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Rams For Sale...This is no Joke!

Read for yourself, This just in this morning's Post-Dispatch:

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/rams

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/columnists.nsf/berniemiklasz/story/E76D1319278A6843862575C70010D605?OpenDocument

In Bernie Miklasz's column this morning Bernie, and I quote:

After inheriting control of the Rams in early 2008 from their late mother, Georgia Frontiere, Rosenbloom and Rodriguez have concentrated on reorganizing the football operation. And they've had to deal with complex estate-tax issues in the aftermath of their mother's death.

With substantial progress made in those areas, the timetable for a sale has moved up.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the situation told the Post-Dispatch on Saturday that Rosenbloom and Rodriguez have retained the services of Goldman Sachs, the prominent investment banking firm.

The owners will ask Goldman Sachs to help facilitate the sale of the Rams by evaluating bids and soliciting potential buyers.

The sale price is unknown, but Forbes magazine's most recent estimate listed the Rams' value at $929 million.

Can't say that I'm flabbergasted, but Oh, Wow!  The horns could be leaving St. Louis!

I hate to be the bearer of ill tidings but this is not good, not good.

Go Rams!

[Note by VanRam, 05/31/09 9:59 AM EDT ] Remember, the Rams are contractually obligated to remain in St. Louis through 2015, when they reach an out clause in their lease with the Ed Jones Dome. Could they move after that? It's very possible, but much will depend on who the buyer is. You have to remember too, that the economy is terrible, and coming up with roughly $600 million to buy Rosenbloom and his sister's 60% share might not be the most attractive option with so many investments dried up. Then again, people that play at that level financially can find a way if they want. I'm anxious to know if the CBA situation will hurt interest in purchasing the team too. 

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Ouch!

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on May 31, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn

That sucks like crap

Touchdown St.Louis Rams Won the SuperBowl

by WaZuP cReAtOr on May 31, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Let the speculation begin

Being one of those out of town Rams fans, let me just say I’d like them to stay in St. Louis. But if they are going to move, I would hope they go to Dallas or LA, in that order.

Your uncle molests collies.

by 3k on May 31, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

What about Canada?

I’m joking, if it’s not played on ice it won’t work in Canada.

But I wouldn’t be surprise if they move back to LA. First it’s a huge market, and we can’t say that St-Louis has a great crowd looks at the last 2 years, the dome had a lot of empty seats.
By the way I know what it feels to see your favorite team move away, I miss my Quebec Nordique.

by MathB on May 31, 2009 11:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Wont be long for Canada....

Figure Toronto may get one eventually (Bills?). They seem to be the only Canadian city that sustains teams in American leagues – from MLB to MLS.

Free Brandon Wood!

by gorams77 on May 31, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Toronto will have a team anytime soon because when the Bills played in Toronto it’s wasn’t sold out. Remember it’s harder to maximize the profit in Canada because of the currency. But I agree Toronto is the only city that might get a football franchise, but i don’t really care because I live closer to New York and Boston than Toronto.

by MathB on May 31, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also an out of state Rams fan

but grew up in SoCal when I became a fan so I wouldn’t mind them back in LA. No disrespect to any St.Louie residents, but because I don’t live there it doesn’t matter to me if they move (I stuck with them as a fan from their move away from LA and will stick with them if they move again….what can I say, they are my team). I live in AZ now so as long as they stay in NFC West – I get to watch them live once a year at least.

Free Brandon Wood!

by gorams77 on May 31, 2009 12:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way been a Rams fan since 5 yr old and live in New England

i love the Rams no mater if they move or not but i would like to see them stay there, Hey how about y ou guys do like the Packers and all the St Louis Rams fans buy team stocks and you own the Rams lol Dam that would be cool lol

by james535 on Jun 1, 2009 1:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My ONLY stipulation in a move...

is that the keep the name “Rams.” That would the only thing that I would ask. I would love to see them back in LA or stay in StL. If they moved to any other destination, then just keep the name and you keep me an apparel purchasing fan. I would hate to see a name cahnge a la Oilers to Titans or Browns to Ravens.

Free Brandon Wood!

by gorams77 on Jun 1, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you gorams77...

I had season tickets to the old St. Louis Cardinal football team for their last 6 years they were here. When they moved to Arizona they broke my heart but I still followed them. Then when the Rams moved to St. Louis I “also” became a Ram fan but I have never stopped following the Cardiac Cards. If (when) the Rams leave St. Louis I’ll have had two teams leave my hometown…just how much can a football fan take?

Note: I played football my last two years at Mizzou, but only got to play in 8 games. Football runs through my veins even though I wasn’t that good.

Go Rams!

