Being Billy Devaney - QB
Well, here we are, trying to fill out the roster, create some depth, and maybe even try to build some potential for the future. If things go as planned, by the time the Rams draft in the 5th round, we'll have all (well, maybe most) of our most pressing needs filled and will be looking to make a great steal late on the 2nd day.
While the subject of Marc Bulger is controversial (to say the least) around here, can we all accept he's going to be our quarterback this season? You might not like it, but there's about a .00001% chance there will be someone other than Bulger lining up under center when the Rams take the field for their season opener.
I for one fall into the category of a Bulger supporter. I'm just putting that out there. However, I'm not blind to the fact that he'll be 32 when the season starts and isn't going to be any younger the following season. We've got a young offense (2nd youngest in the league at press time) so it makes sense that we're going to have to start developing a quarterback, right? Is this the year to start that? I'm not sure. A lot of it depends on what is available in the later rounds, and is what is available going to be a better bet than what will be available at the top of the draft next year? That's a good question, no?
So, let's start with looking at our roster after the jump.
- Marc Bulger - 6'3" 212 - Signed through 2013 - Bulger still has a lot of guaranteed money left which will count against the cap this year and next ($22.5M in 2009 and $18M in 2010). I can now tell you how he's still a good quarterback, but ultimately that's my opinion. He's been battered for the past couple of seasons and that's definitely taken its toll on him. How he responds to much better protection and a run-centric offense is still a mystery, but at this time the team can't afford to not bet on him to succeed.
- Brock Berlin - 6'1" 215 - Signed through 2009 - Berlin is a backup quarterback, plain and simple. Anyone who thinks or tells you he deserves a legit shot to win the starting job at any point in the next year is letting their disdain for Marc Bulger interfere with rational thinking. There's nothing special about Berlin other than maybe he's fun to be around. If the Rams have to turn to him at any point this season, then a top 5 draft pick is definitely in our future.
After Bulger and Berlin, the Rams are suspected to be interested in and on the verge of signing Gus Frerotte. Sexy? Not in the least bit. But he can pick up offenses quickly, is a professional about himself, and played in a similar offense last season to what the Rams are going to install this year. He's a one year filler. Nothing more, nothing less. He's not here to compete for the job but can do the job if he has to and at age 38, he's a much better option than turning the reigns over to Brock Berlin.
And that's our Quarterbacks. Not pretty, but with Bulger hopefully we have some upside to look forward to. If he fails this season (or falls short of expectations), it's not the end of the world. I expect a major improvement this season, but I'm realistic. That improvement should result in a better record (how could it not, right?), but we're going to have to watch the games to see the little things. Simply looking at the record and forming an opinion is being short-sighted.
So, with that being said, should the Rams draft a quarterback this year? Is it worth it? We've already got a full stable of QBs (assuming they sign Frerotte) so they wouldn't be filling out the roster. If they do draft a QB, you can kiss Mr. Berlin goodbye but I don't think there will be any demonstrations at the Dome or demands of season ticket money being returned as a result.
But, I ask again, is it worth it to draft a Quarterback this year when drafting for depth on either of the lines or at Cornerback or Tight End or Running Back or wherever might benefit the team much more? Well, one reason might be that you can start to teach the new QB the system and get him some time with the team. Is that a benefit? Eh. Matt Ryan doesn't seem to think so, but then again he was a 1st round draft pick. We won't have that luxury here of such a high profile addition, so maybe it is better. Who really knows, right? Either way, let's see what's going to be available in the later rounds of this year's draft (rounds 5 through 7).
- Rhett Bomar - Sam Houston State - 6'2" 215 - Had a pretty good season for the Bearkats with 3,355 yards, 27 TDs, and 13 INTs. Was originally an Oklahoma Sooner (when he was the top quarterback recruit in the nation) but was kicked off the team after taking money from boosters. Resurfaced at Sam Houston and salvaged his career. He has the ability to play in the NFL, but comes with some character question marks, I suppose.
