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Day 2: 2009 NFL Draft Day 2

So it begins again... We'll have lots more thoughts, afterthoughts on the picks tomorrow and over the week ahead and it'll be topic du jour on Turf Show Radio this Thursday, 7 p.m. Central. RIght now, we're just a few minutes away from starting all over again, and the Rams have the second pick in the third round, the second pick of the day...unless they swing a trade, which Devaney has mentioned as a possibility.

If they keep the pick, there are some intriguing picks to be had. Georgia Tech DE Michael Johnson is still on the board. He's an athlete in need of good coaching to bring out his full potential. The Rams have had success with DEs in the third round before (though different leadership), Leonard Little was a third round pick in 1998. Another player still on the board who's on lots of top 50 prospect lists is Vandy CB D.J. Moore. Either of those guys would probably be my pick here, but draft boards are a crazy thing when you get to the third round. We'll see.

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Take one of those two now and then trade up for Barden

We were trying to trade up for Lauranitus and we couldn’t but he ended up falling to us anyway.

by JoeyBombs on Apr 26, 2009 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I think thier gonna go

DE-Micheal Johnson or WR-Ramses Barden, if they go Johnson then they’ll try to go Barden in the 4th, a RB in the 5th (Kory Sheets), CB in the 6th (Joe Burnett) and QB in the 7th (Graham Harrell)

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't get all the Ramses Barden infatuation.

If it weren’t for him being 6’6" and with Nicks, Robiskie, Massaquoi, and Britt being off the board, would there be this much pining for him?

He’s about as big a risk there is at the WR position and is a virtual unknown. I wonder how many people who are demanding the Rams pick him in the 3rd have actually seen him? He’s big and that’s all he is. He’s not particularly fast or quick. He’s not a great route runner. He’s just big.

There are better receivers on the board right now and even if you demand a “big receiver” why not pine for Louis Murphy?

Desperation is what is driving this Ramses Barden infatuation. The guy can probably be had in the 4th round anyway.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

been looking into barden

The more I look the more I like. He’s a real smart, real big wr. Pretty quick for having such a long stride. He had 50 td in college in a a lesser div, but so did rice and fitzgerald and he destroyed their college numbers. I dont actaully think there is a better 3rd rounder on the board, but who knows

by gomer7 on Apr 26, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

He also has enormous hands which is helpful for a WR

I watched him in that little college workout contest on ESPN and I liked him a lot.

by JoeyBombs on Apr 26, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brandon Lloyd kicked everyone's ass the year he was in that competition.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fletcher

Not on the top 20 still available nor Kiper’s list of top 10 remaining corners.

by stlfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Mocking Dan hates it.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is where I have to say

I completely trust Billy Devaney.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes I'm hoping he knows what he's doing

Although I think we could have gotten this guy in the fourth

by JoeyBombs on Apr 26, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same

I’m just surprised

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Justin King

King was on nobody’s radar last year in the fourth round.

by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 26, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just think with King and Hill already there we reached for a guy we could have gotten later.. I was expecting WR there…

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

U know thats right.. old Al has lost it… well he hasn’t had “IT” in a while…

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think 2nd day is more of how the specific team values the player…. a guy could be 4th round or 5th round… these not taht much disparity… excpet when you’re Oakland and you have a senile guy running the team

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions  

means

he agrees with your point.

by stlfan on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh ok… I thought I got some kind of warning for calling Al Davis senile

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

no

no warnings for saying something that’s true

by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

ok… i go to school in the bay area and all I get are oak and sf games.. and Ive been forced to watch what Al Davis is doing to the team

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Braylon Edwards

i would have rather traded our third round pick fo him.

by NICKSC on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions  

I’d be down with Barden, Murphy, or Iglesias for a 4th rounder

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

I like Derrick Williams, but he’s about the same as Avery

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was thinking bigger guys and I thought williams would be gone by our 4th round pick

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Bengals just love guys with questionable motivation, don't they?

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

All 3 have great talent but yes very questionable but thats the Bungals isn’t it… all 3 could be great or busts

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a series of bad picks, considering they essentially have a lame duck coach

Marvin Lewis is going to be pleading with the players to save his job from day one. Terrible atmosphere to try and bring up guys like Andre Smith.

Maualuga should be fine though, he can make this his team on defense.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Apr 26, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's funny you said that

because espn was putting him on a pedestal this morning.

