Rosenbloom= Liar?
by Marmie is the best on Jun 2, 2009 7:48 PM CDT
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I believe that Chip Rosenbloom has flat-out lied to the St. Louis public about why he has to sell the team and wanting to keep the team in St. Louis. He has created a situation so that the St. Louis public believes tht he is being forced to sell the team and no St. Louis buyers have stepped up. However, I believe that he does not have to sell the team and a St. Louis buyer had stepped up. However, Rosenbloom does not care at all about the Rams or St. Louis, he just wants to get as much money as possible out the franchise. I don't blame him for that. It's his team and if he wants to sell it, that is his business, but don't try to sell me this sob story.
Chip Rosenbloom said no St. Louis buyer had approached him so he went with Goldman Sachs to help him finds a buyer outside of St. Louis. Dave Checketts said that he approached the Rams months ago with his interest. Someone is not telling the truth. I am more inclined to believe Checketts, who has been a straight-shooter ever since he arrived in St. Louis than Rosenbloom who just two months ago said that the Rams were not for sale and would not be for sale in the foreseeable future. If it really was important to Chip to keep the team in St. Louis then there would have been no reason for him to pay Goldman Sachs for its services. After all, the "cash-strapped" Rosenbloom has to sell the team because of his lack of funds.
Rosenbloom also claims that he is being forced to sell the team because of estate tax issues. He makes it sound like he had never heard of estate taxes until Georgia passed away. John Shaw is supposed to be a top notch lawyer- I am sure that he had some estate tax plan for the Rams if Chip wanted to keep the team. Instead, I am confident that Rosenbloom used the estate tax issue as a reason to give the public that he wanted to sell the team. Georgia certainly had money after years of the Rams making money and Chip is reportedly a good businessman, himself. Of course, every two-bit P-D writer (Bernie) keeps saying that the Rosenblooms are going through "extremely complex estate tax issues" that none of us common people could ever understand. Just becasue Bernie could not even figure out how to work TaxCut software does not mean that the rest of us have to buy their story. Also, if the estate taxes really were the issue then Rosenbloom would have been able to see this coming. He never would have said that the Rams are not for sale and that they would not be for sale in the foreseeanle future, just TWO months ago. He would have known that the estate tax thing was coming. So, I do not buy for one second that estate taxes are the reason why they have to sell the team.
They have the money. they just don't want to own the Rams and they don't care if they stay in St. Louis or not. I absolutely love the Rams. It would kill me if they left St. Louis. It is just too bad that Chip Rosenbloom can't see that he is passing up the dream. I hope he enjoys whatever money he gets from it.
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Parents lie to their kids all the time
Kid asks for something unrealistic, but not impossible, like hot dogs and ice cream for lunch in the summertime. Parent secretly likes the idea, says “We’ll see.” Later, the parent makes peanut butter and jelly and a glass of milk for the kid.
Does the kid eat the sandwich and say thank you? Or does he go into a crying tantrum, pounding his fists on the floor and calling the parent every name in the book? That depends on the kid. But the parent isn’t a liar, and the parent has done what’s necessary to take care of the kid.
Bottom line, Rosenbloom has made the right moves so far in his very short tenure to make the Rams a better, more competitive team.
- Firing Linehan weeks after his mother died, because it had to be done even if his mother wouldn’t have done it herself.
- Firing Haslett even after the sorry team “petition” to keep him, making sure the Rams had the best option available as coach.
- Retaining Devaney and giving him a clear chain of command, and ridding the nest of shitbirds like Zygmunt and his cronies.
* Giving Devaney the rein to hire “his man” as coach.
The culture of the Rams has been completely aerated and rehabilitated under Rosenbloom. I’m a little disappointed that he’s selling, because I think he’s made a pretty damn good owner so far. But I can’t be mad at him. PB&J is still pretty good.
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by taiko on Jun 3, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree..
100% with taiko here. Rosenbloom was/is a damn fine owner. A vast improvement over the total phoned- in ownership mantle Georgia the showgirl maintained for 15 years.
My biggest curiosity in him selling off the team is the fact that Rosenbloom himself was/is an aspiring/failed filmmaker, and there would be no better NFL-turned-big screen adaptation than the story of the ‘99 Rams. My brother and I often talk about the possibility of a movie version of the wosrt-to-first turfshow. If he sells the team, wouldn’t he lose the screen rights? ;)
You could even bring back Greg Kinnear as Vermeil. This movie would have to be better than the crapfest that was “Invincible”, right? Anybody else have casting ideas? Josh Brolin as Warner? Omar Epps as Marshall? Josh Lucas as Ricky Proehl!
by mooseknuckles41 on Jun 6, 2009 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'M DONE!
Welcome to my world! This is almost the exact same scenario played out in SoCal when the Rams left…the team ownership complaining about “continued financial hardship”. Unfortunately, we, the fans, are being reminded once again that the NFL is a business first and foremost. I love the RAMS but as long as they are owned by those who think about their own bottomline before the best interests of the fans and the team, I will not be attending anymore home games!
by ramswinn on Jun 3, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This shouldn't be shocking
but every owner puts the bottom line first. They have to, otherwise they lose millions. Some times, the best way to make the most money is to increase fan relations, sure, but those are top-tier organizational decisions they have to make to protect their most valuable interest which is, in the end, the overall value of the franchise.
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by 3k on Jun 3, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What can you expect when hundreds of millions are on the line?
What can you expect from someone who has hundreds of millions on the line? Do you think the news articles or anything other than propaganda for someone who knows for sure they are only a short timer and have no loyalty to anything or anyone except their bank account?
I’ll be honest, if I thought Iwas going to sell my interest in an organization of this size, I’d do the same thing. I’d make a hundred million more dollars just by telling a couple of lies to the local paper. I’d try to create a market, drum up demand and strengthen my negotiating position.
This is business. He’s not a fan, he’s an owner who wants out. Interpret his words accordingly.
Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.
by CoachConnors on Jun 3, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Very common event to have to sell asssts for Estate reasons
Actually this exact situation is what a guy like Warren Buffet makes his living off. Estate sales, forced liquidation, need cash to pay taxes. If I am Chip Rosenbllom, why would Iimit my buyer to just St Louis area, if I do they have all the cards and I won’t get my price. Relax its all part of the game in business, anything to get the upper hand and have the leverage. I would expect alot more posturing and back in forth in the media, it is just part of the process, Sellers want the highest price and Buyers want the lowest, then the games begin. Stick to Football news this stuff is mostly smoke screens
by Ramfanforever on Jun 4, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, rich people make money by buying things from sales. There is not a shred of doubt in my mind that the money is there to keep the Rams and pay the taxes, for the reasons that I stated in the original post.
1. Shaw is a lawyer.
2. Georgia had a lot of money
3. Chip’s business was successful.
4. Rosenbloom at best was equivocal when talking about St. Louis ownership of the Rams, which shows that he has a history of lying.
Remember the great 2004 and 2005 Rams teams...
by Marmie is the best on Jun 5, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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