"We can't run. We can't pass. We can't stop the run. We can't stop the pass. We can't kick. Other than that, we're just not a very good football team right now." --- Bruce Coslett, New York Jets Head Coach circa 1990s

by Nbr1RamFan on May 31, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If not LA

where could they go? (If they move)

by MathB on May 31, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure on the exact details but I believe there is an argument out there

The Rams could actually move by 2012. The buyer could somehow block any renovations set to be made to the Dome.

Ahh, I’m beyond happy. Please come back home to LA

by Option27 on May 31, 2009 2:49 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why Would the Rams Moves back to LA

I don’t think I would move the Rams back to LA if I were the new owners. LA lost two football teams in the 90’s due to a lack fan support. I never understood why a city of close to 10 million people couldn’t support a single football team.

Over the past two years we have seen the worst two consecutive seasons of rams football in the history of the rams organization. Once the rams win more than four games (which will happen next year), the stadium will be sold out again.

LA has 10 million people and you can’t sellout the stadium. How pathetic is that?

by tross282003 on May 31, 2009 3:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Ask Georgia

why LA lost their team. You’d need an Ouija board for that, but it’s widely believed Georgia allowed the on-field product to deteriorate so she’d have the justification necessary to move to St. Louis. LA fans were screwed, and not for the first time. I might point out attendance has been dismal in the Gateway city for a while. I’d be fine with a two to three year rebuilding program for the team, so long as they show steady improvement. But the city might be sold to West Coast interests by then.

Also I’ve noticed many Rams fans have reacted to the news with indifference, and some even support it. If it were up to me, the Rams would stay right where they are. From a business standpoint, LA is much more attractive, though.

by Ram_Country on May 31, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Define "a while".

Please.

Because attendance didn’t start dropping until the team started sucking. (for the record, they sold out every game when they sucked before the Super Bowl) And if you think Georgia let things run down to make attendance fall, then you haven’t paid attention to the product that’s been put on the field lately. There’s a reason so many players have been booted off the team this off season.

LA fans might have been screwed by a plot, but St. Louis fans were screwed by an inept front office. Either way, neither city provided much support in tough times. Then again, LA is about 4 times as large as St. Louis so they should have been better suited to weather bad times. But, either way, you can’t point to fan support in St. Louis and think it’s any different or better in LA.

I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.

by Tackle Box on May 31, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys keep confusing

attendance with ticket sales. All but 5,000 seats are sold as season tickets. The games last year that weren’t sold out were only 1,000 or so tickets short. The empty seats reflected season ticket holders who didn’t bother to attend and throw good money after bad paying for parking and the like. Many of the fans for the other team that everyone talked about were sitting in seats they bought from season ticket holders. The owners already had their money for all those seats back in May when season ticket owners had to send in their checks.

Every story published here says the earliest the Rams could leave is 2015. I’ve never heard of anything that says they can leave any earlier. The lease is pretty clear from what I’ve seen.

by andyrose on May 31, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Rams Move...

Sacramento Rams….Sounds good to me

by johnniewarthawg on May 31, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah Right.

Thats the biggest joke ever. We don’t even have decent college stadium in place! CSUS is poor. I think the max attendance is like 16,000.

by CaliRamMan on Jun 3, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm in

I’m buying 2 season tickets the second they become available. Maybe 4. Going all the way to Oakland can be a pain the ass sometimes (I’m physically disabled, that complicates things). I just changed my seat location and was day dreaming about a Sacramento team and how convenient that’d be…..hell I’d pay a lot more for the same seats in Sacramento if I didn’t have that freaking drive.

I’m now on the 20 yard line, row 11, still on the aisle because my jacked up leg doesn’t like being bent, but I’d kick down some jack for better seats if they were local.

Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.

by CoachConnors on Jun 3, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As you can tell by my user name...

…this would be awesome news if the Rams land in LA again. I mean, just, phenomenal news. I might even cry with glee. They left before I fell in love with football during the GSOT days. Grown up in LA my whole life. It’d be a dream come true to have a brand new stadium built next to either Staples Center or near the Home Depot Center. This is one Rams fan that would still show up to the games if we’re 0-15 heading into the final week. I’d have season tickets and all. I mean, just wow. I’m sorry if I sound like a selfish d-bag, but as an LA native, we NEED a team, I don’t care if we get the Raiders (well, maybe I DO care if it’s the Raiders, I’d settle for the Bengals). So long as we get the NFL back in LA. If the Rams were that team, I’d like to encourage you guys to support them despite the departure, and know that they do have fans here that will support them, especially if they’re the lone team, flagship of Los Angeles.

by LARamsFan29 on Jun 1, 2009 2:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don Corleone...

