Being Billy Devaney - CB
Well, thankfully the number of real areas of need on this team are starting to shrink. Granted, we still have a lot out there but I think we can all be happy with the additions at Center and Strong Safety.
Here at BBD, we've covered Offensive Tackle, Middle Linebacker, Strong Safety, Defensive Line, and Wide Receiver and for now I'm putting Center on the back burner since I don't feel it to be an area of need anymore. As it stands, we still have a few areas that haven't been covered that you can expect to see the team make an effort to improve either though the draft, through free agency, or by adding players that will be cut anytime between now and training camp.
Of those positions, I believe the area in need of most improvement is Cornerback. Now, the team did just ink Ron Bartell a little while back, unfortunately that's just not going to cut it. We all like Bartell (although he gives me headaches from time to time) and we all liked the signing but I think it's safe to say our Cornerback unit is no better (if not worse) now than our Wide Reciever unit . There's just no depth there whatsoever.
So, take a jump at the break and we'll discuss all things Rams Cornerbacks.
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Alright, we're going to have to add some depth here. Really, with the inexplicable handling of Fakhir Brown by the previous regime, we're left with one experienced and somewhat accomplished Cornerback in Bartell. We've got some other guys who have seen the field, but with mixed results so with that being said, let's take a look at the roster.
- Ron Bartell - 6'1" 205 - Signed through 2012 - Bartell, as most of us should be aware, just recently re-upped with the Rams signing a 4 year contract worth $25M ($28 with incentives) and will be paid $4.1M in 2009 which is guranteed. Overall, the Rams paid more than they would have had to if someone had vision enough to lock Bartell up for a few years last off season, but that didn't happen. All things considered though, this is actually a fairly team friendly contract compared to what other Cornerbacks were getting and Bartell was possibly the best CB on the market at the time. Other than the contract stuff, Bartell is a fairly solid cornerback (he's the best on this team by miles) and lends stability and experience to a unit that desperately needs some help.
- Jonathan Wade - 5'10" 195 - Signed through 2009 - Wade played in all 16 games last season (did you notice?) recording 23 tackles (3 solo) and one INT. (Note: Wade's played in every game for the Rams since being drafted - 32 of 32 games) Wade can play a little but should not be listed anywhere higher than number 3 on your depth chart. He'll make $460K this season. He's also young (24 years old) so maybe we can see some improvement out of him this year although I doubt his ceiling is all that high.
- Tye Hill - 5'10" 185 - Signed through 2010 - Hill was considered something coming out of college but has done absolutely squat since turning pro. With his athletic ability he was looked at as a potential lock down corner but has shown no real ability to do that at all. Another bust of the former regime? Well, lets just say he has been so far. Maybe Spags and his merry men can find something in him and turn Hill into a decent Nickle back or something. If not, he's sure to be gone after this season.
- Quincy Butler (6'1" 190), Justin King (6'" 186), David Roach (6'2" 215) - Out of these guys, you might want to keep an eye on King. He left college early last year and then got hurt in August which ended his season (torn ligament in big toe). In college he could burn and ran a 4.31 40-yard but he did struggle with covering Big Ten receivers (who aren't necessarily know to be the greatest WRs in college football). Hopefully, Spags can discover something in him since this team is desperate for another capable body back there.
And that's it. Pretty thin. Possibly the team will re-sign Jason Craft who was signed to the roster back in late September when Scott Linehan cut Fakhir Brown and Tye Hill was benched/injured (still banging my head against the desk). Craft isn't the best CB in the league, heck he wasn't the best CB on the Rams last year (and the competition wasn't stiff), but he was steady for the most part and provides a calming force out there and one I'd prefer to see as opposed to Wade, Hill, or King. Craft ended the season playing 13 games for the Rams (1 for the Saints) and recorded 63 tackles (Rams only) with 58 solo, 1 INT, forced 2 fumbles and recovered 3. All in all, Craft had a bit of a resurgence with the Rams.
Hopefully (I can't really believe I'm saying that) the Rams re-sign Jason Craft. Well, that's my opinion right now and I reserve the right to change my mind any time I feel fit. Maybe after I look at the rest of the free agent crop I'll feel compelled? Let's see what's out there.
