Michael Vick to the Rams rumors surface again
Truth is such a malleable thing, hence "truthiness." Anyway, the natural extension of that thought goes directly into the evolution of a rumor, and the Rams are still in the middle of a doozy of an offseason rumor...you know, the one that has the team hot on the trail of recently released, from jail and the Falcons, QB Michael Vick.
It's back again today, hot on the heels of the news that the Falcons released Vick. This was posted in the Vick news tidbit at Rotoworld today:
The Rams, whose GM Bill Devaney used to work in the Atlanta organization, are expected to be among Vick's most ardent suitors.
No, they're not among Vick's most ardent suitors. That rumor, which started with Michael Lombardi from the National Football Post, has been thoroughly debunked again and again. You'll notice the Rotoworld tidbit doesn't source anything or anyone? Pundits dogged Seattle coach Jim Mora for weeks, even after he denied it, about Vick coming to the Seahawks just because of their one-time connection. The Rams don't have room on the roster for another QB, much less one that wouldn't be good fit for the West Coast offense. Interstingly enough, there are a number of fans who did vote in this poll that they would like to see the Rams take a chance on Vick. I ask this with an open mind, why would you like to see the Rams take a chance on Vick (or why not)?
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Vick
I wouldn’t mind a flyer on him for a low price – but not to be a QB – if he is at all what he was, he could be an interesting multi threat to get the ball to in multiple ways – But I have little interest in him as an exclusive qb
by fltfire on Jun 12, 2009 11:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vick to the Rams
I say HELL NO! Didn’t they learn anything from Lawrence Phillips? The Rams dont need him, he isn’t a great Q.B. and a worse citizen. He is a thug, a convict and doesn’t deserve another shot in the N.F.L.
Its time to clean up the NFL and say NO to criminals in the NFL!
by California Mobile CPR on Jun 12, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW
so people that payed their debt to society dont deserve a second chance? thats messed up, people make mistakes, and the general consensus around Vick is he has changed so why not take the chance Phillips just kept messing up, never wanted to change, are you going to say the same about Leonard Little?
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
its not about being a great QB is was a good QB and was getting better, and honestly would bring something to St Louis that hasnt been there in a while a good shot at the playoffs
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not the same thing
You are talking about apples and oranges,Leonard Little got in a car accident Mike Vick was executing dogs I think there is a difference here,and since they are paid millions and are expected to be road models it will not be so easy for Vick to get a free pass on this,and quite frankly I don’t buy your general consensus of Vick having changed,that’s a crock of shit,he showed that he is a thug that was getting paid millions and still could not stay away from this blood thirsty sport of dog fighting,and worst of all his partaking in dog killing
Vick is a scum bag peace of shit and a year in jail did not change that
by james535 on Jun 13, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
COULDNT BE
anyworse after a 2 win season
Pujols takes out "I" in BIG and "A" in MAC, previously considered to be an unyielding, consonant threat
by DESTROYER on Jun 12, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Torn...
Because I wouldn’t atually mind them bringing him in – but not as a QB (except for the rare gimmicky or change of pace play). Bottom line is that IF he is healthy and in shape, he is still a phenom athlete capable of helping a team that won only two games last year.
I can’t support him coming in exclusively as a QB though. Now I am in the anti Bulger camp, and I don’t feel we have our QB of the (near) future on our roster right now but Vick is not the answer either. Didn’t he already fail as a WCO QB in Atl (from a QB statistical point of view). IMO, he can be counted on to win a couple game a year with his legs – but that does not give you a SB caliber team in the making either.
Long way to a short answer – Yes, but not as QB. He is athletic and brings another dimension that defenses would have to watch for with him on the field (especially with a young inexperienced receiving core).
Free Brandon Wood!
by gorams77 on Jun 12, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm definitely in the "no" category
I don’t see why we have to be so desperate. It’s something we talked about last night on Turf Show Radio; the only teams who should be interested in these kinds of reclamation projects are teams who feel that the player gives them a significant upgrade, and that that upgrade immediately vaults them into the next tier of teams, either from non-playoff to playoff contender or from weak playoff contender to title contender.
Vick isn’t a significant upgrade at QB, IMO, and more importantly, he’s a completely different type from Bulger or Boller. Our system would have to immediately change to usher in Vick’s advantages as a quarterback.
And I love the way certain people write things so that they don’t have to defend them:
The Rams, whose GM Bill Devaney used to work in the Atlanta organization, are expected to be among Vick’s most ardent suitors.
Why are we expected to be among his suitors? And by whom? And what is with this tenuous bullshit link theme that people are proffering nowadays? Yeah, Devaney used to work for the Falcons. So the hell what?
In honor of this crap, I will tell you the three main reasons Michael Vick will be a Ram:
1.) New head coach Steve Spagnuolo once owned a dog.
2.) James Laurinaitis thought about attending Virginia Tech.