…Would be an awesome owner. He’d make Rosenbloom an offer he can’t refuse. :P

by LARamsFan29 on Jun 1, 2009 2:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

why not LA?

being from LA im pretty damn excited
check this out. also with the stadium being 10 minutes away from my house! GO Rams!
http://www.losangelesfootballstadium.com/

by ramfan56 on Jun 1, 2009 3:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I love LA

I was crushed when the Rams left LA and with the new stadium deal approved in LA, I’m loving the fact that a move back to LA is very possible. I think the NFL wants a team in LA (obviously) and it would only be fitting that the Rams would come back home. No disrespect to the good people of St. Louis, but I have never been a St. Louis Rams fan, since the move I was a Ram Fan. Bust out the watermelons…

by Super99 on Jun 1, 2009 8:44 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I can drive to LA!

I would be thrilled if they went back to LA I grew up watching them there and we could attend more games if they go back. We live in Vegas and will NEVER get an NFL team here.

by ramsmom on Jun 1, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How would you like

the Chargers? They can move much sooner than the Rams. If you really do have a stadium project approved and ready, which seems unlikely since no national news source has picked up the story, the Chargers will be ready to move in a couple of years. The Rams can’t move for six.

And if any team were to move to Toronto, another unlikely situation, it would probably be Buffalo since they are already playing games there.

I don’t put the odds of the Rams staying in St. Louis at more than 50-50, if that, but I’ll be old enough I probably would have given up my season tickets by 2015 anyway.

by andyrose on Jun 1, 2009 5:33 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

RE: How would you like

The Chargers have already bolted LA. SD can keep em.

by LARams1968 on Jun 7, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rams are Rams

I don’t care whether they play in St Looie, LA or El Paso the Rams have always been my team and always will be. And, I live in NC and work right beside the Panther’s stadium.

by edpjr on Jun 1, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Moving Vans

Seeing my team leave town broke my heart but didn’t stop me from being a fan. I have autographed Faulk and Bulger jerseys (wearing one in my profile), I have a Holt autographed ball, and I watch everytime I can. I’ll claim the Rams as mine for the rest of my life, no matter where they go.

I’m trying to empathize with the Loo, hey I’ve been there, but the truth is I would love to have the Rams back on the west coast. Love.

Sorry, eh. Canada is no place for my Rams. Go back to your Blue Bombers.

Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.

by CoachConnors on Jun 2, 2009 1:33 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wear 'em

I wear my Rams jerseys to 49ers games, because 49ers fans are fagboys who can’t do anything about it.

Lived in LA during the Rams and Raiders days. Now based in NorCal, I am still a die hard Rams fan and Raiders season ticket holder.

by CoachConnors on Jun 2, 2009 1:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another Rosenbloom

I don’t know what the probability of a Rams return to LA is. I don’t think it is too likely.
I DO remember the rebirth of the franchise when Rosenbloom bought the team from that idiot who traded the baltimore colts to Dan Reeves for the Rams. He’s the one who hired that ‘genius’ from UCLA, Tommy Prothro, He’s the coach that punted on third down because it was too risky to go for a first. The Rams went from 6-7-1 to 10-4 the year Carrol took over.
When I think about the Rams being sold that’s what I remember. I hope the new owner is a dedicated and smart football man. I want the Rams to be returned to a perennial powerhouse status.

by LARams1968 on Jun 7, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Opps! That was 12-2 not 10-4. It WAS a while back.

by LARams1968 on Jun 7, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sale

Much to the dismay of the many Rams fans in St. Louis, there is a way this could happen, returning the Rams to Los Angeles.

AEG, the Anshutz Entertainment Group, is a world-class and first-class sports and entertainment organization that by itself, has revitalized downtown Los Angeles. It is owned and operated by Ed Roski and Philip Anshutz who besides being billionaires, have deep, long-standing political connections in Los Angeles and other cities as well. The Staples Center and L.A. Live are just two of their masterpieces. To get a better view of their reach, check out: aegworldwide.com

When USC was having lease and usage issues with the Coliseum Commission over the The L.A. Coliseum, Anshultz offered to build a downtown stadium for USC’s exclusive use. Why USC didn’t take the deal is a mystery but suffice to say, these men are no puppies, they are big dogs.

If anybody could bring the Rams back to L.A, I’d put my money on these guys.

Vic

by victorian on Jun 8, 2009 12:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for the Rams to return.

Here’s a pretty detailed article that showed up in the Post-Dispatch over the weekend. I doubt you saw it not being a St. Louisian, so I’ll link it here.

Here’s the link.

I have a very, umm...photographic brain. A lot like Ansel Adams but in color and with a lot more, uh.....insertion and pubic hair.

by Tackle Box on Jun 8, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks.

Interesting article. I’m certainly not holding my breath, but I think if the team was to return, AEG would be a major player.

Vic

by victorian on Jun 10, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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