Guys like Herm Edwards and the rest were going on and on about how Andre Smith wouldn’t be a problem since Lewis was such a great motivator. They kept saying Smith’s problems weren’t criminal but simply he made a few bad decidions. What? A few bad decisions? Right. Those “few bad choices” just happened to probably be the biggest “decisions” of his life. And he royally screwed each of them up. Well, I guess you could argue he didn’t since he was still drafted 5th overall, but he was drafted by the Bengals. There’s not a much worse situation for him to be in.

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

as a hawkeye fan

i think you all will grow to like this pick.

by erik on Apr 26, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Here's VanRams blurb if you hadn't checked yet

Link

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

not to use cliches' but he's a high motor guy

he showed remarkable improvement last year. He always seemed talented, but seemed to finally tap into his athleticism and turn it into usable skills on the field. he’s known to be a pretty quiet kid. he was one of the parade of embarrassing arrests on the Iowa team w/ that DUI and landed in the doghouse for a while, but was the good citizen going forward.

good tackler, i wonder if he couldn’t play some safety.

by erik on Apr 26, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Fletcher

if they reached that much for him it means they really wanted the guy, so they must have seen something that Kiper or other journalist didn’t see. He’s tall, he’s physical I think it’s what you need against Housmandzadeh, Fitzgerald or Crabtree. Because think about it we got some really good possession receiver in our division.

by MathB on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Now we need one, our next pick has to be WR doesn’t it ????

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn’t be surprise if it’s a DE or HB

by MathB on Apr 26, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell no

we need a huge DT that will hit the spot lol, like a 330 lbs run stufer

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Roy Miller

how about Roy Miller from Texas… he’s only 310 but apparently is relaly strong and is a “high character” guy

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

i like that idea

this is a bad draft for DTs though

by Ryan Van Bibber on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure

thats not a problem we can feed him get him up to 330 lol

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions  

i know VanRam

im just hopping that Devaney has spoted a telented DT that is under the radar ,but he dont have to be a super star, just huge to let our DE and LB free up

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions  

i know

were realy starting to look good

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Sean Smith Utah

Realization: If Miami didnt trade up… I feel like we would have drafted Sean Smith, which would have made my draft weekend

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions  

Devaney

He’s the man, weve been missing that since 2000

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions  

i dont know about him

i would be a little bit sceptical to pic a 6ft 4 CB , he sounds more like a basketball player lol, tall guys are not very cordinated to play CB he would be mixing up his feet trying to stay with shifty receivers

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Let Miami have him

i like the CB we just picked to be honest

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

that’s bad three WR in a row, I don’t think Barden will be available in the 4th

by MathB on Apr 26, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

WR

i feel good that there will be a WR in the 4th that I will be satisfied with

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

I think RB in the Fourth

Lets Face it the Rams are not going to throw the ball 30 to 45 times a game anymore. And having a big WR’s would help for redzone. But that doesn’t mean any of these guys left will be that guy.

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Steven Jackson Needs Fresh legs behind him

Steven needs someone that has really fresh legs behind him. Spags will want 30 to 45 carries a game out of the Run

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Our 3

are probably Barden, Iglasias, or Murphy, all still on the board

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 10:23 AM CDT reply actions  

GIANTS!!!

they take Nicks now they take Barden… those selfish New Yorkers

by heinzketchup on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

what is up whith the Pats?

why is this team alowed to make so many pics , god dam thats just not fair, i dont care how many fucking coaches they sell every year ,thats Beletcheks trick ,every year he sells his coaches and gets draft pics , what ta fuck

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

The Pats are really smart, They rarely pick in the first round. And when they do it’s low picks to avoid shelling out the Money. They keep the cap down, and they restack talent by having alot of picks

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

think about this

we get one #2 pic, the Patriots get 4 #2 pics

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions  

That’s been the pats system for years now

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

no wonder every year they are the favoret to win the superbowl

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Other teams are starting to catch on though, Look what the browns did this year. They kept trading down and stock piled a lot of picks in the later rounds to help the Entire team.

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Think about it would you rather pick at lets say 10 to 20; when those picks are going to cost you big money. Or trade down to say 25 to 30, and pay less. Also picking up another second rounder or possible another third or fourth.