3.) Jay Zygmunt, the recently ousted GM of the Rams, was a dick, and dick rhymes with Vick.
Your uncle molests collies.
by 3k on Jun 12, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From a player only
standpoint, I wouldn’t want him as our starting QB. I’d love to have him running the wildcat for us though.
I don’t have an opinion as far as whether he’s a bad person. I don’t really know that much about what happened. I know he at least bank rolled a dog fighting ring. I don’t think that’s okay, by any means (I’m love dogs), but I don’t know how extensive his involvement was or what he actually did besides supply the money. If I knew more, maybe I’d be more against him. He did go to prison for it, so it could be argued that he’s paid his debt to society in that way. I don’t know what’s right.
by Toddius on Jun 12, 2009 2:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Could you imagine what you could do with him...
lined up as a WR? with bulger taking the snap, and avery and vick bunched together? Of course with Jax in the backfield
by PCarn on Jun 12, 2009 2:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Rams are trying
to build a team that sticks together and stays with the system. We don’t need to be bringing in a guy who freelances all over the field and doesn’t follow the system. That was his style the entire time he played for Atlanta and I don’t see why it would be different now. How can you make everyone else follow the system if one guy is allowed to ignore it?
As to his having paid his debt to society, all that does is put him back on the same footing as anyone else. It doesn’t immediately give him anything special or any reason for anyone to take a chance on him. When someone gets out of jail they don’t get to immediately resume their former life as if nothing happened. Something bad did happen and that, plus everything he did on the field for Atlanta, has to be considered when thinking about hiring him. There is a real chance he will do something else stupid down the line, just like Pacman and others. Not all of them do, but enough you have to consider it.
by andyrose on Jun 12, 2009 2:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ludicrous..
Which of the 4 pillars does Michael Vick represent? None of them? Thanks.
Possible destinations for Vick: Miami, San Fran, Seattle
by mooseknuckles41 on Jun 12, 2009 3:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why no Dallas or Oakland on there?
You don’t think Al Davis and Jerry Jones would be willing to bring him in as a backup?
Your uncle molests collies.
by 3k on Jun 12, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i get the feeling..
that JJones learned his lesson with the Pacman, Tank, TO, HBO fiasco. As for Al “Cryptkeeper” Davis? I guess you could add the Raiders to that list. Nothing he does suprises me anymore. I fully expect him to hire the winner of ESPN’s crappy MaddenNation contest as head coach next year.
by mooseknuckles41 on Jun 13, 2009 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
VICK
Come on guys, How good were the Falcons when they had Vick, anybody remember a trounce in 2003(I believe) in the GA dome? Lets face it Vick on the Falcons was amazingly sick and he made Warrick Dunn (a mediocre back) put up hall of fame numbers when Dunn touched the ball. After the fall of Vick the Falcons turned to shit; Warrick Dunn and Crumpler both fell off, hell we even got one of our three wins against them in 2007. Everyone wants to talk about how bad Vick was at qb but he didnt become the highest paid player for blowing. Plus he ran a west coast offense back in Atlanta. Vick served his time for the dogfighting, etc… for crying out loud that man owes more in debt than most people will see in a lifetime. He’d be a cheap pick up, better QB (I have alot of love for Bulger) and make SJ sick. filthy. ridiculous. Just think of Mike Vick running around making plays (guys hope you know our offense line is still rebuilding, nowhere near the greatest show on turf days, we need a mobile qb with its current state) pulling defenders off receivers, letting vick hit an open donnie avery, sean walker combo( they can’t double cover with vick on the field) and then when the defense is set to finally shut down vick let our boy SJ hit the hole for amazing yardage. I have no doubt that SJ is tenfold better than Dunn, plus Vick taking some of the load off by running keeps our beast of a back healthy. I say we’d win at least 9 games with vick in his first year back; with no number one receiver and a growing offensive line, I say that this is the place for Mike to go. If not us then he’ll land on the Raiders (Davis will take anyone for crying out loud, he’s fast enough said) or Vikings( obviously unhappy with jackson and rosenfels).
by sj39 on Jun 12, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
no way
him and spags wouldn’t get along.
unless we need a waterboy.
"Score some damn runs, or the baby pandas die"
by sergey606 on Jun 12, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oh, so...
would be a great promotion for a team. if/when vick rejoins NFL, when they have an away game, the home team should have a “dog appreciation” day, or a “bring your dog to the stadium” day (though this one’s harder to accomplish. But the dog app. day would be easier, just give out some t-shirts, with a cute puppy on it.
I’m trademarking this idea, cause it’s gonna be huge. you guys have my back, right?
