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No experience, no problem: Can the Rams passing game succeed this year?

The Rams relative lack of experience at wide receiver and the seeming lack of a true #1-type has lots of fans and observers concerned. It's hard to deny the glaring weakness this presents when you look at it on paper. In a piece on the PD's website today, KMOX's Kevin Wheeler, when asked about Bulger's chances for success this season, said something that caught my eye...or ear, whatever.

One of Steve Spagnuolo’s former teams, the Eagles, went on a 46-18 run from 2000-2003 and did so without any impact receivers on the roster. In those four seasons only two wide receivers caught 60 or more passes (James Thrash had 63 in 2000; Todd Pinkston had 60 in ’02) yet they got it done because they ran the ball, they threw it to the running backs a ton and because Donovan McNabb threw twice as many touchdowns as interceptions during those years.

I knew there had to be a more recent example, so I started combing the 2008 stat sheets and found a reasonable parallel.

The dramatic turnaround of the Miami Dolphins, from a one game winner to AFC East champs, is a frequent topic of conversation among Rams fans. A turnaround of that magnitude for the Rams seems unrealistic, but there might be something in their offensive success that offers some nugget of hope. Take a look at their three leading receivers:

Player Experience Receptions Yards TDs
Tedd Ginn Jr. 2 56 790 2
Greg Camarillo 3 55 613 2
Devone Bess 1 54 554 1

 

Ginn, a smaller player who profiles similar to Donnie Avery (i.e. speed), was a 2007 first round pick who caught just 34 passes in his rookie season. Camarillo, an undrafted player, had just 8 catches with the Dolphins the season before, and Bess was another undrafted rookie with no NFL experience. Obviously, there were other factors at play with the Dolphins: 1) new blood on the o-line, including Jake Long and new guards in Justin Smiley and Ikechuku Ndukwe, 2) a rejuvenated QB in Pennington, and a successful running game featuring Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams (I'm lumping the wild cat into that last item).They also good play from their starting TE, Anthony Fasano, who caught 34 passes and scored 7 TDs, the most receiving TDs on the team.

They had the 10th most passing yards per game with 227 and the 10th most total passing yards. According to Football Outsiders DVOA measure, their passing offense had a 29% DVOA, fifth best among all teams. And with a relatively unknown and/or unproven group of receivers they still attempted about 40 more passes than rushes.

I'm not trying to suggest that these are the tea leaves pointing toward the Rams getting back into the double digit win column, not at all. However, it's tough to ignore some of the similarities. Like the Dolphins, the Rams have made significant upgrades to the offensive line, and the blocking in general, with the additions of Jason Smith, Jason Brown, FB Mike Kareny and TE Billy Bajema. A healthy Randy McMichael should give the Rams another receiving weapon and a player who can open up the field with seam routes and other lost pages in the playbook. Whether or not Bulger can turn his game around remains to be seen, but at the very least he shouldn't have to worry about getting sacked as often. Avery can play, but some of the other WRs will have to emerge as weapons this year too. That means getting in sync with Bulger and learning the offense. Finally, the wild cat may be over as a fad, but we do have a RB who's caught 90 passes in a season (2006) and is capable of being a real threat in the passing game.

Like a watch, there are plenty of other parts that have to work together and there may not be anyone that really jumps off the page when you look back on the passing offense for 2009, but the parts are there for some success as long as you keep a firm handle on reality.

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An interesting comparison

It is interesting to look at teams that win despite not having large “#1” recievers, i.e. Philly, San Diego, and Miami. I think the key to each of those teams were that they have that moneyback in the backfield that determines the pace of the game on offense and defense. It may be a stretch to call Ronnie Brown a moneyback, but the way he played against New England and at other points last year, it really isn’t that bad of a comparison.

Hopefully, a healthy Jackson, and a dramatically improved Offensive Line will help the Rams make themselves a decent team that others will look to on their schedules as a challenge and maybe even as a team that will pose problems.

by kickasskeever on May 4, 2009 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Good points...

