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Where things stand: A mid-August assessment of the Rams defense

Continuing our mid-August assessment of where the remade, rebuilding St. Louis Rams stand as they head into the 2009 season, we turn to the defense today. I'll spare you the lengthy intro we had in yesterday's post for the offense, though the "Get low and stick 'em" seems to be especially relevant to today's discussion.

Starting with the questions facing the entire defense and continuing with a snap shot of each unit...

Will the run defense improve?

After a good outing versus a Jets team missing 60% of their starting offensive line, the Rams run defense looked much like last year's against the Falcons last week. But digging below the surface, is it really the same problem as before? The lack of personnel was primarily to blame for much of the Rams troubles against the run in recent seasons. Among other things, the defense dearly missed a true middle linebacker, some size in the middle of the d-line, and a physical strong safety. You could argue whether or not the Rams are any better in the middle of the d-line, but they have made significant upgrades to the other two positions.

Last week's problems against the Falcons and RB Michael Turner were two fold. First, the defense got beat as a unit via misdirection and some strange alignments. That's what got the party started, so to speak, on Turner's 43-yard run on the Falcons first drive of the game. The defense, especially the quarterbacking MLB, needs to do better picking up that kind of stuff. That could be the difference between 5 yards and 43 more often than not. Second, fundamentals, i.e. "getting low and sticking 'em," were notably absent among the first teamers last week. MIssed tackling, poor wrapping, it was all there.

The good news about those two issues is that they can be resolved. The first team will have two quarters to get it right against the Bengals this week. Watch for improvement in those areas.

Will the pass rush be more ferocious and more frequent?

Given their surprise at the blitzes used by Rex Ryan and the Jets in game one, it's safe to assume that the Rams coaches aren't calling the same amount and style of pass rushes that they would otherwise employ in the regular season. Still, you have to wonder why we're not seeing more of those aggressive plays we've heard so much about.

The personnel leave some questions about the pass rush. James Hall and Leonard Little are the main guys up front, and they're also two of the Rams oldest players. We'd also like to see some better pocket crashing from the defensive tackles. Witherspoon will figure more into the pass rush now that he's been set free on the weakside again. I don't know that we've seen any blitz packages featuring safeties or corners through the preseason, but we're likely to once the games count.

Will the secondary be adequate and able to adapt to the more physical version of man coverage the Rams play to use?

The jury is still out this one too. The secondary displayed some of that poor tackling mentioned above. Against the pass, Rams defenders have been beaten more than once by well-made throws and catches, pure and simple. The WR was covered, but it was just one of those plays where the CB really can't do anything about it save for a penalty; Mark Sanchez's throw exemplifies this. I wonder though about the jams at the line, when the defenders can throw lesser receivers off their timing and route? I expect to see more mileage out of that technique. (See this post from Rams Herd for more discussion on the secondary). There's a balance question here. Are we not seeing more pass rush up front because the Rams coaches don't trust the secondary enough to leave them on their own? Or is it just more of a playbook thing and the team still being in evaluation mode, especially for the cornerback gig?

Position by position...

Defensive end - Little and James Hall have looked great in practice and in the game, save for Turner's afore mentioned 43-yard run between Little and the rest of the defense. Chris Long had a bad night against the Jets, and started slow against the Falcons. He did show improvement and got off the ball faster and generally displaying the high motor that's his biggest asset; he has to do more. 

Defensive tackle - MIA with an ankle injury through the first two outings of the preseason, Adam Carriker will likely return to action this week. The 2007 first round draft pick has lots to prove. Supposedly, this scheme is a better fit for his skill set by putting him a 3-technique rather than miscast as a nose tackle. In camp's early work, he was speedy and impressive. Now, he's competing for a starting job. Gary Gibson, who Carriker is competing against, established himself as more than just a camp body with a good outing against the Jets. I was impressed with this year's fourth round pick Darell Scott against the Falcons last week, where he picked up a sack crashing the pocket. The addition of Hollis Thomas has yet to be very noticeable, but an if we see an improved run defense that could change.

Linebacker - The linebackers have looked better this year than in previous seasons...until those ugly missed tackles and misreads last week. Even the usually solid Chris Draft failed to bring his man down. James Laurinaitis is bound to have some rookie moments. He has, supposedly, been picking up the defense well and made some nice plays in his preseason work. Animal Jr. has been promising. The SLB spot remains unsettled. Draft is still the guy at this point, but strong preseason performances from Larry Grant, David Vobora, and Chris Chamberlain are making it a horse race. At the very least, those three seem to give our LB corps better depth than we've had in the past.

Safety - The starters make this a good unit. Atogwe has been better in run defense in the preseason, except for some ugly missed tackles last week. Butler didn't do much to distinguish himself against the run, but who did? Todd Johnson still looks like a good depth guy to have. It's probably a good sign that we're not hearing much about this unit at this point. Atogwe leads the team in preseason tackles, but that's because far too often he was the last man between a running back and the goal line against the Falcons.