- Daven Holly - Cleveland Browns - 5'10" 185 - Yup. I'm starting this list with Daven Holly. Holly was injured the entire 2008 season after signing with the Browns. They've since let him try to find a new employer. Tampa Bay seems to be somewhat interested in him, and he is only 26 years old and put up decent numbers in his first couple of seasons (5 INTs in 2006, 0 in 2007). The problem is, he appears to be exactly what the Rams have a lot of (5'10", 185, fast, hurt, underachiever) so do we really want or need another? Probably not. Man, Jason Craft is looking real good right now, isn't he?
- R.W. McQuarters - New York Giants - 5'10" 194 - Other than my obsession with wanting to go into business with R-dub and open a chain of sports bar restaurants (couldn't you hear yourself saying, "hey, let's all head down to R.W. McQuarters' for 25 cent wings and $3 pints"? C'mon.....you know you'd be there), I'm not sure what other need I'd have for him. Last season for the Giants, McQ played in 10 games recording 6 tackles (4 solo!) and returned a handful of kicks and punts. Sigh.....Jason Craft.....
- Deltha O'Neal - New England Patriots - 5'11" 194 - O'Neal lost his job early in the season and never really did anything to keep it or get it back. He's also not young (31 years old) and has definitely seen his best days. Something about him reminds me of when the Rams signed Jason Sehorn. I'm not sure why, but i figure if they did sign him, it wouldn't end well at all. Now the Rams could definitely use someone with O'Neal's experience and knowledge, but they also nee someone they can put out there almost every play (basically a number 2 CB) and O'Neal is not that someone anymore.
- David Barrett - New York Jets - 5'10" 195 - Barrett is serviceable at best but was getting paid way too much cash in New York ($3.71M) which is what got him cut. He's also 31 years old. Hold on.......I'm looking for Jason Craft's phone number.
- Dre' Bly - Denver Broncos - 5'10" 185 - Bly's another guy who underperformed (although he's better than Barrett) and was getting paid a lot of money so he was shown the door by the Broncos. He's also 32 years old (kinda hard to believe) and will struggle finding a starting gig this year.
- Terry Cousin - Cleveland Browns - 5'9" 185 - Was pretty much over-matched much of last season and has been shown the door. He's old (33) but so is Jason Craft.......but I'd rather have Jason Craft...
- Pacman Jones - Dallas Cowboys - 5'10" 185 - I decided to put Pacman on this list for a laugh and then I ran across this gem. Click THIS link and watch it rain....it's totally worth it.
- Ken Lucas - Carolina Panthers - 6'0" 205 - Lucas (30) probably has a market. Honestly, he's the best on the market since being released yesterday. There was talk of a trade for Lucas but he apparently nixed a trade to the Lions so the Panthers just released him (the move saved Carolina $2.4M). Needless to say, Lucas is a guy the Rams could definitely use but is probably going to sign a contract worth more than he's worth since there isn't much competition for him that is available. He might not make what he was making with the Panthers (and what he would have made with the Lions had he been traded) but he'll still probably get paid more than the Rams would prefer to spend on a guy who isn't part of their long-term plans.
- Chris McAlister - Baltimore Ravens - 6'1" 206 - McAlister used to really be something playing in that Ravens defense but he had some sort of injury last year to his knee and it's been kept fairly hush hush about what exactly the surgery entailed. He says he'll be cleared medically in May (his surgery was in November) so that's like a 7 month recovery period leading some to believe he might have had some reconstruction going on and might have trouble passing a physical.
So. What does everyone think of Jason Craft?
Actually, Ken Lucas is probably a better option and someone might be able to make an argument for Dre' Bly, but Lucas is probably going to be priced out of where the Rams would like to be and if it came down between Bly and Craft, I'd rather have Craft. We're familiar with him and he seemed to enjoy playing for the Rams last year (well, his performance sort of indicates he did) so he might be interested in being part of the rebuilding even though he might not be around once the re-build is completed.
Okay, so even if we sign Craft the job still isn't complete. This team needs an influx of young corners it can develop over the next couple of years. The guys we've drafted the last couple of seasons have provided absolutely nothing but headaches (except for Bartell) so the cupboard is bare and needs a re-stocking. With that being said, let's take a look at the draft.
(Remember to click the player's name to read what Mocking Dan has to say)
- Vontae Davis - Illinois - 6'0" 203 - Man would I like to have Vontae Davis on the Rams. He's big and a ball hawk. Some think he lacks the ability to work hard but he's got everything else. He's fast, big, and physical. Unfortunately he's not in the Rams plans. He's not the 2nd overall pick and he'll never last long enough to pick in the 2nd round.
