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Adam Carriker's climb back up the depth chart

Adam Carriker will have to work hard this season to avoid the dreaded bust label that stalks first round picks like a bad groupie. Though it's still way too early to hang that stone around his neck, 2009 is make or break for the St. Louis Rams defensive tackle and 2007 first round pick.

For a "make or break" season, 2009 is already off to a rough start for Carriker, whose ankle injury (the same one that dogged him in his first two years at Nebraska and again last season) flared up and made Gary Gibson the current starter at left defensive tackle. The good news is that Gary Gibson looks to have been a nice get for the team, adding depth at a position where they've lacked it recently. The extra motivation for Carriker to fight his way back to the starting job doesn't hurt either.

But is Carriker really a bust? The fact that injuries have plagued his career since he tore a labrum late in his rookie season feed that impression. You can't be a success if you're not on the field, and being on the field at less than 100% in the NFL doesn't make it any easier for young players to develop into reliable starters.Being moved around the defensive line in his first season didn't help the rookie's development either.

The sorry state of the Rams run defense hasn't helped perceptions of Carriker either. Carriker might get too much blame for the porous limestone that was the Rams run defense. According to data at Football Outsiders, Carriker has done better than it seems against the run since his rookie year. The chart below looks at rushing plays targeting Carriker over the last two seasons and accounts for the number of stops he made, the number of defeats (total number of plays by a defensive player that prevent the offense from gaining first down yardage on third or fourth down, stop the offense behind the line of scrimmage, or result in a turnover.) and the yards per attempt on those plays.

Year Plays Stops Defts YPA
2007 26 23 6 1.5
2008 23 20 4 2.1

Carriker's rookie numbers are nice, and his numbers last year could have been a lot worse when factoring in a bum ankle. The Rams problems against the run had much more to do with the team's weak spots at linebacker and strong safety, not to mention the lack of a stronger nose tackle.

Against the pass Carriker hasn't shown himself to be the force many thought he could be. He did have two sacks (and a safety) in 2007; one of those came while he was lined up at DE. He didn't ge much penetration last year, but that certainly had to do with his ankle and a defense that didn't push tackles send up the field as heavily as others. Under Spagnuolo and Flajole, Carriker is expected to do better in a more aggressive system, where he'll play in the gaps rather than directly over a lineman (for more on that see past editions of the Playbook Projector). 

While it's still too early to call Adam Carriker a bust, he definitely has to prove himself this year. Will he work his way back up to the first team? It's very possible. I would point out that he hasn't been playing since August 7, when he was injured in the scrimmage. Being on the third team means he'll get plenty of reps this week against the Chiefs. Easing him back into the banging and clanging of regular season play probably isn't a bad idea either, first team or not.

As you watch Carriker attempt to climb his way back to relevancy, keep an eye on how he shoots gaps in action against Kansas City this week, and watch who he gets paired with on the line in the game and in practice. As for the bust label, his ankle might have the final say on that matter.

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Great read

I hate you for being a good writer, sometimes. Carriker and Tye Hill (and to a degree Marc Bulger) to me are the most interesting players on the team. They represent the previous era of the Rams more than anyone and I think they will either be swept under by the tides of change or persevere on talents that the previous management teams could not unearth (aside from Bulger).

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Aug 31, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

It was a good read

I dont blame for the tye hill pick, at the time it is what everyone suggested. The dude actually looked good his rookie year. Clearly hindsight tells us that cromartie was a better pick, but that draft is loaded with garbage busts

by gomer7 on Sep 1, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Carriker's health is

the difference for him

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by Ryan Van Bibber on Sep 1, 2009 6:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

no i dont agree with you 3K

At least Mark Bulger has played at a very high level in the past and we are all hopping that he can regain his old form,but dont talk to me about Carriker or Hill,cause they both plain out SUCK and if C Long dont step it up this year he too will be in the same level as those two,im already wishing we had drafted Mcfaden instead of C.Long

by james535 on Sep 2, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well so much for Tye Hill

But I still find Carriker an interesting study, especially with this being his third year. As for Chris Long vs. McFadden, I can guarantee you Raiders fans wished they had Chris Long last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if that sentiment is repeated this year.

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by 3k on Sep 2, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tye Hill has struggled thus far

and Carriker has yet to really play. I totally agree… the players you mentioned are big question marks for sure.. who will we see? Sleeping tigers awakened, or same ole same ole.

by VTramsFan on Aug 31, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

carriker could boot wroten off the mountain, but-

i think joe klopfenstein, brian leonard, tye hill, and claude wroten are the Mount Rushmore of the Linehan era.

by mooseknuckles41 on Aug 31, 2009 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

This might be a little farfetchd

But has anyone thought about putting the guy back at defensive end? I mean chris long has been pretty ineffective, James Hall could easily fill his reps with the majority going to clifton ryan, gibson, and D. Scott. Maybe try to fuel some determination in Long and when Little retires (I am in no way urging this) have Long and Carricker pounding those tackles. I just look at long and see him trying to overpower those tackles all too often and if thats what we want, then I would ask Carricker who is more capable.

Sometimes I wish we had taken Dorsey so Carricker could kick out and we might have a dominant line. Dorsey hasn’t looked good in the 3-4 but possibly could have been that 4-3 type, creating a run stopping right side and a pass rushing left? I hate saying things like this, but Carricker and Long are so alike in their approach and maybe theres only room for one power-rushing sack guy on this team.

by kinzav29 on Aug 31, 2009 11:21 PM CDT reply actions  

if you are inpatient

if you are getting impatient with Long, then you would be even more so with Dorsey. Calling Long ineffective is rediculous at this point and his problem isnt determination. Players take time to develope. It took Ted Washington and Sam Adams years to be worth a shit.

by gomer7 on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Adam Carriker

Let’s face it!

Carriker is playing out of position… Let’s see – - The kid is the Big 12 defensive lineman of the year as a DE… He gets drafted by the Rams and they move him inside… undersized for an inside guy… but the kid gives it a shot. The previous staff complicates things by having him play NT and the 3 technique. He blows his shoulder out in the last game of 2007 season (a very productive rookie year by the way) due in part because he is out of position.

The off-season is spent in rehab for the injury, there is no heavy lifting and he struggles in 2008 stat wise so people say “BUST”

Taking on double teams so the LB’ers can make plays is the role of an inside guy… They shouldn’t get great stats but the LB’ers should.

SPAGS is a great coach but he runs a 4-3! Carriker would be okay as an DE in the 4-3 but would probably never really be a fantastic 4-3 DE.

Carriker will never be a great fit in Saint Louis or in a 4-3 Defense… but he could be with a 3-4 team!

I say trade him – The Chargers or the Niners must have a WR the Rams can get for Carriker. It could be a win-win for both AC and the Rams!

Coach H

by Coach H on Sep 1, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Carriker in a 3-4, yes

but to get him there via trade? His value has to be pretty damn low right now. What WR would you want from SD or SF?

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on Sep 2, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i agree in a trade for Carriker yes please lol

ill take a draft high draft pic if there is no WR to trade for and honestly i dont care what defense you play him in he sucks,but he looks like a monster i hope some team takes there chance with him lol

by james535 on Sep 2, 2009 8:32 AM CDT reply actions  

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