should tak a pass on Vick. He certainly doesn’t fit the four pillars. Yes, he should be given a chance to earn a living in the future, but just not as the QB of the Rams.

Get off your high horse….I don’t believe in whaty Vick did but lets not treat this any differnet frm hunting. I mean hell, its an ESPN interview out there with Peyton Manning inside his home and what do you see….A deer head mounted on his wall. Truth of the matter is Vick is being punished for killing mans best friend Or horse racing…them horse are shelles of themselves once there done, If they survive that.. Yes he bankrolled an illegal activity…but come on….he killed Lassie. The hell with Bambi and Mr. Ed!
Thats the issue underneth all th B.S.

We got Leonard Little who kill a human, and then repeated to action…he got what??? a week of protest.

We have athletes who beat their wives……..

But the man who beats a dog…..let him burn

Get the hell out of here.

If he can get back to his old form he would be the perfect fit for the Rams. He is mobile, he will draw national attention which bring in revenue, he has an hell of an arm that could help Avery, he minimize the O line flaws, and he would put two 1000 yrd rusher in the back field. His mobility also eats up clock……thus giving the defense a ton of rest. Don’t forget he took falcon deep in playoffs with bum ass recievers and a running back who couldnt walk in S Jackson shoes. If and only if he can play at similair level before he was locked up I say trade a 5th round pick, get his rights from the Falcons to keep from competing with other clubs and sign him to league minimum (or a million or so) til he proves himself

And don’t give me that felon on the roster……Pisa had a felon back in college, Incognito has a history, Little has one, and I am sure others had their brush with law. We talking young kids who displayed professional talent at a young age….they been pampered and they lashed out. Its the NFL people not the church chior.

run the wild hog – or whatever you want to call it.

if the league lets him play this year. The commissioner is setting up a strong standard he has to meet to be reinstated, and so far the only hints of remorse I see come from his lawyer. Vick still looks and acts like a thug. Part of that may be that he had to be tough in prison and has to decompress from that experience. Still, he has a long way to go to meet the standards needed to get reinstated.

that the illegal betting operation was limited to the dog fighting? I really don’t know and hope someone does. Sports has to take a very dim view of players betting on sports. Once they start down that road the possibility of throwing games or shaving points always exists. If the betting operation was on sports as well as dog fights, then I think Vick is going to have a much longer road before he is allowed to come back. On the other hand, if it was solely the dog fights then the gambling issue isn’t quite so serious. Can someone clear this up?

Whether the guy is a dog lover or not isn’t going to affect our team…with maybe the exception of legal ramifications if Vick cant keep his hands clean.
Back to football. How can we consider this guy at a point of rebuilding that our team has reached. We are starting from scratch. Changed the aesthetics of the locker room, and hall ways of the building to emphasize team acheivement, rather than individuality. We have put an emphasis on character, team first, and a work ethic to match. So tell me why we would bring in a guy who is a virus to a team. It is like we have forgotten what happened in Atlanta. How their success disquised the fact that Vick showed defiance left and right. Vick would constantly ignore play calls and replace them with an option play, in which he would take it himself (often times with success). He would question Mora’s decisions and undermine him amongst the team.
Thats not even the best part, Arthur Blank told Mora he could not suspend Vick from games as punishment. He told him to concentrate on coaching and leave Vick to do what he does so well. In fact it got to the point that one had to go…Coach Mora is now in Seattle, huh!

So, due to the position the Rams are in with a new coaching staff, a relatively young team, and a new attitude, I would have to say NO on Vick. Defiance is a virus, and the last thing our team of young players needs, is someone contradicting the direction our coaches want to go.
But, you are right, there is no doubting his effectiveness, and what he does to defenses on the field. Not to mention the national attention he draws to his team. Unfortunately we are not in a position to bring in a player like this.

That should tell us something after all the times he supported him in the past.

       I disagree with you somewhat, and agree with you somewhat but I was repying to CoachConnors inference on needing to have the sun shining out your ass to be a fan. No more excuses for Bulger. Perform or leave. Nothing personal, but we can’t afford him anymore.

This may have been one of the most pointless threads I have ever read. This is supposed to be about football, in particular the Rams. Not murdering communists, animals, pedifiles, bashing authors, reporters, commentators, etc. How does any of that address whether or not the Rams should pick up Vick. How about someone come up with some stats, benefits, problems, with picking up Vick.

How about he will come rediculously cheap and could be used as that all-desired change of pace back? Or how the media hoopla around Vick could do 1 of 2 things. 1. Get people interested in the Rams again in STL. or 2. Get everyone to boycott Rams games, effectively hurting attendence even more.

Those are good arguments for this post. Not, “Burn the witches!!”

And there’s my rant. Have a great night!