- Malcolm Jenkins - Ohio State - 6'1" 201 - Many think Jenkins is actually better than Davis, but a poor showing at the combine which exposed his poor hips causing Deion Sanders to say "He's killing himself", has caused him to slip behind Davis who wowed in the drills. Let's be honest here. So he's dropping 4 or 5 spots in the draft and that's gonna cost him a chunk of change, but it's hardly what Andre Smith did to himself.....that, I would call "killing himself". But both guys are going to get their paper so I'm not too worried about their financial futures. Anyway, he's still a damn good corner, just (again) not one that's going to fall into a spot where the Rams could realistically draft him.
- Darius Butler - Connecticut - 5'10" 183 - Butler is probably the first Cornerback in the draft the Rams can think about picking, but there's a pretty good chance he could go as high as the middle of the first round. There's also speculation he won't make it past the 26th pick (Dolphins at 25 and Ravens at 26). Butler's a solid cornerback who has confidence and a little attitude. He's not going to be the fastest guy playing corner, but he'll make up for it with technique and pure desire.
- D.J. Moore - Vanderbilt - 5'9" 182 - Moore had too setbacks at the combine which might set him back a little in the draft. First, he measured at 5'9" (barely) and then ran a 4.56 40-yard. He's still a great ballhawk who picked off 12 passes in his last two seasons as a Commodore even though no one hardly threw the ball in his direction.
- Alphonso Smith - Wake Forest - 5'9" 193 - While once again not having the height of a number 1 cornerback, Smith makes up for it in swagger (I really hate that term, but I felt compelled to use it for some reason) and pure playmaking ability. He picked off 8 passes last season (21 in his career) for the Deacons and actually talks a better game than he plays. Smith also spent time as a returner so he has those skills which are something the Rams need to consider. Pure athlete who has great quickness, agility, and instincts.
- Sean Smith - Utah - 6'4" 214 - Smith is huge. So, huge in fact that some feel he's better suited to play Safety in the NFL, but no one's really seen any evidence that says he can't play Corner. He's strong, fast, and physical and should be available when the Rams pick in the 2nd round. His biggest negative is that he is extremely raw as a defensive player having started his career as a Wide Receiver. Smith would be a great addition to a Rams secondary who's going to be facing Arizona and Seattle (and their receivers) four times per season.
- Jairus Byrd - Oregon - 6'0" 208 - Byrd has great size, durability, and is great in the physical game. He lacks in overall speed and will get beat by more talented receivers. Is a bit of a ballhawk who recorded 17 interceptions in his career which is one short of the Oregon all-time record.
- Mike Mickens - Cincinnati - 5'11" 182 - After Sean Smith, there might be a bit of a drop-off in regards to cornerbacks but that's fine since it fits more into the Rams draft position this way. Mickens has a couple of things going against him. First, he had knee surgery late last season and ended up having to pull out of the Senior Bowl when that injury flared up on him. Second, he's a little undersized (weight-wise) and would need to put on probably 10 pounds to be ideal. Finally, he's not overly fast and the knee injury could effect that even more. He is agile and quick, but the Rams are going to have to do their homework on him if they consider him a legitimate option with their 3rd pick.
- Captain Munnerlyn - South Carolina - 5'9" 185 - Munnerlyn is small but is extremely fast and is considered a pure cover corner. He was rarely thrown at last season and if he wasn't foregoing his senior season (apparently he's declaring to help his ailing mother) he would have been considered a top Cornerback in next year's draft. There is speculation that he wasn't playing hard last season, but that could have been something that resulted from his mother's health. One positive about him (other than his cover abiltiy and his speed and quickness) is he's not going to turn 21 until April 10.
- Keenan Lewis - Oregon State - 6'1" 197 - Great size and great track record (4 year starter at Oregon State) but after that his attributes start to slip. He's really not considered to be a very good tackler and he's not a great cover man either. He's durable. Might be better suited to play Safety at the next level.
- Mark Parson - Ohio - 5'10" 192 - Parson is actually a very good corner who has "shut down" ability. He suffered a bit by playing at Ohio where no one knew who he really was except for opposing MAC quarterbacks who rarely threw the ball in his direction. Parson had a great Senior Bowl workout where he was considered one of the best defenders on the field excelling in his backpedal, speed, and hands. This is a guy the Rams could possibly target in the 4th round and feel like they have gotten great value.
