests collies.
by 3k on Sep 27, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
J. Russell threw for 61 yds today…Oakland Sucks! The Rams will turn it around. At least we were competitive today unlike KC, Oakland, TB, and Cleveland. Plus we had some big injuries which obviously isn’t helping.
by ksmooth on Sep 27, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KC was competitive with Baltimore but I still think we might be able to beat them
But we’re definitely better than Oakland TB and Cleveland
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at the Giants / Tampa Box Score
Particularly total yards and time of possession. 86 total yards for Tampa and they had the ball 12 minutes. I immediately felt better about the Rams… not happy still, but better. Tampa has fallen sh far since Sapp retired.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 28, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh how...
the mighty have fallen. Our team is so bad that we have actually been reduced to debating over whether we are the worst team in the league. It’s pathetic. And for the record, now that Detroit has finally won a game, we have the longest current losing streak in the NFL at 13 games.
by victorian on Sep 28, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking At The Schedule
Let’s all chime in and give out opinions about what games are the most winnable from here on out. Mine are in bold.
10/04/09 at San Francisco 49ers (FOX)
10/11/09 MINNESOTA VIKINGS (FOX)
10/18/09 at Jacksonville Jaguars (FOX)
10/25/09 INDIANAPOLIS COLTS (CBS)
11/01/09 at Detroit Lions (FOX)
11/08/09 BYE
11/15/09 NEW ORLEANS SAINTS (FOX)
11/22/09 ARIZONA CARDINALS (FOX)
11/29/09 SEATTLE SEAHAWKS (FOX)
12/06/09 at Chicago Bears (FOX)
12/13/09 at Tennessee (FOX)
12/20/09 HOUSTON TEXANS (CBS)
12/27/09 at Arizona Cardinals (FOX)
01/03/09 SAN FRANCISCO (FOX)
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
correction...
I also think one of the last two games will be winnable as well, as one of them will have the division wrapped up and sitting most of their starters.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, the schedule is very intimidating
the rams may very well be looking at 0-7 before heading to detroit. but these are things you just can’t think about.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Sep 27, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea there's a lot that can happen
Injuries, maybe we catch an offensive spark, maybe a team goes into a downward spiral etc however if we faced any of these teams right now, it is dismal… but we are headed in the right direction.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most winnable?
I’m not 100% sure what makes a game “more/most” winnable and I’m not positive if you’re asking us to predict wins or just point out games where the Rams have a chance to win. Honestly, they have a chance to win all of those games. It’s not going to happen, but they have a chance. Anyway, if I were looking at games to circle thinking the Rams have a better chance to win those than the other games, i’d circle Jacksonville, Detroit, Arizona, Seattle, Tennessee, Houston, and San Francisco.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Sep 27, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I should have rephrased...
Our “best shot” at winning, given our present situation. Obviously we could win any game.
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After watching this game I'm not sure what we need to draft next year
QB or WR, its hard to tell whose fault the passing game is. I’d have to go with QB, since Boller was able to get a couple TD’s in there. Bulger isn’t making decisions quick enough and is trying not to take any risks. We need a fresh young QB who isn’t afraid of getting sacked yet.
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it was obvious
Boller makes quicker decisions. He’s not that good, mind you, but he does make quicker decisions. And I wouldn’t put a whole lot of stock into two touchdowns to Daniel Fells. While I think it did hurt Boller (and the offense) when the only part of the receiving corps went down with an injury, he still made a lot of really bad throws.
Overall, I think Bulger has been throwing the ball better while Boller seemed to react and make decisions quicker (and maybe a little better). I’m not sure which is better. But, I do know we need Laurent Robinson back as soon as possible and I don’t care where Ruvell Martin is in his learning curve, he had better be on the field next week against the ’Niners.
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
by Tackle Box on Sep 27, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we could combine the two
Bulger’s accuracy, with Boller’s quick decision making and speed.
That would be great. Maybe we should give Boller a mic into Bulgers helmet so he can tell him where to throw.
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Play calling horrid... beyond horrid
"The greatest accomplishment is not in never falling, but in rising again after you fall." - Vince Lombardi
by VTramsFan on Sep 27, 2009 5:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
+ infinity
Lets get someone with half a brain to do playcalling
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I
thought the play calling would be much different. Seriously, what in the hell is Shurmur thinking? Why isn’t Steven getting more catches? He had five receptions today, for an average of 9.2 yards per reception. Clearly, SJ knows what to do when he catches the football. Get him the ball on every damn play at this point. It’s the only thing that’s working, other than Daniel Fells, who was impressive today.
Defensively, we’re a joke. I give the defense big-time credit for keeping the game close early, but they made some terrible mistakes. Where’s Chris Long? Does anyone know? I’m not counting him out yet, but I get the feeling that he is never going to live up to being the No.2 overall pick in the draft. I can’t stand watching this team right now.
by BruinFanBaby on Sep 27, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Long
Chris Long definitley needs to step up and make an impact. He was the 2nd pick in the draft and needs to become some sort of playmaker for this team. It’s still very early in his career but I’d like to see some more big plays out of him. Mistakes are fine but show me something above average once in a while.
by ksmooth on Sep 27, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and to make things worse Brian Leonard
makes a key play to help the Bengals beat the Steelers
SHURMUR NEEDS TO GO, Avery needs to get it going.
by Carneros on Sep 27, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The best thing I can say about this year so far is that by being out here in So Cal I don’t get to watch them play anymore.I see peeps debating about how the Lions or the Browns are worse then the Rams, but I mean c’mon if you gotta have a conversation about who is the crap of the league to justify your teams play then it’s worse then I thought.It’s like saying that last year the Rams were a pile of crap and that this year they are improved and are now only a piece of crap!!!I been a fan for 41 years and it’s getting so very old every year how bad the Rams SUCK!!Ever since the Dickerson era ended the only time this team hasn’t been a laughing stock of the NFL, was for the very short time they were known as “the greatest show on turf”. I’m really sorry for sounding so negative it’s just that too many years of banging my head against the wall following this team and it’s ineptitude have gotten to me
by peteyweestro on Sep 27, 2009 7:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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