- Nate Davis - Ball State - 6'2" 217 - Once considered to be a possible 2nd round lock in this year's draft, Davis has seen his stock slip over the last month or so. Many are questioning his decision to leave school early especially after his struggles in his last two games at Ball State. He has a big arm and is extremely athletic but apparently many teams doubt his ability to lead an NFL team. Only one team (Indianapolis Colts) sent a representative to Davis' Pro Day workout (Muncie is like an hours drive away from Indy). Scouts also have concerns about his height, but in my opinion 6'2" isn't all that short. Just ask Drew Brees.
- Mike Reilly - Central Washington - 6'3" 214 - The 49ers seem pretty interested in Reilly saying he's "Not a high-round guy, but a middle-round guy that's got some upside" Had a great season for the Wildcats compiling 3,706 yards, 37 touchdowns, and 6 INTs. He's got a big arm and has plenty of confidence. Also has a lot of upside. If he's available in the 6th round (he probably won't be), it'd be hard for the Rams to pass him up if they're serious about developing someone with great talent and tons of upside.
- Nathan Brown - Central Arkansas - 6'1" 217 - Put up great numbers through his career at Central Arkansas (10,558 yards, 100 TDs) and has been considered by some to be the best college quarterback to ever play in the state of Arkansas. That's one heck of a compliment for a guy virtually no one has ever seen play. Could be a great pick late in the draft.....could be nothing more than a backup. It's hard to tell.
- Mike Teel - Rutgers - 6'4" 220 - Was red hot to end the season for the Scarlet Knights who has the size NFL teams covet at this position. He struggled for about the first half of last season, but the finish he put up might have convinced some teams he can play at the next level. Frankly, it's guys like this that concern me. I'd prefer a QB who very rarely struggled and didn't take half a season to get it figured out before I went and spent a draft pick (and every pick of ours this year are extremely valuable to the rebuilding process) on him.
After Teel, you'll be looking at guys like Graham Harrell (Texas Tech), David Johnson (Tulsa), Hunter Cartwell (Louisville), Cullen Harper (Clemson), and Tom Brandstater (Fresno State). Some of these guys might even go un-drafted, which means you could pick them up as a free agent. Personally, outside of maybe Nate Davis or Mike Reilly, I'd probably pass on this bunch. I just feel we'd be wasting a pick on a backup quarterback when someone who could play special teams might be more valuable.
Depending on how the season plays out, it's probably a better idea to wait until next season to draft a QB. I'm not overly excited about the 2010 class of QBs, but next year we should have a better handle on the roster and much less holes to fill making a reach or a high draft pick much easier to swallow. Plus, we will still probably have Bulger on the roster in 2010 so you probably wouldn't expect any of these guys to step in on day one.
Anyway, here's a look at what's probably going to be available next year.
Sam Bradford (Oklahoma), Jevan Snead (Mississippi), Tim Tebow (Florida), Colt McCoy (Texas), Jimmy Clausen (Notre Dame), Pat Devlin (Deleware), Tim Hiller (Western Michigan), Zac Robinson (Oklahoma State), Dan LeFevour (Central Michigan), Jake Locker (Washington), Juice Williams (Illinois), Jarrett Brown (West Virginia), and Daryll Clark (Penn State)
I have to admit right now of my man crush on Dan LeFevour. I've probably seen him play 3 or 4 times (once in person) and he has always impressed. He's got good size, a heck of an arm, and has great feet. He can beat you in so many ways.
So, what do you guys think? I know there are probably people who would love to see the Rams trade for Jay Cutler but a move like that would totally hamstring any chances the team has of having any roster flexibility for the next 3 years. So....do we draft this year and if Bulger falls on his face we can then replace him next sesaon, or do we put our faith in our curent QB and look at acquiring his replacement next year when we can pick a guy a little higher in the draft?
