Gus Frerotte a Ram?
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 12, 2009 2:16 PM CDT
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Well, it looks like QB Gus Frerotte will be coming back to St. Louis to backup Marc Bugler...again. PD columnist Bernie Miklasz posted this tweet in his Twitter feed today:
Rams likey will have a deal with FA QB Gus Frerotte by end of week. His agent is Marvin Demoff. Ram negotiator is Demoff's son Kevin.
It's a backup QB for a team that figures to prominently feature the run and the option, which will be set up by the run - the kind of offense that a backup QB wouldn't drag down too much. Then there's that six-degrees-of-separation thing with Frerotte having played for Brad Childress in Minnesota, the similar offensive scheme Childress and Rams new OC Pat Shurmur picked up in Philly.
It's not the worst move in the world; definitely not the most exciting. His age makes you wonder, though. I suspect QB will be high on the Rams list of priorities next spring.
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Gus ForROTTEN
He was terrible for us two years ago, why is he being brought back
This is pretty much what you're going to see the rest of the off sesaon.
Frerotte is a stop-gap. He showed last year that he is at the very least competent at running an NFL offense. I, like many others, laughed when Minnesota signed him last season thinking he was completely washed up. But I have to say I was a victim of evaluating a QB while trying to play in the Rams offense. Completely unfair and I’ve learned my lesson.
He’s not great and he’s not going to beat out Bulger for the starters job. That’s not what this is about. This signing is all about not worrying about the backup quarterback and I have to figure Devaney worried just as much as the rest of us every time Trent Green took the field. No necessarily about his play, but more specifically about his health.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
Bulger bashers
take note
a victim of evaluating a QB while trying to play in the Rams offense
The Rams offense of the last few years is NOT a fair way to judge players
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 12, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish the Rams
would have taken a look at someone with more upside – like Byron Leftwich. Our backup QB starting some games is extremely likely with Bulger’s fragile injury history.
What do you mean the Rams figure to prominently run the option? I don’t think that’s what you meant to say. The Rams definitely will not be running the option. Neither QB’s skillset matches with such a plan – and neither does the league. The option is a great play…in college football and below.
Leftwich
First, I think he’s going to get a shot at starting for the Jets (or some other team without a starting QB), so if that’s the case there’s no way in hell he’d sign to be the backup in St. Louis.
Secondly, and I’m sure I differ from you and many others, but I don’t think Byron Leftwich has any upside whatsoever. He’s got a big arm (with a huge slow windup) and concrete feet. Plus, he’s almost always injured. He’s only 28 but he moves like he’s 50. I, personally, have no interest in Leftwich.
Btw, good catch on that “option” thing. Yeah, I think (hope?) that was a typo….
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
This goes back to a Devaney comment on Miklasz's show
He said something to the effect of signing a backup QB who “knows his role,” who comes in knowing he’s a backup, not thinking he’s a starter in waiting. He didn’t want to sign a guy to “push” Bulger for the starting spot.
It was clear he wasn’t going to sign a guy like Leftwich, or Jeff Garcia or someone of that ilk.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
Leftwich
wants a little more $$ than Gus. Why put take the cap hit for a backup QB, when they’re better off drafting a future starter in a year or two
by Ryan Van Bibber on Mar 12, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know this
to be the case, but in a foot race b/w Bulger and Leftwich, I would bet Leftwich wins. Bulger has been hurt a fair amount of the time, too.
You might be right about Leftwich not having any upside…that’s just my perception. I haven’t actually seen Leftwich play in quite awhile, and I could be wrong about anything, anyway.
I like that some people have stood by Bulger. I hope that all of you are right and I’m wrong, but I do think that Bulger’s production was part of a problem and not just incidental to all the bad players around him. The Rams were a bad team last year, but that includes Bulger’s play. Watching the Jets game last year was one of my low points as a fan. I don’t think Bulger made the throws he needed to make when he did have time. I agree that the line was bad. The receivers were probably bad, too, but I didn’t see him getting the ball to them very often anyway.
Back Up QB
Man I would have went for an Anthony Wright (GO USC) he’s better than Gus I mean he flat blew a game hitting Ike Bruce in the foot when he was wide open Leftwich looks 129 Bulgar is tough but man I hope he doesn’t get hurt. Does anyone have Tony Banks number.
Are you kiddin me?
What’s the matter with old QB? It’s not like they were any good in the past season. I hope they draft one this year.
Too much money
with the rate at which CB’s are going right now, I don’t think we can afford it. We have already addressed our CB need, and there are plenty more needs that we need to cover. $$$ needs to be spread around the whole team.
Yeah. he's by far the best CB on the market right now.
He’ll probably price himself out of what the Rams can/want to spend right now.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
Leigh Bodden sign for a very cheap price and he is young. I don’t think a veteran corner would be very costly.
Patriots special
Bodden turned down a 4y/16M deal from the Pats in favor of that very cheap one year deal (with the pats). He’s clearly taking a gamble that he can make a big payday next year after spending a year in the Pats system. As such, I don’t think he reflects the CB market very well, particularly for veterans.
by brackenthebox on Mar 13, 2009 5:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Gus flopped for us in 2007 - think he's improved with age?