- Coye Francies - San Jose State - 6'1" 185 - Francies has great height but is a little slight in build. He also has a bit of a checkered past stemming from getting kicked out of Oregon State after being charged with possession of a loaded firearm (charges were dismissed). He played well at San Jose State and impressed at the East-West Shrine Game. Is a good open field tackler and has great instincts and catch-up speed but may be more of a project than the Rams want to take on considering the depth of the their Cornerback unit and the pressance of Tye Hill, Jonathan Wade, and Justin King who are all (still) projects. Why would they bring in another project?
- Asher Allen - Georgia - 5'10" 198 - Allen might be undervalued right now after having an unspectacullar 2008 season (one in which he played with a broken hand) and a not-so-impressive 40 time at the combine (4.48) which he says is the slowest 40 time of his life. Allen has a lot of upside and should be a solid corner in the NFL with greater things a being a possibility.
I'm going to cut the list off here since we're getting into the territory of guys who might have strengths but they also have weaknesses to a point that makes them either future depth guys or higher-risk projects.
Overall, I like the way the position maps out because (after the 1st round) it looks liker there are good options available for the Rams to select a cornerback in rounds 2-4 and not feel like they reached for anyone. I guess to make a prediction on what will happen you have to consider a few things. First, are the Rams going to add a free agent CB? I think they have to. They're just too thin and too inexperienced at the position to think the guys they have on the roster with someone added from the draft is going to be anything but trouble. In my Wide Receiver edition of BBD, I joked that with the way our Receiver corps stood, we'd be eaten alive by pretty much any NFL defensive backfield. Well, our receivers might have some success against our corners but thank goodness for O.J. Atogwe and James Bulter for those two are going to have a major impact on the success of our D-Backfield.
As you might have noticed, I'm advocating for Jason Craft. Was it obvious? Yeah, I know he's not the greatest cornerback, but I think when you look at what's available (and yes I know Ken Lucas is available) I don't see anything better than Craft at the price we could sign him. Plus, Craft is a known commodity. Granted, he might not be known to Spagnuolo or Flajole, but he's known to Billy Devaney and I put a lot of stock into that.
After signing Craft, I'd look to add a cornerback in probably the 4th round. I guess I could justify the 3rd round but that would have to be determined on what the team has added before the draft and what the plan is for 2010. I think there might be a chance the team doesn't add a MLB at all and might try to make-do for a season with what they already have, and then shoot for the moon next year in either the draft or free agency. It's hard to tell. But I do consider Cornerback to be more of a need right now than Middle Linebacker.
So, all things considered, I think I'd look squarely at Captain Munnerlyn in the 4th while keeping my fingers crossed for Sean Smith in the 3rd. I would think if Smith is available when the Rams pick in the 3rd, they'd be hard pressed to pass him up. If he's not, then you almost have to add the best corner back on the board with your 4th pick. Any lower and you're really not adding someone who will be able to contribute right away. Not that Munnerlyn is a lock to start on opening day, but I think he has a chance to find the field and have some sort of impact.
Another guy I'd like to consider with the 4th pick is Mark Parson. In all honesty, I probably like him more than Munnerlyn, but I'm not sure where he's going to fall in the draft. He's probably 2nd round talent that has a chance to fall to the 4th.
So, there you have my take on the Rams Cornerback situation. It's thin, and the team must make an effort to shore it up and build for the future in an off season that makes that extremely difficult.
Remember, this post is not going to be found in the FanPost section, so keep "rec-ing" in which I think will get it into the "Recommended" section. I think this is a topic that needs to be discussed since I don't think many people here are recognizing the state our Cornerback unit is in.
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getting better in the secondary
I think that the best option for the Rams right now to get better against the pass if with a good pass rush. I don’t think we’re going to have a lot of those coverage sacks. Our corners are weak and Butler is not the best covering safety. So I think Spag gotta to find a way to put constant pressure on the QB. Also I really think they are going to draft a DE or a OLB like Cliff Avril last year in the later round. Somebody like Cody Brown from Uconn.
by MathB on Mar 14, 2009 6:36 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
our secondary
well i say the perfect scenario for our corners would be to re sign craft, pick up either lucas, mcalister, or the newest free agent corner…antrelle rolle! and then pick one up in the 4th round. there would be a nice mix of vets and young talent
oh and i also like ricky manning jr…he was solid with the bears and i still think he could produce
anyone agree or disagree?
by rams since day1 on Mar 14, 2009 11:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Antrel Rolle is a free safety and also not a free agent
Samari Rolle is a cornerback and is expected to be a free agent soon.
by JoeyBombs on Mar 14, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha....
my bad i meant samari rolle…my mistake and the ravens have already said they were going to release him
by rams since day1 on Mar 14, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fakquir Brown?