a lot of effort has been made to improve the Ram’s O-Line. If the two Jason’s are as good as we hope, then the question marks shift to Barron, Bell and Incognito. Can Incognito be restrained from having temper tantrums? Will Barron ease up on the false starts and play hard since this year is the last one on his contract? Can we get our money’s worth out of Bell, who was supposed to be an upgrade last year? If there’s an injury can Setterstrom fill in adequately? I sure hope so. One thing’s for sure, old age is not a factor with the O-Line. Maybe coupled with Karney and Bajema they can all give an immobile Marc Bulger time find McMichael across the middle, Jackson out of the backfield and Avery downfield. Again, I hope so. Plus, if Jax will come to camp this year and get conditioned so he won’t get hurt as easily, he should have a lot of blocking support. We also have Josh Brown who can get us 3 points about everytime our offense gets inside the opponents 40 yard line. Yessir, the Ram’s offense should score a lot more points this year assuming Bulger’s not completely done. I still have grave concerns about our Defense though – especially the D-Line. Little was great in his day, but he’s too old to have much impact at DE now. Carriker has been subpar at Tackle his first two years. Many fans have high hopes Chris Long will have a breakout year, but he’s still on the smallish side for a DE. Pisa and Tye Hill are two other weak spots in the “D”.
And, as good as they’re supposed to be; Bartell, Butler and Atogwe will have big trouble if the D-Line can’t put consistent pressure on opposing QB’s. Maybe Witherspoon and Laraunitis can stop short some of those all too frequent 40 yard dashes that begin with huge holes in our D-Line…..

by edpjr on May 4, 2009 8:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Long has perfect typical size for DE

Little was a LB converted to DE, C.Long is a pure DE with the size and speed to be a dominent DE in the
NFL, Long came in as a rookie at 285 lbs,not a tweeker

by james535 on May 5, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where do people keep coming up with this mythical extra 20+ lbs for Long?

Check out the NFL or the Ram’s official websites. Chris Long is listed at 263 lbs. That’s what he weighs. Accept and get over it. And so what if Leonard Little weighs 260 and was a converted LB? Not everyone plays the same calibre ball. Leonard was great once, but now he’s a liability on the D-Line. Nuff said! If we only had the $$$ to replace him with the disgrunted Julius Peppers….. who wants out of Charlotte.

by edpjr on May 5, 2009 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Long is to small?

Little who is great is the same size as long, m. strahan who played for the giants is two inches taller but weighs less than long and they both dominated. This is jus longs 2nd year was everybody expecting him to have hall of fame numbers in his rookie year

by RAMS WE DA BEST on May 4, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

This is what I've been trying to say for a while now

and didn’t have the stats to back it up.

Our receivers are okay. But when you combine them with Randy McMichael and Steven Jackson, they all of a sudden become much better since those two guys could very realistically be the 1-2 guys in receptions.

Then, if you just added another great receiving RB…..someone who is durable and awesome and is absolutely happy playing the second fiddle……..someone who’s initials are W.D.???

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 4, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

I just realized who you meant by W.D., don’t you think he’s kind of old? I mean I’ve loved the guy since I had a shiny rookie card of him, but we have alot of players signed already ,no?

by heinzketchup on May 5, 2009 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

No.

Well, he’s old, but he’s not too old and he’s not over the hill. Just check his stats here and tell me you wouldn’t want him in the backfield. Plus, you could sign him for 2 or 3 million dollars.

Taiko did a little leg work about a week and a half ago and compared Dunn to Edgerrin James. Here’s what he found.

FWIW, I’m going to keep banging this drum until he signs somewhere.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 5, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Warrick Dunn is too old now to be of any use to us.....

And I never really liked the guy cause he seemed to play extra good against the Rams. Especially when he was at TB. His running effort led the Bucs to a 38-35 victory over STL in 2000 that ultimately kept us from winning the NFC West. I’m also into the Ram’s youth movement. We moved out a lot of old deadwood and still have more to go. But, we can’t fix everything in one offseason. Next year, I figure we punt Bulger and Little.

by edpjr on May 5, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, age is the determining factor.

The fact that he’s cheap, a great teammate, and saved Tampa Bay’s collective ass last year showing virtually no signs of slowing down has no bearing on him being an asset……plus you hold some stupid grudge against him from 9 years ago.

But he’s 34.

He’s better and cheaper than the guys 6 years younger than him who are available and would probably require no more than a 2 year contract which is a joke and wouldn’t hold the team back in any way.

But. He’s 34…

Look, you’re the guy who has been complaining that Jackson is worthless and always injured and feel the team needs a backup running back. Do you have a better idea?

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 5, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know Tackle Man...

…you have a knack for being obnoxious and disrespectful to about every commenter on TST. Aside from the cliches and putdowns, do you ever provide any useful info or facts?
First of all, “I’m not the guy who has been complaining that Jackson is worthless..” I think Jax has great talent, size and speed, but he has been occasionally lackadaiscal and oft injured (facts). His contract holdout didn’t help the Rams last year. Next, if you want an aging running back, Edgerrin James, fresh off a Super Bowl appearance, is available. I don’t understand this man-crush thing on Warrick Dunn. If I recall, Cadillac Williams is the number one RB in Tampa. And, the Bucs flopped badly down the stretch. Didn’t they lose the last game of the season at home to Oakland to drop out of the playoff picture? How’d Dunn do in that game?? And, does he improve with age, unlike 99% of other RB’s (I suppose Marcus Allen was the exception)? I’ll take my chances with Darby and our great draft choice Obog..whatever. And I think I’d dump Leonard and Pittman.

by edpjr on May 6, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not "obnoxious and disrespectful to about every commentor".