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LeFevour is a beast
I would love to see the Rams snag him in the ’10 draft.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Mar 29, 2009 1:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Future Rams' QB
Next year draft Clausen. Huge upside
by newpump on Mar 29, 2009 3:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He's one to watch
He will be an interesting prospect to monitor over 2010. He still has a lot to show me compared to a Snead or LeFevour.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Mar 29, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
future QB
I like the kid from Notre Dame but I do hope we don’t get a high draft pick next year because we were good in the 09 season getting high draft picks means you suck and hopefully we pick 25th next year.
by 39jackson on Mar 29, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why draft...?
and end up with a potential Ryan Leaf..? Matt Cassel was given away this year. How many Ram fans would’ve given a 2nd pick for him plus a lot more..? Former Ram, Ryan Fitzpatrick was available this year. Jay Cutler is disgruntled in Denver, and nobody seems to care about Brady Quinn. And, there’s a guy named Leftwich out there that I think is a lot better than Frerrote. Whether it’s Bulger’s ridiculous contract (it is) or whatever, the new Rams management ain’t thinking past him at QB for now. And, I agree Brock Berlin is just inert filler.
by edpjr on Mar 29, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the new Rams management ain’t thinking past him at QB for now
It’s never to early to look at the long-term.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Mar 29, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of all the quarterbacks you list
the only one I’d like to see on the Rams is possibly Brady Quinn.
I simply don’t get the love for Cassel, Ryan Fitzpatrick is not a QB worth building a team around, Cutler was disgruntled why exactly? and would have cost a fortune to acquire (if he was even available in the first place), and Byron Leftwich is injured all the time.
I get a "D" in common sense ... and an "F" in general helping.
by Tackle Box on Mar 29, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of all the QB's I listed...
Which one is not likely to do as good, or better, job than the shell-shocked and oft injured Marc Bulger? Marc showed some good stuff in 2003-2006, but since then, poor O-Line considered, he’s reminded me more and more of Jim Everett. A lot of the INT’s Bulger threw in 2007 and 2008 were due to perceived, rather than actual, pressure. I think so ’cause I watched all the games. KC opponents will soon understand the love of Cassel, and Jay Cutler is a young Pro Bowl QB that will only get better no matter where he plays.
by edpjr on Mar 29, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I answered your first question in the comment you responded to.
Brady Quinn….possibly.
Jay Cutler should not even be in this conversation. He’s not available and even if he is, his price tag is way more expensive than what the Rams could give up. Plus, in his 3 seasons, the Broncos are 17-20 in games started by him. He’s also thrown 37 INTs in 37 games (Bulger has thrown 36 in 42 games) and has a QB rating of only 87.1.
Some of that has to be attributed to the team he played on, but in no way was that team nearly as bad as the Rams teams Bulger’s had to play on during the same time period. Yet, we’re so eager to overlook Cutler’s lack of success?
And if the question your asking is actually “which QB is to do as good?” then what’s the point? Why would you replace your quarterback with someone who is going to give you the exact same performance unless you have an irrational disliking for the man?
Honestly, this talk about how great Cutler is and how he’s destined to keep getting better reminds me of all the Crabtree talk that was going on around here a couple of weeks ago. I’m not saying he’s a bad quarterback, but he’s not a savior either. And for the price the Broncos would want for him, he damn well better be.
I get a "D" in common sense ... and an "F" in general helping.
by Tackle Box on Mar 30, 2009 7:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rams were 13-35 over the past three seasons...
with the vast majority of those games started by Bulger at QB. I’ve been extremely critical of the Rams “D” for allowing 29.5 points per game last year and Lord knows they deserve it. However, Bulger put the D in a bad way numerous times with critical fumbles and interceptions. I’ve tried to find something really good about Marc, but the facts are since he took over in 2003, we’ve won a single playoff game. During that time he had Bruce and Holt (while they were still good) to work with and Faulk/Jax in the backfield. And Pace was good till 2006. It’s just hard for me to find many redeeming features for the man Mad Mike Martz picked to replace Kurt Warner. If you like him, fine, but I’d have tried somebody else rather than giving him $65 mil and a lifetime contract. And, I still think Cutler, Leftwich, Cassel, Quinn, etc. would’ve given us a better chance to win this season. I also still believe Crabtree will turn out to be one of the best players from this years draft.
by edpjr on Mar 30, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts on Rhett Bomar
I don’t think Bomar’s dismissal from Oklahoma should be counted too heavily against him. He basically got caught doing what hundreds of top football recruits are doing year after year — taking money from boosters. In his case, he was apparently set up with a part time job, which he would get paid for regardless of the hours worked. This isn’t much different from Laveraneus Coles and his “Free Shoes University” escapade. (He was apparently pegged on an internet fansite!) Coles has turned out to be a very good pro player, and hasn’t done anything to show up his teams.