Did you forget him off your list? He didnt play THAT badly last year, maybe the rams can pick him up again for depth in case the new guys dont perform.
by Iwuvrams on Mar 14, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, I really didn't forget him, I just don't think he'll re-sign.
Honestly, I have no idea why I didn’t put him on the list, but since he had to have his arm twisted last year by Haslett to re-sign with the Rams, he’s probably not eager to get back in with the team new coaching staff or not.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
by Tackle Box on Mar 14, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Milus may be a bigger influencer than anyone
This got me thinking, who’s our secondary coach and what kind of influence is he going to have? Turns out Milus was the team’s assistant secondary coach last year, and was one of the few from the Linehan/Haslett regime to be kept on. If he had a good working relationship with Brown, that might help grease the wheels for his return.
Either way, though, you couldn’t blame Fakhir for wanting to test the free agent waters in this environment.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Mar 14, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally.
That’s why I figure he’ll go anywhere else. The only reason he re-signed with the Rams was because of Haslett and probably the biggest reason he signed in the first place was because of Haslett and now Haslett’s been “fired” so after being jerked around by the team, I’d say “see ya later” too.
Too bad for him, if he wants to still play for Haslett hell have to go to Canada or wherever the hell he’s coaching now.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
by Tackle Box on Mar 14, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd round issue
If we go with Jason Smith (OT, Baylor) at #2, do we go MLB or CB in the 2nd? I’d rather go with MLB and then explore CB in rounds 3 or 4, with my favorite deep pick being Jairus Byrd, Sean Smith and Coye Francies.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Mar 14, 2009 12:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd round...
i say we have to go reciever in the second
by rams since day1 on Mar 14, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good thing
that we have no say in this matter ;)
"I always think one step ahead, like a carpenter....the builds stairs"
by sergey606 on Mar 14, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I'd go either.
I think you can get a good corner in the 3rd or 4th round of this draft. Honestly, I’d love to add an impact player at every position but that’s not a reality to think you could accomplish that in one off season. Here’s what I’m thinking (and once again, I reserve the right to change my mind at any time.
Right now I would pick OT in the first round and I prefer Eugene Monroe with the first pick, but I wouldn’t complain with Jason Smith. Then in the 2nd round I’m torn. I had originally wanted to sign someone like Mike Peterson for a year or two but he’s now off the board so this might direct us to the draft. Then again, I have to think if you add a bad ass up front, you could survive the year with the current LB corps and then make the position a priority next off season. So, maybe I’d look for a guy Ron Brace from BC who is a run-stuffin’ stud muffin or even a guy like Evander Hood from MIssouri. Hood struggled a little last season, but was awesome in 2007 and is good at stuffing the run.
Now, if you were dead set on picking a MLB in the 2nd, then I’m not sure who you would pick. You aren’t going to get Curry, Raji, or Laurinaitis, and then I think you’re stretching a little to pick from the next group at the top of the 2nd round which might make you have to wait until the 3rd round for a MLB and could push up receiver to the 2nd round (if you don’t pick DT).
So, rigth now, I’d go OT, DT, and with the 3rd pick I would hold my breath and hope to get CB Sean Smith of Utah. If he’s not available (probably not), I’d have to pick the best available between the Receivers and Corners. Here you could possibly hope to see Brian Robiskie but that’s far from a guarantee. Louis Murphy might fall, but I doubt it. Maybe Iglesias would be there. I do like him. After him, though, I don’t think I’d want to draft any of the remaining WRs in the 3rd.
As for CBs in the 3rd not named Sean Smith, I like Jairus Byrd too. I also like Mike Parson and Captain Munnerlyn but you could probably get those guys in the 4th round.
Basically, I think I’m getting more and more confused, but I’m glad to see people might be realizing that Corner Back deserves much more interest than we’ve been giving it. This isn’t going to be easy, but there are multiple routes the team can take in the draft.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
by Tackle Box on Mar 14, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well put
I’m just worried about the drop off in MLB quality, but that’s an opinionated ranking. I would love to see the Rams’ board of MLBs before the draft.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
by 3k on Mar 14, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rounds 2-4
i say we go receiever in the second im really high on robiskie and i think reciever is our second highest need behind the o line…
then in the third go DT, CB, or LB. we need to go with the best player available at any one of these positions…
But i think we can find a quality corner in the fourth so i would probably be leaning towards LB or DT…
by rams since day1 on Mar 14, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously?
since [Roy Williams] has trouble covering receivers which is kinda an important thing to be able to do when you’re a cornerback
Uh, earth to author: Roy Williams is a STRONG SAFETY, not a cornerback. Its a slightly different position.
by axiomnine on Mar 14, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.