Marc Bulger is never going to have any real competition as long as it’s the Greens or Frerottes of the world. And, I have to laugh when I hear we’re becoming a “run” oriented offense. uh-huh, with one, and only one, credible RB who frequently misses a quarter of the season or more. And, let’s not forget our still suspect O-Line. Plus, why would you pay Bulger $65 million to play in a “run” oriented offense? The odds are his backup QB will have to play a few games after his ribs or shoulder gets hurt or he’s benched for a couple games. After a few good moves, bringing back Frerotte looks a lot like Linehan thinking.
I'd rather have Frerotte playing in those games
than Trent Green.
And. fwiw, it’s not the point of the season this year to have a quarterback competition. It’s not going to happen with the state of the roster the way it is. It’s just not. Bulger’s not going to be cut. He makes too much money and they have to see if they can fix what has been screwed up.
If you think Bulger’s being paid too much to be our quarterback, I have to think you’d think he’d be paid too much to be our backup quarterback, right? If this were 2010, then I’d agree with you to an extent but not this year. There’s no option to replace him with if you still want to work at fixing the rest of the team. Plus, I’m not exactly enamored by the guys available in the draft either, so I’m having a hard time figuring out who it is you want the team to acquire to have this “competition” with Bulger.
And as far as Gus improving with age. Well, he was better in 2008 than he was in 2007 so I guess it is reasonable to expect him to have improved.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
more on Gus and Bulger
Frerotte is better than Green, I’ll give you that much. The Vikings are also about an order of magnitude better team than the Rams too. But, there’s a guy named Leftwich out there in free agency who used to be pretty good. And, not long ago, a young guy named Cassel was traded for a 2nd round pick. Another QB you probably heard of; “Kurt Warner” would probably have loved to end his career with the Rams who couldn’t afford him because of the big $$$ due Bulger, Pace (now cut) and Holt (soon to be cut).
Warner was released for the same reasons people are down on Bulger
Bulger didn’t get paid until Warner was long gone.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
Bulger's
arm strength has never been that good. What made him a good QB was the fact that he got rid of the ball quickly and was an accurate passer. Last season, I didn’t see either of those things.
I think it’s hard to say whether it was just the team being that bad or if Bulger was a big part of how bad they were. I don’t know how to measure it, but it’s hard for me to let Bulger off the hook.
I didn't say they were the same quarterback.
I said Warner was released for the same reasons why people complain about Bulger. That being his ruined pocket pressence and happy feet. But one other thing about Warner was he was hurt a lot the last couple of years and he fumbled a ton (probably due to his hand injuries).
How quickly we forget.
Getting two tickets to an execution is like getting two tickets to NASCAR, except you KNOW Jeff Gordon's gonna die.
not
Exactly what i would say is a good thing but not really bad lets just hope that he doesnt need to start games and could help in molding are younger Qb
the west is ours
please not gus!
I remember when the RAMS signed Gus the first time and all the hype that surrounded the pick up. ESPN’s NFL live even was trying to sell the fact that the rams had the best 1 and 2 qb combo. Boy were they wrong! The only things they do good is throwing interceptions, getting sacked, and getting injured. Both of them are way past they’re prime and both need to stop stealing money from the rams!! Its time to start thinking about the future…. Denver coach doesnt want Jay Cutler. Give them the #2 pick,Bulger,and one of are many bust we have drafted over the past 3 years and another draft pick. The Browns dont want Anderson or Quinn, Leftwich is still a free agent, I am a huge dog lover and would even rather see m vick in a jersey before gus and bulger.
here are my 2 cents
yup, there they are. just laying there, abe lincoln is staring at you from the side, like, what?
oh yea, and i really don’t care about this topic. and i’m too damn lazy/drunk to look at the contract, if there’s one, to see if they signed him for a longer (more than a year deal), cause that’d be dumb, next years’ draft they can just take a QB in the mid rounds, hell, they can do that this year, oh well, no one is reading, screw it. go rams!
"I always think one step ahead, like a carpenter....the builds stairs"
DONT DO IT!
ferret? c’mon…… all this progress, just to take a step backward? what? draft some mid round talent. if you look at the UFA list of QBs there are at least four other QBs that are more appealing than the ferret
by tripledouble_1 on Mar 13, 2009 11:02 AM CDT reply actions
My guess?
They sign him for 2 years to be the mentor to our 1st round QB draft pick in 2010 while Bulger plays his way out of the starting lineup.
Jay Zygmunt, now that you have fired yourself, please have yourself hired by Seattle. Thanks.
Good for now
I could think of no reason why any top tier quarterbacks would want to play for the Rams. Frerotte would make a good backup for Bulger the next couple of years while they develop a future replacement. Bulge’s contract clearly implies he won’t be gong any ware the next two years unless he is taken out on a stretcher. A very good possibility with the current o-line they have now. Reason number two why most quarterbacks won’t come here. May have to look hard at quarterback with 2nd pick.
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