Just you.

(and james a little bit but he’s fun and is a good sport about it)

do you ever provide any useful info or facts?

Nope, I try not to..

But I do like how you pointed out that Tampa collapsed at the end of the season, which was right around the time they started handing the ball to Cadillac (you know he didn’t play until Week 12, right?)

And as far as Edge, are you serious? Dunn ran (and mostly caught which is the whole point of this as far as I’m concerned) circles around him last year. Here….again.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 6, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know how I'm going to make it Tackle....

considering all the sleep I’m gonna lose worrying about your smart a** responses. Face it. Dunn is done. The Rams don’t want him and I doubt anyone else does either. If he was as great as you say last year, and so cheap, why doesn’t TB want him back…? Duh! And, yes I’d take Edge over Dunn anytime. TaTa

by edpjr on May 7, 2009 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Laurent Robinson

I am going to talk about Laurent Robinson every time someone brings up WRs. Yes, I like the fact that we got him for an exchange of 6th(?) round picks.

by heinzketchup on May 5, 2009 2:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Exchange of 5th and 6th rounders

(…but who’s counting, right?)

Btw, I’m on board with you in regards to Robinson.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 5, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

i agree

he was a good get for us

by james535 on May 5, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Robinson was a deal, so was...

Kyle Boller, who may be our starting QB by mid-season.

by edpjr on May 5, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You don't want that

I’m not a Bulger fan by any means. But Boller is a pretty significant step down in quality, and if anything, is more fragile than Bulger, too. Better than Trent Green, yes. But not our best chance to win.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on May 6, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

better than Trent Green....

…Brock Berlin, and Gus Frerotte for sure, and maybe even Marc Bulger and Keith Null. Boller played pretty decent ball with the Ravens for a few years and he’s still young enough to maybe get his mojo back. I sure hope Bulger can have a Kurt Warner type recovery this year, but it remains to be seen if that’s possible. Bulger got sacked alot and hurt due, in part, to the very poor performance of the O-Line the last two years. However, Bulger can’t scramble and is virtually immobile too. I saw him throw several critical INT’s off his rear foot last season due to perceived, rather than actual, pass pressure. He also tends to fumble excessively from any contact. I doubt Bulger, aged 32, will play to 38 or 39 like Warner or Favre.

by edpjr on May 6, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Excessively?
He also tends to fumble excessively from any contact.

Considering he’s been sacked more than any other Quarterback in the last 3 seasons, let’s compare him to the QBs you are lauding.

Career:

Total Fumbles (lost and retained):

Bulger – 36 in 7 seasons (5.14/season) or 87 games (.41/game)
Warner – 91 in 10 seasons (9.10/season) or 110 games (.83/game)
Favre – 157 in 17 seasons (9.23/season) or 273 games (.57/game)
Boller – 36 in 5 seasons (7.20/season) or 53 games (.68/game)

2008 season Total Fumbles:

Bulger – 5 in 15 games (.33/game)
Warner – 11 in 16 games (.69/game)
Favre – 10 in 16 games (.62/game)
Boller – 5 in 12 games (.42/game)

Fumbles in each season:

Bulger – 2, 8, 5, 4, 6, 6, 5
Warner – 9, 4, 10, 8, 6, 12, 9, 10, 12, 11
Favre – 12, 14, 7, 8, 11, 7, 8, 9, 9, 16, 10, 5, 4, 10, 8, 9, 10
Boller – 9, 11, 8, 3, 5

Marc Bulger is actually pretty good at holding on to the ball especially considering the amount of times he’s been sacked. He’s only fumbled 11 times in the past 2 seasons which is the same amount as Warner and one less than Favre in 2008 alone.