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Chicago will go WR at #99 so that could be Iglesias or Murphy… Dolphins get Turner from USC I really liked him…

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

oh hold on

they just said that there are more WR better then the one just taken

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

yeah

i like Murphy>Iglasias. He’s 6’2 runs a 4.4 and is a deep threat, we tried to get speed in FA with Nate Washington, Murphy is a very similar player

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions  

sounds good

6’2 and runs 4.4. 40 that is good we need that lol

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Murphy

CBS sports had Murphy running a 4.32…

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

i thought that the only WR that ran a 4.3 40 was the guy that Okland drafted

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

The timers were messed up

some had him clocked from 4.32 to 4.4, the official number from the draft was 4.43

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

Patriots got another 2nd next year for the 3rd they just traded

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

I am super jealous of the pats draft guys. They are masters

by Damacles11 on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

WR in the 4th and DT in the 5th… ???? what if Jennings the RB is there in th4 5th though..

DT I like are Baker from Hampton and Sammie Lee Hill- Stillman

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm hoping for

RB Kory Sheets in the 5th, I think he has amazing potential

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

WR in the fourth
DT in the fifth

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

im depressed will there be any one for us

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

rams need to be aggressive and trade up to get iglesias or murphy!!!

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions  

exactly….thats why we cant just sit back and watch all the recievers get picked off one by one

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

rashad johnson S goes to the cardinals

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

we just took a CB we dont need another one

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM CDT reply actions  

Patriots keep stockpiling picks and good players… McKenzie will be a beast in their system.. Steelers, Giants, Pats— know what they are doing…

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

haha naw man they said that they werent related bill just wanted to hang out with that guy at the draft

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

chase coffman gone to the bengals

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Great pick for the Bengals… if these guys pan out this could be a great draft for the bengals

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

iglesias gone!!!! to the bears…honestly this is disappointing that we arent being agressive

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

if they pan out yes…but there is a lot of risk with the guys they took

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta be Murphy then for us… size and speed

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Murphy

better be there, n we better take him if he is

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

murphy has to be the pick….i really hope hes there for us

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions  

would dallas or kansas city take murphy?

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

how likely do you think KC would take him?

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well thier best WR

is Dwayne Bowe, then probably Bobby Engram, not that strong

by Caruso on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

dallas takes…..

stephen mcgee QB

now we just need KC to pass on murphy

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Murphy, murphy, murphy

by Uncfan1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

KC takes…..

donald washington now we take murphy!!!

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions  

off to the fourth round thread…

by rams since day1 on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM CDT reply actions  

sorry boys

but this is how you bild a team

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

told you we needed a run stufer

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM CDT reply actions  

people wont beleve that this is the same Rams team as laste year

by james535 on Apr 26, 2009 11:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Now our "D" is good....? C'mon

We’ve added Butler, Laurenitas and some DT to a defense that gave up 29, count ‘em 29, points per game last year. We’ve still got an aged Leonard Little trying to play DE, a too small Chris Long on the other end, and a guy named Carriker at DT who has shown nothing in the way of pass rushing or stopping the run in 2 years. We’re still saddled with Pisa at one of the LB slots and the perennially injured Tye Hill and unreliable Fahkir Brown in the backfield. Our defense is basically still crap, maybe a little better crap than last year, but crap all the same. So what do we do to fix it? Draft a “big-name” OT with the 2nd overall pick when there were plenty of other ones of similar capabilities available in round 2 or 3, and use rounds 5 & 6 for an unknown WR and QB. As a result, this fall the Cards with Kurt Warner and Larry Fitzgerald will demolish us twice. The 49er’s with Crabtree and Gore will bomb and run all over us in both games. And the Seahawks with Hasselbeck and Housh will bomb us twice while new LB Aaron Curry makes us wish for years to come we’d drafted him. I’ve been a Ram’s fan for 40 years and this draft appalls me. Jay Zygmunt, Scott Linehan and Jim Haslett must be snickering right now.

by edpjr on Apr 26, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I feel like I've read this before....

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 26, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Read before, huh?

Ok, which points in the “repeat” can you legitimately disagree with…?

by edpjr on Apr 27, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, you want to move the converstation here?

That’s fine. I’ll delete your FanPost and we can all discuss everything here?

Fair? Or do you want to keep it open in the FanPost section?

Did I ever tell you about the time Brasky and I went horseback riding, but there weren't any horses around? Anyway, Brasky throws a saddle on my back and rides me around Wyoming for three days. Well, wouldn't ya know it, my stamina increased with each day, and I develop tremendous leg muscles. So anyway, Brasky decides to enter me into the Breeders Cup under the name Turkish Delight. And Im running in second place, and I'm running, and I break my ankle. So anyway, they're about to shoot me. Then someone from the crowd yells out, God bless him, Dont shoot him, he's a human.

by Tackle Box on Apr 28, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

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