That said, Bomar was a top high school recruit because he would have been a great college quarterback – big arm, fast feet. However, he wasn’t much of an accurate thrower, never completing the pro prerequisite 60% of his passes in a season. That is his downside, not his “character.”
He could probably beat out Berlin, and after that who knows? I like a guy who may have untapped talent and a drive to prove himself, especially from a second-day pick.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Mar 29, 2009 9:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't mean to imply I felt he had character issues.
but I think there are people out there who feel that way.
But, I’m not a fan of drafting him anyway, which is why I only mentioned Davis and Reilly as guys I’d consider drafting. Simply better quarterbacks, IMO.
I get a "D" in common sense ... and an "F" in general helping.
by Tackle Box on Mar 29, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bulger's contract
Where in the world did you come up with this?
“Bulger still has a lot of guaranteed money left which will count against the cap this year and next ($22.5M in 2009 and $18M in 2010).”
by hangdog on Mar 30, 2009 10:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Now that you mention it.
I didn’t clarify it like I wanted to. That’s not his cap hit for the season. However, it is his cap hit if cut from the team. Big difference. Thanks for pointing it out.
I get a "D" in common sense ... and an "F" in general helping.
by Tackle Box on Mar 30, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still don't think so
My research tells me the Rams take a $10mil cap hit if Bulger is traded this season, as opposed to the $8.5 mil cap hit the Rams will take if he plays for the Rams.
So trading Bulger would cost the Rams an additional $1.5 mil against the cap this season.
If I’m wrong, I’d like to know. But no one has been able to show me otherwise.
by hangdog on Mar 31, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm figuring it incorrectly.
I did a little research and found that to find the cap hit if released, the team is “penalized” the remaining guaranteed money left on the contract. In this case, any guaranteed money (no matter when it’s paid) is pro-rated evenly across the length of the contract.
So. Bulger signed a 6 year contract extension (2008-2013) with 27M dollars guaranteed which breaks down to 4.5M dollars per year (27/6). Since he’s played one season off that contract (2008) only 4.5M comes off the books for this season (22.5M hit) and after next season another 4.5M would come off (18M).
If this is the wrong way to calculate it, please let me know. I got my info here. I think there was another source I originally found (I was like 6 months ago) but I can’t remember where I found it now.
I get a "D" in common sense ... and an "F" in general helping.
by Tackle Box on Mar 31, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bulger got famous for replacing Kurt Warner.
5 games into the 2002 season Warner went down. At least I think it was 2002. Then Bulger came in and we won the next 5. What people don’t remember is that Pace was there to protect Bulger but injured during the Warner games. It was completely overlooked because of the quarterback situation. I submit that Bulger is a product of a system, which is no longer in place, making his resigning even more idiotic. I can’t wait for the post Bulger years. I’d love to have Tebow, Bradford or McCoy. After another season I bet at least one of them proves they can lead an NFL team.
by dbcouver on Mar 30, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd bet a million dollars
that Tim Tebow is a complete flop in the NFL.
I get a "D" in common sense ... and an "F" in general helping.
by Tackle Box on Mar 30, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see him being an effective receiving TE
in the Matt Jones mold, minus the coke.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Mar 31, 2009 4:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tebow...
Won’t do good at all in the NFL
Touchdown St.Louis Rams Won the SuperBowl
by WaZuP cReAtOr on Apr 1, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I bet the Bears and Cutler
whip our butts this year, unfortunately.
by edpjr on Apr 2, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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