Cornerback - Sheesh. Where to begin. The big story here was who would claim the spots behind Ron Bartell. So far, nobody has done much to distinguish themselves. Tye Hill is, ostensibly, still the starter opposite Bartell, but he's not looked great in his last two games. He was waaay outmatched against Tony Gonzalez last week. In coverage, he's been able to stay with his man often, but unable to read the play, leaving the play's outcome to be determined exclusively by the QB and his receiver. Justin King has looked decent, but hardly a standout. He had the misfortune of covering Clowney on Mark Sanchez's first NFL pass, a beautifully threaded 48-yarder. In my opinion, King didn't get burned so much as the Jets QB and WR made a nice play. Quincy Butler has made some nice plays in practice, but hasn't been seen much playing against second teamers in preseason games, save for a pass interference penalty against the Falcons. Jonathan Wade has been consistent. This is still a big issue for the Rams to solve.

The defense has lots of work left to do, saddled with heavier expectations that the offense, given the coaching changes. We'll have to see better tackling and better reads this week to have some confidence going forward.

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Good analysis...

…I think our D just had a bad day against an EXCELLENT running team. I mean, that team is stacked and has chemistry running the ball, because they have the weapons to run play action with Roddy White/Tony G. We’re trying to get to that, but I can guarantee that anyone would have issues with defending the run against Atlanta. Laurinaitis, I hope, can develop into a run-stuffer with the best of them, because I’m pretty confident he will be great in pass coverage. He already got an interception, and he was really good at doing that in college. I have no worries there. Atogwe and Butler have looked strong if you as me. Ron Bartell has looked good. As a matter of fact the only question marks I have are the ones you addressed. Chris Draft, our D-Line, and corners 2-5. I’m just baffled by how much pure speed Tye Hill has, and how little it has shown. I mean, it’s blazing! How hard can it really be to turn around, find the ball, and bat it down? He’s got hops too! I’ll excuse him for the Tony Gonzalez one, because that’s a HOF and possibly the greatest TE ever, but Hill, given his physical skills, should be a lock-down CB. I hope Spags irons him out by season’s end. I’m not QUITE ready to give up on the guy, because he did have a good rookie season and, like I mentioned, he’s got the tools. Lets see what Spags can do with him over the course of the year. I believe he was a D-backs coach somewhere. I’m glad Leonard’s injury wasn’t that bad, God knows we need him. I hope Long does his thing during the rest of the preseason. That second year is upon him. He did better against the Falcons so I know that it’s probably just rust getting worked out. Our DTs…hmm…we just need a clear-cut NT. This year’s draft was a good one for them, with BJ Raji/Peria Jerry, Ziggy Hood, but I’d be surprised if we don’t address this issue in the earlier rounds next year. The best way to stop the run is to get penetration up the middle. We could really use an elite NT to do this. I still think the Rams are good enough on D to maybe move into the middle of the pack. Big turnarounds aren’t impossible.

by LARamsFan29 on Aug 25, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

My take

DE – Hooray for Hall and Little. Long has been a disappointment. Missed a sack against the Jets and missed tackles against the Falcons. Things don’t look good for him. I have really liked the play of Eric Moore. Good pressure and instincts, though against 2nd stringers.

DT – Carriker injured, not playing his natural position, ugh. Gibson, he can eat up blockers. Thomas = non-existant. Dorrell Scott single-handedly stopped the Falcons from scoring a TD (sack + stopped a run). Would like to see the Rams insert him against 1st stringers or in 3rd down situations.

LB – Call it the Martz curse. Our tiny linebackers got swallowed up against the Falcons and had trouble shedding blocks. While Laurinitis has the potential to be Urlacher good, may not happen for a couple of years. When Grant wasn’t out of position he looked like a solid tackler along with the Chris twins.

S – Atogwe has been serviceable. J Butler has not been worth the offer he signed in St. Louis. I have yet to see him make plays near the line of scrimmage. All of his plays have occurred downfield. Not good. Our depth isn’t much better.

CB – Bartell is the #1. I disagree with your #2 assessment and I think Wade has earned this position from good aggression at the line and tackling the RBs. I haven’t seen this from the Rams since Dre Bly. He had several good stops and defenses against the Falcons and the Jets. Mr. Hill, you are cuurently just ahead of King to cover the slot. King, sorry you had to cover Clowney, noone can cover him (Ravens looked bad too). Fletcher is good for depth. I am not sold on Q. Butler. Maybe we need a vet or can trade Hill?

by 81 Witness on Aug 25, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

who would want hill

i have been a hill supporter for awhile but i need him to show something, anything. maybe one swatted ball. we’d have to pay someone to take him

by sj39 on Aug 25, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Carriker still playing the nose, I think

The Rams D has consistenly lined up one of its DTs in the nose tackle position so far in the preseason, and with Hall, Little and Long as the other three primary defensive linemen, we’re likely to see Carriker back in that spot.

Also, the more I see Hollis Thomas, the more I think he’s a third-and-short or goal-line only option for the Rams.

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by taiko on Aug 25, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I watched Fletcher this past week.

I didn’t see any WR beating him. I’d like to see him against starters to see just how good he is, but he’s sure looked solid to me. We need CBs who can do more than run with a receiver. They need to be able to knock the ball down when it arrives. Too many of our guys just watch the receiver catch it before taking any action.

by andyrose on Aug 25, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

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