And here’s a few more names from 2008:

Matt Cassel – 7 fumbles in 16 games
Eli Manning – 5 fumbles in 16 games
Jay Cutler – 5 fumbles in 16 games
Matt Ryan – 6 fumbles in 16 games
Joe Flacco – 11 fumbles in 16 games
Jake Delhomme – 5 fumbles in 16 games
Kyle Orton – 5 fumbles in 15 games
Ryan Fitzpatrick – 11 fumbles in 13 games
Derek Anderson – 9 fumbles in 10 games
Tony Romo – 13 fumbles in 13 games
Aaron Rodgers – 10 fumbles in 16 games
Philip Rivers – 8 fumbles in 16 games
Drew Brees – 6 fumbles in 16 games
Donovan McNabb – 7 fumbles in 16 games
Ben Roethlisberger – 14 fumbles in 16 games
Kerry Collins – 5 fumbles in 16 games
Jason Campbell – 7 fumbles in 16 games

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 6, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait a second, isn't this "useful information"?

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on May 7, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

listen you dummy

that is only because your boy Bulger ducks lmao so he dont get hit as much or as hard as the others that stay in the pocket to complete the pass, so think before you open that big horce mouth of yours

by james535 on May 7, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bulger see the rush and ducks like a chiken

when Jim Everet was done he did the same thing ,just duck lol and you know what time it is what that happens dont you ? its ( See you ) time but i know his your boy Tackle Box lol its ok i know you just trying say he dont fumble much but he dont complete many passes ducking ether

by james535 on May 7, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dang at the useful facts (or trivia)! I think I started something here....

First, what’s your reference for Bulger being sacked more than ANY other QB in the last 3 years? Next, I think James nailed it. Bulger has got Jim Everetitis. I remember Everett falling to the turf at times with no potential tackler anywhere near him. Maybe it just seemed to me that Bulger fumbled a lot because he went down so much instead of moving out of the pocket, plus he threw a lot of INT’s off his rear foot. As far as a comparison to Favre and Warner that counts, how ‘bout this one? They’ve been to five Super Bowls and each has a ring. Bulger has been to zero SB’s and only 2 playoff games where he’s 1-1. And, Bulger had Faulk, Bruce, Curtis, Holt, Pace, etc. for several years and still couldn’t do dick. But, by some miracle, I hope he plays this year like Johnny Unitas in his prime.

by edpjr on May 7, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is it really that fun to be a troll?

It’s obvious you have to agendas. First, to ignore any form of statistical information and just say things flippantly to pass them off as fact. Second, to take a stance on anything that will remotely ruffle any feathers or be against the common belief.

So, Bulger has “Jim Everett-itis”. I guess that means he has happy feet and is gun shy in the pocket. Is that supposed to be new information? Or are you just going to repeat it ad nauseum like when you incessantly blather on about how great the 49ers and Seahwawks are?

Either way, it’s tiresome and you’re boring. There’s not one thing you’ve ever said that is new, intuitive, or beneficial. But, you find it fulfilling in some way to be “that guy”. The one who “sets those apologists and blinder-wearing idiots straight”.

Congratulations. That’s a great role to have.

So, consider this my last response to you. If you can’t recognize statistics and fact then there really is no point in acknowledging you anymore.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 7, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks in advance for no more super-critical obnoxious responses!

Time will tell who’s predictions are most accurate. But, I win either way. I truly want the Rams to succeed and capture another SB. Just like I have for the last 40+ years. But, if they do poorly this season and the rest of the NFC West thrives, I’ll still have the satisfaction of knowing my analysis of 2009 was on the mark. Also, at least somebody in the Rams management agrees with me on a few things. I was preaching months ago that we needed to get rid of Chavous, Holt, Pace, Leckey, Green, Looker, Becht, Fahkir, Bennett, Hall, Glover, etc. and darn if they aren’t all gone. And I heard today that Tye Hill, Klop, Leonard, Pittman (who I also recommended cutting) and even more deadwood are likely on their way out too. The Rams did keep Leonard Little though, and that’s probably a mistake.

by edpjr on May 7, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Turkish Delight

This is your coment (It’s obvious you have to agendas. First, to ignore any form of statistical information and just say things flippantly to pass them off as fact. Second, to take a stance on anything that will remotely ruffle any feathers or be against the common belief.) First of all this describes you to a T,so thank you for describing your self to every one ,Second no one said that stats were not important or not accepted,simply stated that there is a reason for the fumbles comparison that you are making,Third if you cant just explain to some one with out putting them down then you should just not reply at all,and final point i want to make to you is cool that shit cause you don’t impress any one

by james535 on May 8, 2009 6:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not trying to impress anyone james.

But when someone makes a statement that Bulger “tends to fumble excessively from any contact” that is not only false but blatantly talking out of your ass. So, I refuted it with more than enough information that not only proves it wrong, but shows that he fumbles no more or less than all of the top quarterbacks in the league not named Peyton Manning.