"Score some damn runs, or the baby pandas die"
by sergey606 on Jun 12, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Texas Rangers already have a bring your dog to the stadium day
How they deal with the poop logistics, I have no idea. But if I was there, I’d bring my dog, Hondo:
Your uncle molests collies.
by 3k on Jun 12, 2009 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome dog
yeah, the poop thing would be bad. that’s why they should have a dog appreciation day
"Score some damn runs, or the baby pandas die"
by sergey606 on Jun 12, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I miss him
My mom stole him when I moved to Germany and refuses to give him back because he keeps her dumbass dogs in line….
Your uncle molests collies.
by 3k on Jun 12, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He could work well
Think about it. Our O-line isnt the greatest, we have no great primary receiver, and we have no good backup RB. With Vick, we could have a better chance when theres missed blocks or blitzes. he can run when no ones open (which will happen alot). Also he can instead of SJax. He could be one of the best player since Steven. Just bench him when he doesnt follow the system
by DekaJ on Jun 12, 2009 8:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NO
We don’t need a guy like Vick on our team. He’s been out of football for two years, but more importantly, he’s been in prison and killed dogs. No thanks.
Welcome to Baseball Heaven.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 12, 2009 9:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
oohhh killed dogs
If I remember correctly Ray Lewis wasn’t so innocent and he is still playing football. Anyone remember Leonard Little and his issues, he’s still playing for the Rams. There is no way that a dogs life is more important than a humans period. I’m not saying Vick did nothing wrong but look at the big picture. If the commissioner will let players that beat their wives, throw gf’s down stairs over facebook, or kill humans in a drunk driving accident then vick should have no problem playing in the NFL again
by sj39 on Jun 12, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
how do you..
“throw your gf down stairs over facebook”? If i knew that was a possibility I would have signed up a long time ago. Can you “smack your skank up” on Twitter?
by mooseknuckles41 on Jun 13, 2009 2:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Naw
I’m talking about that offensive line man for atl that fought with his gf about facebook and tossed her down the stairs in anger. Funny twitter comment tho. Oh and little was drunk when his accident happened, so that was willing in my book.
by sj39 on Jun 13, 2009 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
mooseknuckles41
that comment has me rolling everytime i read it.
by sj39 on Jun 13, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Vick to Rams
I think if Vick goes to the Rams(which he probably won’t) he could play a few positions kind of like Kordell Stewart did when he was on the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Jonathan Rogers......
by ramsquarterback28 on Jun 14, 2009 5:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's not a human Michael Vick killed. lol
Just so you know.. Michael Vick was executing dogs who people consider one of the most dangerous breeds of dog. People say pitbulls are a danger to society. Yet Michael Vick wasn’t executing them, but he was basically supporting it and paying for the shit. Yeah I’m not saying what he did was a good thing. It was pretty bad. My family runs a animal shelter thing to make money and donate it to people who adopt pets. The St. Louis Rams have already had history with leaving people on the roster who are involved in murder. But yet he’s accepted on The Ram’s roster. I don’t see any protesters for that. But if we where to sign Vick, we’d see protesters outside everyday in downtown St. Louis. So my question is this. Are we really going to put Vick down over animals? I think human are a lot more important than dogs. Sorry.. lmao. So let’s all just continue to put this guy down. Hell he didn’t just spend a little amount of time in the pin. He also lost 50 million dallors and filed for bankruptsy. So anyone saying he hasn’t payed his dept to society, thats bullshit. If any of you had 50 million to lose maybe your ignorant self would understand. So why not a St. Louis Ram? Marc Bulger should get another chance at QB this year with a new line. But if he continues to blow, Boller is not our future either. So sign Michael Vick as like a utility guy until then. Give him some time to work with the system. Michael Vick, Steven Jackson, Avery, McMichael. That’s a good threat right there.
by Xmisto on Jun 14, 2009 3:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Amen
Bruh thats what I’ve been saying this whole time. Teams would have killed to get mike vick before his conviction, this could be the biggest addition for years to come. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VQY4kwhmtg&feature=PlayList&p=5FFF92BD516A8AE9&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=27
Enough said
by sj39 on Jun 14, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the Rams sign Vick,
my PSL and season tickets will be up for sale. He is a thug, and he is not a team player. That’s the bottom line. If you can’t understand that, then there isn’t much more to say.
by andyrose on Jun 14, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I can see that
But thats what people thought of randy moss too. And look at him on the pats
by sj39 on Jun 14, 2009 7:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Really andyrose? wow..
So your saying if the Rams happen to sign Vick your going to sell your season tickets? I doubt you will give up your tickets over The Rams signing someone who made a mistake. And if you do.. That’s pretty sad man. I think your ate up like most people when an athlete fucks up. You would probably rather have OJ sign with The Rams. lol
by Xmisto on Jun 15, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes ! We need a decent back up qb .He made a mistake and served his time. I think we were tortured more then the dogs after the last two seasons. Take a chance , bench him if he does not follow the rules and let him play while Bulgers laying down with one of his many concussions.
by ramsmom on Jun 17, 2009 12:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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