Best answer I can give you is it was late the night I put that list together and for whatever reason, it never occurred to me. Other than that, I really have no excuse. I read this thing a couple of times and never notice it, but I was reading more for grammatical errors and stuff and wasn’t paying attention to the names.
You’re right, I’ll edit the post. Thanks.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
by Tackle Box on Mar 14, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the sound of Sean Smith
Though I like the name “Captain Munnerlyn!” …
If Smith is still there in the third, I think he makes a good project. Honestly, part of 2009 is going to be an extended process of throwing shit against the wall and seeing what sticks … and I like the possibility that a converted WR would have enough ball-hawking instincts and anticipation to potentially have pretty good upside. Also, maybe he can return kicks?
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Mar 14, 2009 9:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two Birds... One Stone
It’s no secret that we need major help at many positions, so what about this scenario?:
Assuming the Lions take Stafford, we draft Curry and trade him to the Browns for their first round pick this year (#5) and their second round pick this year (#36). At five, we take the best OT available, which solves and upgrades the OL.
In round two, we have pick 35 and with that pick, I go WR choosing any one of the big, tall WR that are still available. (Hey-Bey, Britt, Nicks, etc.) At #36, I go corner, hoping Utah corner Sean Smith still available. Smith is big and fast and excels in man-to-man, bump and run coverage.
Here’s why I think this might work: Cleveland has two picks in the second round and from what I’ve read, they are very interested in Curry. Unfortunately for the Browns, KC, who picks third, is also interested in Curry. But by trading with the Rams, Cleveland gets the guy it really wants, still has a pick in the 2nd round and the Rams have the rest of the Draft to concentrate on finding a MLB.
Vic
by victorian on Mar 15, 2009 1:23 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That's an interesting
by Toddius on Mar 15, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a fantastic idea.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
by Tackle Box on Mar 15, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In terms of pure draft pick value, the Rams are losing a little bit on the deal… the #2 overall is worth 2600 points, whereas the #5 + #36 is worth only 2240.
That said, I wouldn’t shoot this down. It is a very creative and realistic proposal, and both teams have the potential of thinking they came out ahead. A particular bonus for the Rams might be the difference in salary they’d have to pay out for their first-rounder, as the slotting usually awards a couple million dollars more to the top three picks. Seeing how tight we are against the cap, this could make a meaningful difference.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Mar 15, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Browns may need the pick and may have to go WR now. They have traded Winslow and Stallworth may be in trouble with the law, so they will need someone to go with Braylon Edwards. I like the idea but that means they would go up 3 spots and give up a high 2nd and they may not be willing to do that. I don’t think Hey -Bey or Nicks are going to be there at # 35 anyway.. If we take a WR at # 35 I think Robiskie will be the guy, and some are saying that Smith can play CB but that he may end up having to move to safety.
by Uncfan1 on Mar 15, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Browns could always sign Torry Holt
I hear he’s available…
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on Mar 15, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CB
I think the CB position is extremly important and I think we have been doing the right moves to sure it up,but I think we need to get a better pass rush and not leave those guys out there to dry. Spags had some good pass rushers in Ny and I think that should be our approach so id say we get a vet in free agency and then address the position around the 4th round .I still think we go Curry and if hes not there then monroe or smith ,then we go receiver .
the west is ours
by jaram on Mar 15, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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!["He [Tye Hill] has pretty much recovered from his knee injury. He had a cyst on his knee he had removed and moved around much better after that. He looked pretty good on the practice field and got almost all of the repetitions with the first team defense. That said and he’d be the first to tell you this if you asked him, he knows he needs to prove himself when the lights come on. This is an important training camp and season for him. Steve Spagnuolo has pulled a lot out of some defensive backs with potential in the past, though. Look what he did for Corey Webster in New York last season."
Nick Wagoner on Tye Hill from his 6/24/09 mailbag at the Rams official site.](http://cdn0.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/57154/319191_small.jpg)