But that information was completely ignored since there was absolutely no way to refute it. Instead the information was called “triviia” and you called me a “dummy”. Why should I even attempt to have discourse with two people who are so blatantly trying to stir up shit?

And where exactly have I been saying things that completely ignore statistics and are solely designed to disagree with the TST community? I beg you to show me examples.

And furthermore, it’s obvious I was wrong in my initial impression of you. Heck, I hadn’t even ever seen you respond to anyone until right now so I had no idea you and you’re buddy fell in to the same category. Neither of you like me and you know you could get under my skin by posting ridiculous bullshit. Well, that’s fine. Keep up the childish act. You’ve both worn thin on many people here and I took a stance against it since I’d prefer this place hold some sort of relevance. But unfortunately you and you’re buddy can only prove your worth if you’re bitching about anything and everything.

I get it. It’s your persona. Your identity. You go on a Rams blog and set everyone straight and if they disagree with you, you turn to name-calling and then you both brag about how old you are and how long you’ve both been Rams fans yet the two of you both act like 5 year-olds. Great. Have fun in your sad world james.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on May 8, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bell rings, fighters to their corners

TB, you proved your point that Bulger doesn’t fumble more often than other QBs. In fact, one of his strengths is generally being conservative with the ball, being willing to take a sack rather than lose a turnover. However, you didn’t address the larger argument in this thread, which is whether Bulger will be able to outperform the other QBs on the roster.

Ed & James are pretty much right on the money comparing last year’s Bulger to Everett — his pocket presence was so poor it was laughable. However, he did play better (not great, but better) when he developed more confidence in his line in the last four games of the year. And, when he had a fully healthy SJ in the lineup.

Boller has had a sprinkling of decent games in his resume. But he has also failed to outplay one of the worst all-time collections of quarterbacks ever assembled. He doesn’t have the track record of success that Bulger (pre 2007) does.

Bottom line: A resurgent Bulger is our best option to win this year. However, I accept that if Bulger plays like he did last year, he doesn’t deserve to start, and we may see Boller in a lot of games. However, I don’t think that’s a good thing.

As an appendix: All you meatheads need thicker skin. It’s only the farking internet.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on May 8, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Once again...

Nobody divides Rams fans more than Bulger….

We need a pitcher...not a DL itcher!

by gorams77 on May 8, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right on!

Any criticism, real or imagined, of Marc Bulger seems to get 50% of the TST contributors fighting mad. The Ram’s history of QB switches is frustrating. As an old times Ram fan, I can remember being po’d when Roman Gabriel was replaced by John Hadl in 1973. But we went from 6-7-1 to 12-2 in one year. Also, Vince Ferragamo helped get us to our 1st Super Bowl in 1980, but we dumped him to get back Pat Haden and later has-beens like Dan Pastorini and Bert Jones. Then we brought Ferragamo back in ‘83 and went to the playoffs. After suffering with Jeff Kemp and Deiter Brock, we got Jim Everett who displayed excellent skills for awhile before he developed a mortal fear of being sacked. And then there’s the Kurt Warner being dumped for Bulger fiasco. Some of us just can’t quite get over that one…. sorry.

by edpjr on May 8, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

na i dont think so lol

Warner was hurt when he did not play well ,he never lost his balls lol so when his injury healed he playd well again , with Bulger his got no balls he was never realy injured just his pride on his back every down so he said fuck it i got my money in the bank ill just duck from now on lol ha ha ha

by james535 on May 7, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Kurt Warner was right

and playing with a decent team, he was better than Bulger has ever been. Still, he is immobile, fumbles the ball a lot when sacked, and throws critical interceptions (last play of the first half of the Super Bowl, for instance). Since Bulger doesn’t show the upside that Warner has, the problems are magnified. But he really doesn’t fumble any more than Warner and he isn’t any more immobile than Kurt. What he mostly lacks is the leadership that Warner provides and the incredible hot streaks Kurt has.

by andyrose on May 6, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Kurt Warner is not on our roster.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on May 7, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's what fantasy football is for ;)

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on May 8, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't make sense

If Kurt Warner were on this team we would still have been a horrid team. In New York, he was completely ineffective with ok recievers like Amani Toomer. It took having the best WR in the league in Larry Fitzgerald to cover for his poor decision making when he decides to cram the ball into coverage.

Here he wouldn’t have that. At no point is anyone on our roster anything like Larry Fitzgerald, and he would just be as effective as he was in New York when he got benched.

Bulger is the QB we have. With a decent year we can be competitive and help bring the fans back to the Dome, and then next year we can get that great WR that will make the team complete, and also look into picking up a QB of the future!

by kickasskeever on May 7, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions  

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